Survivors & Bereaved Vs the State

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Survivors & Bereaved Vs the State

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08 Mar 2006, 23:49 #1

From the man that brought the tale of carriage 346a.
Families set to sue over 7/7 errors

Victims' lawyers claim that Tube bombers were allowed to slip through the security net

Mark Townsend, legal affairs correspondent
Sunday March 5, 2006
The Observer



Families of the 7 July bombing victims are preparing to sue over intelligence failings that allowed the suicide bombers to launch their attacks on London.

City law firms representing them have disclosed that they are exploring legal action in the light of growing evidence that the atrocities might have been preventable had there not been crucial mistakes in intelligence in the run-up to the bombing explosions.

Sources at law firm Lovells said that if it was proved that the bombings were preventable, the government could face a costly negligence claim from families of the 52 people who were killed, as well as the 700 injured. Two of the bombers were placed under surveillance by MI5 16 months before the attacks, including ringleader Mohammad Sidique Khan, but were judged not to have been a threat.

This development comes amid mounting disquiet over the government's decision to refuse a public inquiry into the bombings and instead publish a 'narrative of events' compiled by a senior civil servant. Although the narrative is based on evidence uncovered by police and MI5, there is no date set for publication and its terms of reference remain vague.

Yasmin Waljee, pro bono manager of Lovells, said whether the attacks could have been avoided could become a legal issue, depending on what the narrative revealed.

'It remains a possibility,' she said. 'Clients quite clearly want answers and if there are gaps in the narrative they may well do something about it, but there will have to be obvious [intelligence] gaps.'

Scotland Yard and MI5 already face questions over whether the public was misled in the weeks following 7 July. At the time, Home Secretary Charles Clarke said the attacks came 'out of the blue', amid initial claims that the four bombers were 'clean skins' and unknown to intelligence officers. There is also concern among MI5 officials that details of what the security services knew about the suspects before the attacks may have been withheld from the public by ministers.

It has also emerged that lawyers representing relatives of the victims are looking to launch a judicial review of the government's decision not to hold a public inquiry. If the government's narrative does not fully address concerns over intelligence mistakes, lawyers believe the legal case for a public inquiry will be compelling. 'Some clients are very, very concerned about the fact that they haven't had a public inquiry and there are strong legal issues,' said Waljee.

Tony Blair ruled out an inquiry, arguing that it would distract the security services from fighting terrorism. At least one other major City law firm is exploring whether to challenge the government over this decision.

There is fresh concern, too, over the government's handling of compensation payouts for British terror victims. Lawyers are furious that the Home Office has ruled out awarding loss of earnings to victims while also appearing to contradict Blair's earlier promise to compensate British citizens caught up in terrorist attacks abroad.

Lawyers representing victims of the 7 July bombings and those involved in overseas attacks such as last summer's bombings in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh have condemned the government's handling of the issue as 'ludicrous.' The consultation period to reform the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority following complaints about its performance after July's attacks closed last week.

Source: The Observer
So the legal approach is to focus on intelligence failures that effectively allowed July 7th to happen and still hangs entirely on the notion of British suicide bombers in London. The problem with this, as mentioned in the article is, "'if there are gaps in the narrative they may well do something about it, but there will have to be obvious [intelligence] gaps.'" If no gaps exist in intelligence about British suicide bombers in London, there endeth the story.

To quote something else from the article, "Ludicrous!"
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

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23 May 2006, 14:53 #2

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5006922.stm
7 July inquiry talks 'productive'

Survivors of the 7 July London bombings say they have had "productive" talks with the home secretary on holding some form of public inquiry.

The survivors urged John Reid to hold a 9/11-style inquiry into why and how the attacks happened.

The government has so far resisted calls for a public inquiry.

But Rachel North, who was caught up in the blast near King's Cross, said there had been a "willingness" to listen and co-operate during the two-hour meeting.

Monday's talks came as the government pledged an extra £2.5m in compensation for those injured or bereaved by the attacks.

Ms North said Mr Reid had been adamant he did not want a "seven-year thing" along the lines of Northern Ireland's Bloody Sunday inquiry.

However, she said the survivors wanted a new style of inquiry suited to the "post-7 July world", modelled on that held in the US into the 11 September attacks.


It would look at social issues and foreign policy to establish why the bombings took place, she said.

She said those caught up in the London bombings, in which 52 people died and hundreds were injured, would "keep pushing" to find out why, and not just how, the attacks took place.

"The home secretary has said he's happy to keep engaging. He was very generous with his time," she added.

Peter Zimonjic, who was injured in the Edgware Road bomb, said: "We are hopeful but we'll have to wait and see.

"We started the meeting a way apart, and now we're a little closer."

The meeting was the first time Mr Reid had come face-to-face with survivors of the bombs as home secretary.

Earlier, a Home Office spokeswoman said about 500 victims of the bombings had so far made claims to the government's criminal injuries compensation scheme, with payouts ranging from £1,000 to £118,000, and totalling more than £2m.

The promise of a further £2.5m in compensation contrasts with the stance taken by previous Home Secretary Charles Clarke, who rejected calls for extra compensation payments for the victims of the attacks.
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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09 Jun 2006, 11:13 #3

Prince Charles opens home to July 7 victims

Sandra Laville
Thursday June 8, 2006
The Guardian

Families of those killed in the July 7 London bombings, together with the most seriously injured of the survivors, are to attend a private reception hosted by Prince Charles next week in the grounds of Highgrove House.

More than 200 people whose lives have been touched by terrorism have been invited to join the prince and the Duchess of Cornwall at an event arranged by him to show his support, and allow those involved to meet again before the official events of the anniversary.

Among the guests are those still struggling to rebuild their lives, fight for compensation and come to terms with what they lost when the four suicide bombers attacked tube trains and a No 30 bus last year, killing 52 people and injuring 700.

Danny Biddle, 27, who is still in hospital, is invited, along with Garri Holness, who lost a leg, Martine Wright, who lost both legs below the knee, and Andy Brown, who lost both legs.

Kim Beer, whose son Phil, a 22-year-old hairdresser, was killed as the tube train he was on approached Russell Square said that she was touched that the prince had taken such a personal interest in those affected by the bombings.

"He is the only one that put himself out for everyone," she said. "When my son first died he wrote to us, to every single family that had had someone die. He wrote personally and it was very touching. It is a difficult time coming up for us all. The actual anniversary is going to be very difficult."

Mr Beer lived in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, and was on his way to his work when he was killed. The decision to hold the event on Monday at Highgrove, the prince's private residence in Gloucestershire, was taken by Prince Charles personally.

"He wanted to show support and sympathy for the families," said a source. "He and the duchess will introduce themselves to the families and offer their hospitality at what we hope will be an enjoyable event."

As well as July 7 victims, there will be other groups of relatives who have been affected by terrorism, some of those involved in the Sharm el-Sheikh bombings on July 23 last year, in which at least 64 people were killed, and the Doha bombing in March last year. The prince has previously hosted private receptions for relatives of those killed in Bali and in the September 11 attacks.
Guardian 8/6/06
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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18 Jun 2006, 10:59 #4

THE QUEEN WILL MAKE A DONATION TO THE LONDON BOMBINGS RELIEF CHARITY FUND

12 July 2005

THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS ISSUED BY THE PRESS SECRETARY TO THE QUEEN

The Queen recognises that the aftermath of the terrorist bombings will lead to financial hardship, and she has therefore made a substantial donation to the London Bombings Relief Charitable Fund.

Her Majesty hopes that her donation, along with donations from others, will go some way in helping the victims and their families to cope with the aftermath of the attacks which took place in London on 7 July 2005.

Background
Following the bomb blasts in London on 7 July 2005, various members of the Royal Family have visited London transport staff and workers from the emergency services to thank them for their work.

The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall visited St Mary's Hospital in Paddington the day after the attacks. The Queen met staff at the Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel on the same day. Read The Queen's speech at the Royal London Hospital.

The Duke of York visited Transport for London staff and the Metropolitan Police at CentreComm, the London Buses Command and Control Complex in Buckingham Palace Road on 8 July 2005.

The Earl of Wessex visited the London Control Centre of the British Transport Police and the London Underground to speak to staff about their experiences and their work in the aftermath of the attacks on 9 July 2005.

The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester went to Chelsea and Westminster Hospital to meet staff dealing with victims sent there for specialist treatment.

The Princess Royal visited University College Hospital on Gower Street on 11 July 2005. The Hospital was treating 14 victims of the attack, five of whom were in the intensive care unit.

Her Royal Highness thanked Accident and Emergency staff and met victims of the blast who were being treated in the Intensive Care Unit at the hospital. The Princess Royal then signed the condolence book at City Hall.[

Source: British Monarchy Media Centre
The fund had raised and distributed seven million in the seven months after 7/7 and £3 million was received in the first week after the bombings, with 'The Queen' donating money on 12th July so, presumably, this figure of £3M includes the donation from 'The Queen' but, how much did she contribute of the £3M collated in a week?

Also, anyone got any thoughts on the 7/7 Memorial Service that took place on 1/11/2005?
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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18 Jun 2006, 13:55 #5

77 Survivors To Be Screened (from This Is Local London)
By Andrew Westbrook

Survivors of the July 7 London bombings are being urged to seek help with coping with the trauma of experiencing the terror attacks.

The NHS believes more than 1,000 people have been affected by Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) or other psychological conditions as a result of the bombings, but that many people have not yet been screened to assess their condition, which experts say could be triggered by the upcoming anniversary.

To date 516 people have been screened, of which 178 (34 per cent), required psychological help.

Symptoms for PTSD, also referred to as shellshock, after first coming to prominence after the First World War, usually develop immediately or within months, but have been known to begin years later.
continued...

Professor Ian Robbins, an expert in PTSD at South West London and St George's Mental Health NHS Trust, said: "It's been estimated around 30 per cent of those involved will develop problems but unless you alert people to what is available only half of those affected will seek help.

"Those injured are often so busy dealing with physical injuries that their psychological problems are pushed to the back. And those working in the emergency services, who often experience problems early on, are the last to seek help."

Dr Peter Scragg, chartered clinical psychologist at the screening team, said: "There are many reasons why people may not have sought help, including people thinking they would get better naturally with time, being unaware of the symptoms of PTSD or other conditions and also the fear of the stigma people attribute to therapy.

"We want to screen as many people as possible who may be emotionally affected by the bombings to offer them advice or support especially with the extensive media coverage expected over the next few weeks as the anniversary approaches."
Mr Livingstone said: The Mayor said: "People showed incredible generosity following the attacks on London on July 7 and the way that organisations and their staff involved in setting up, managing and supporting the fund is an outstanding achievement.

"It also reflects how so many people from all walks of life worked tirelessly together to help to relieve the suffering both on and after July 7.

"I am also pleased that the London Bombings Relief Charitable Fund has been able to set some important standards for disaster relief fundraising which can be referred to in future to ensure that whenever help is needed the support is targeted and delivered quickly to victims.

6:31am today

Source: TiLL
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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24 Jun 2006, 10:51 #6

The round-up continues. From a July 7th related blog:
(1 ) if you want to find fellow passengers and you were on the Piccadilly train, please email kingscrossunited@yahoo.co.uk and someone from the group will get in touch. If you work in media and have a specific kings cross united press enquiry, you can email the group moderators at this address too (above).

(2) If you feel you would like to talk to someone about the London bombings, you can contact 7 July Assistance Centre, on 0845 054 7444 which is there for anyone affected by the day and provides free support services. They can help if you were a survivor from one of the other bombs and put you in contact with other survivors.

(3) If you are a journalist and have
a generic 7/7 survivor enquiry
a 'survivors asking for an independent inquiry' question
or even a 'Rachel North' question,

please email RachelNorthLondon AT googlemail.com and I'll send you the email and phone number of the PR firm who have offered free press officer support for the next few weeks and are helping out with all survivor enquiries.

(4) If you were on any of the trains and you want to join the campaign for an independent enquiry into the London bombs, ( which is a separate thing to non-campaigning, non-political support group Kings Cross United) you can get in contact with us at the first instance via RachelNorthLondon AT googlemail.com as well.

(5) If you'd like to show your support the campaign for an independent inquiry into the London bombings, you can sign the petition here or write to your MP here.

Cheers. Hope that helps clarify things

Rachel
Point 4 is the most notable of the lot as it appeals for anyone 'on any of the trains' to come forward and omits entirely to mention that there may be survivors from the number 30 bus explosion that occurred in Tavistock Square almost an hour after the Underground incidents.

This error/ommission was brought to the attention of the blog administrator via a comment from Bridget that was not allowed through the site administrator's comment moderation. The original article, as quoted above, however, has since been changed.

It's only subliminal if you don't notice it....
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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24 Jun 2006, 13:13 #7

I left this comment on the above quoted blog:
Rachel you said:

"If you were on any of the trains and you want to join the campaign for an independent enquiry into the London bombs, ( which is a separate thing to non-campaigning, non-political support group Kings Cross United) you can get in contact with us"

.... who do the people that were on the bus (and absent from the July 7 Review Committee Report) contact?
The lady then changed her blog post to this:
(4)[ If you were directly affected by the 7/7 bombings and you want to join the campaign for an independent enquiry into the London bombs, ( which is a separate thing to non-campaigning, non-political support group Kings Cross United) you can get in contact with us at the first instance via RachelNorthLondon AT googlemail.com as well.
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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