Letters to GLA 7/7 Review Committee

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Letters to GLA 7/7 Review Committee

Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

15 Aug 2007, 09:56 #1

Dear Ms Hughes and members of the 7/7 Review Committee

The July 7th Truth Campaign has been scrutinising the reports published
by the GLA 7/7 Review Committee and would like to raise the following
concerns and comments:

Body Holding Area

Prior to the setting-up of the Resilience Mortuary in the grounds of the
HAC, the deceased were taken to two hotels in Bloomsbury. The Royal
London and the Hilton according to this MPS press statement:

http://www.met.police.uk/news/terrorist ... ponse3.htm

I quote the guidelines on setting up a Body Holding Area from the UK
Resilience website:

        Body Holding

        3.15 To ensure appropriate quality control measures it will be
        necessary to establish a disaster victim or body holding area
        close to the scene. Experience has shown that it is best located
        near to the cordon control point ideally straddling the inner
        cordon line. Inflatable structures have been used with success
        in the past.

        3.16 A disaster victim holding area must not be confused with a
        temporary mortuary. The body holding area is a secure, private
        location where victims and human remains that have been
        recovered from the site can be temporarily held prior to
        transfer to a mortuary – temporary or otherwise. The disaster
        victim holding area acts as a quality control point for victim
        labels and other accompanying documentation. Identification of
        victims will not take place in the holding area.

        3.17 The disaster victim holding area will be staffed by a
        police documentation officer with other appropriate support
        appointed by the scene evidence recovery manager. The staff in
        this area will maintain a written log of all victims and remains
        recovered from the site ensuring that these are placed in a
        suitable order for transfer to the mortuary. All movements will
        be carefully recorded to maintain an audit trail for the whole
        process.

        3.18 Prolonged storage of victims is not appropriate at a
        disaster victim holding area and appropriate arrangements must
        be made to ensure minimal delay in transmission to the mortuary.
        It will be important to ensure that this facility is located
        with due sensitivity to privacy, for example whether it can be
        viewed from any media vantage points.

No examination of this procedure has been carried out as far as we can
ascertain. The Home Office Report, Looking Back Moving Forward, fails to
examine this as does the GLA 7/7 Review Committee.

Crucially, there has been no examination and explanation of:

1 How these two hotels were identified as temporary facilities

2 How bodies were transported there

3 Who took the bodies there

4 How this information was relayed

5 How the site the body was taken from was identified

6 Where exactly the bodies were held

7 Who took responsibility for them once they were there

8 Which bodies were taken to which hotel

9 As only two hotels were used, how were the bodies from each of the 4
sites kept separate, if indeed they were

10 Who transported the bodies from these hotels to the Resilience
Mortuary and how

11 Whether there was opportunity for these bodies to be mixed-up and the
sites they were retrieved from misidentified

12 How were the police logs kept by the police documentation officers at
each site

13 On what basis was this crucial aspect of the emergency response and
the communications inherent within such procedure not examined by the
GLA review committee.

14  Who took the decision not to examine this aspect of the events that
day

All the above are a worrying ommission from any of the scrutinies
carried out so far into both the events of this day and the examination
of the Resilience Plans which have since taken place.

One other point that came to our attention when examining these events:

Piccadilly Line 311

The GLA 7/7 Review Committee reports refer to the Piccadilly Line train
as train 311. Where was this information obtained? The train number was
changed on 10/7/05 to train 331, yet this is not the number it is
referred to in your scrutiny.

Regards

The July 7th Truth Campaign
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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The Antagonist
Joined: 25 Nov 2005, 11:41

15 Aug 2007, 13:02 #2

Nice one, Bridget. There's also this minor point about the legitimacy of process that placed the mortuary at the Honourable Artillery Company. The HAC are seeking compensation for the inconvenience:
Peter Rogers, Chief Executive Officer, Westminster City Council
At 1655 hrs on 7 July HAC [see below] was chosen as the site of the temporary London mortuary. Westminster City Council (WCC) was chosen as the lead authority. The mortuary was located in the extreme south of the London Borough of Islington. The site was not approved in advance and the owners demanded compensation for lost income. Hence, commercial arrangements and contracts need to be in place beforehand.
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

11 Sep 2007, 15:30 #3

I re-sent the original request to all the members of the 7/7 GLA Review Committee (and included Ken) and received this reply:
Dear 7th July Truth Campaign

Thank you for your enquiry and apologies or the delay in responding.

The issue you highlight about the body holding area was not, as you say,
looked into by the 7 July Review Committee as it was not within its
terms of reference of looking at communications issues and the emergency
response to the attacks.  We therefore do not hold any information
relevant to your questions on this issue.  I would recommend that you
direct your queries to the London Resilience Team
(www.londonprepared.gov.uk).

The number of the train on the Piccadilly Line train reported in the
Committee's report was taken from information provided and obtained
during the course of the review.  However the Committee does not hold
first-hand information on this question - I would recommend you approach
the Metropolitan Police Service or Transport for London to ask for this
information.

Kind regards

Janet Hughes
A rather strange response, given the scrutiny of the Resilience Mortuary that was carried out during the review. I'll send the same FOI request to the London Resilience Team.
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

11 Sep 2007, 17:28 #4

Bridget @ Sep 11 2007, 04:30 PM wrote: I re-sent the original request to all the members of the 7/7 GLA Review Committee (and included Ken) and received this reply:
Dear 7th July Truth Campaign

Thank you for your enquiry and apologies or the delay in responding.

The issue you highlight about the body holding area was not, as you say,
looked into by the 7 July Review Committee as it was not within its
terms of reference of looking at communications issues and the emergency
response to the attacks.  We therefore do not hold any information
relevant to your questions on this issue.  I would recommend that you
direct your queries to the London Resilience Team
(www.londonprepared.gov.uk).

The number of the train on the Piccadilly Line train reported in the
Committee's report was taken from information provided and obtained
during the course of the review.  However the Committee does not hold
first-hand information on this question - I would recommend you approach
the Metropolitan Police Service or Transport for London to ask for this
information.

Kind regards

Janet Hughes
A rather strange response, given the scrutiny of the Resilience Mortuary that was carried out during the review. I'll send the same FOI request to the London Resilience Team.
Dear Ms Hughes and members of the 7/7 Review Committee

Thank you for this reply.

We are aware that the 7/7 Review Committee did in fact examine the
communications issues and emergency response in regard to the Resilience
Mortuary. Given that the initial stage of that response was the
communications inherent in the setting up and maintenance of the Body
Holding Area, do you agree that this was a related issue and one that
required examination and scrutiny and therefore came under the same
terms of reference?

We will direct our query to the London Resilience Team,

Regards

J7 Truth Campaign
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

18 Sep 2007, 16:29 #5

^ see above.

This is the reply from the London Resilience Team, the people responsible for the emergency plans:
Thank you for your email to the London Resilience Team

We have looked at all your questions and these refer to operational matters on the 7/7 July and  therefore would be dealt with by the Metropolitan Police Service. Your email has been forwarded onto them for comment.
 

Arthur Fleming
GLA/LRT Liaison and Communications Manager
London Resilience Team
Riverwalk House
157-161 Millbank
London
SW1P 4RR

Tel: 020 7217 3228
Fax: 020 7217 3405
Web: www.londonprepared.gov.uk
Email: arthur.fleming@gol.gsi.gov.uk
Government Office for London - Representing Central Government across the Capital
http://www.gos.gov.uk/gol/
I might have another go at this, as the Looking Back Moving Forward document that they produced went into the detail of setting up the Resilience Mortuary (as did the GLA 7/7 Review Committee), so I wonder why they're all so coy about the BHA?
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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whatsacubit
Joined: 11 Mar 2007, 16:08

20 Sep 2007, 20:08 #6

The Antagonist @ Aug 15 2007, 02:02 PM wrote:Nice one, Bridget.  There's also this minor point about the legitimacy of process that placed the mortuary at the Honourable Artillery Company.  The HAC are seeking compensation for the inconvenience:
Peter Rogers, Chief Executive Officer, Westminster City Council
At 1655 hrs on 7 July HAC [see below] was chosen as the site of the temporary London mortuary. Westminster City Council (WCC) was chosen as the lead authority. The mortuary was located in the extreme south of the London Borough of Islington. The site was not approved in advance and the owners demanded compensation for lost income. Hence, commercial arrangements and contracts need to be in place beforehand.
This link in the above always leads to a "menu has been disabled" screen:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh ... wtopic=218

Can it be fixed, or is it my PC behaving the way it often does?
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amirrortotheenemy
Joined: 06 Nov 2006, 17:39

20 Sep 2007, 20:18 #7

whatsacubit @ Sep 20 2007, 09:08 PM wrote:
The Antagonist @ Aug 15 2007, 02:02 PM wrote:Nice one, Bridget.  There's also this minor point about the legitimacy of process that placed the mortuary at the Honourable Artillery Company.  The HAC are seeking compensation for the inconvenience:
Peter Rogers, Chief Executive Officer, Westminster City Council
At 1655 hrs on 7 July HAC [see below] was chosen as the site of the temporary London mortuary. Westminster City Council (WCC) was chosen as the lead authority. The mortuary was located in the extreme south of the London Borough of Islington. The site was not approved in advance and the owners demanded compensation for lost income. Hence, commercial arrangements and contracts need to be in place beforehand.
This link in the above always leads to a "menu has been disabled" screen:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh ... wtopic=218

Can it be fixed, or is it my PC behaving the way it often does?
Hi whatsacubit,

the following is the correct link to what you were looking for: http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh ... topic=2181
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