FOIA Request To The Met

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FOIA Request To The Met

Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

26 Mar 2006, 15:06 #1

On March 26th I sent the following FOIA request to the Metropolitan Police:

1. Why does the police website still show that the explosion on the Piccadilly Line train on 7th July 2005 happened by the first set of double doors on carriage one?

2. What was the number of the train and carriage of the Piccadilly Line train that the explosion happened on on 7th July 2005?

3. The police website states that two trains were involved in the incident on 7th July 2005 at Edgware Road, when the blast tore through a tunnel wall into a train on an adjoining platform. Was anyone injured or killed in this other train?

4. Have details of the type of explosives and detonators used in the 4 incidents on 7th July been officially released?

5. Was a second controlled explosion carried out on a device found on the Number 30 bus in Tavistock Square on 7th July 2005?

I will post their response as soon as I receive it.

http://www.met.police.uk/information/metric/index.htm
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

26 Mar 2006, 19:06 #2

On March 26th I sent the following FOIA request to the BTP:
From The Guardian 10/7/05:

Andy Trotter

Deputy chief constable, British Transport Police.

'I was in the British Transport Police HQ in Tavistock Square when the first information came through at 9am. I immediately dispatched senior officers to the scene, then watched, horrified, as the tale unfolded in front of us.

'Within minutes, the casualties from Russell Squre tube began arriving at our HQ. When the bus exploded, the whole building started rocking and debris began falling all around us. My first thought was to put extra security on our front door because the terrorists could try to gain access to the building by coming in with the injured. My children began texting me but I couldn't make a personal call to my wife until late afternoon: I didn't have a second to spare.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondo ... 30,00.html

Why were casualties brought to the BTP HQ and not taken to hospital?

In fact, I have read no survivor or witness reports that have stated that they were taken to BTP HQ and I wonder why that is?

Could you say why they were brought and how many,

Thank You

Ms Bridget Dunne
http://www.btp.police.uk/foi.htm
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

27 Mar 2006, 09:40 #3

BTP reply on 27/3/06 to my FOI request (see above)
Dear Ms Dunne

In respect of your request I can supply the following information. 

Nine person were brought to the British Transport Police HQ and were either suffering from shock and/or very minor injuries which did not require hospital attention.  If they had required hospital treatment that would have been arranged. 

They were brought to BTP’s HQ as it was a secure location, bearing in mind that very quickly the whole area was cordoned off, making it very difficult for anybody to leave the area, particularly as all bus and underground services had been suspended.

BTP cannot state why you have read no survivor or witness reports stating they were taken to BTP’s HQ.  What is reported is obviously outside of BTP’s control.

If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me.

Brian Coleman

Freedom of Information manager
To which I sent the following:
Dear Mr Coleman

Thank you for the prompt reply to my FOI request.

The original report from Andy Trotter was:

'I was in the British Transport Police HQ in Tavistock Square when the first information came through at 9am. I immediately dispatched senior officers to the scene, then watched, horrified, as the tale unfolded in front of us.

'Within minutes, the casualties from Russell Squre tube began arriving at our HQ. When the bus exploded, the whole building started rocking and debris began falling all around us. My first thought was to put extra security on our front door because the terrorists could try to gain access to the building by coming in with the injured.

Could you please tell me:

1. What was the infromation received at 9 am?

2. What time did the injured arrive at BTP HQ?

3. At what time was the whole area cordoned off?

4. Were any of the injured brought to the BTP HQ from the bus?

Regards

Ms Bridget Dunne
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

27 Mar 2006, 10:37 #4

Were the questions a bit nearer to the bone: (see above)
Dear Ms Dunne

In respect of your request for:

1. What was the information received at 9 am?


2. What time did the injured arrive at BTP HQ?


3. At what time was the whole area cordoned off?


4. Were any of the injured brought to the BTP HQ from the bus?

BTP will deal with your request within 20 working days.  If it is likely that BTP will not be able to answer you request within that time you will be advised of the new date. 

However, in respect of question 3 the cordons were put in place by the Metropolitan Police Service, consequently BTP do not hold this information as prescribed by the Freedom of Information Act and are unable to answer this question.  To request this information from the MPS you can find their request form at http://www.met.police.uk/information/metric/index.htm .

Brian Coleman
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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numeral
Joined: 04 Dec 2005, 17:55

16 Sep 2006, 19:14 #5

I am about to send this FOIA request to the Met:

For what Thameslink services leaving Luton for London on July 7th 2005 between 7am and 8am does the MPS possess CCTV records from inside the trains?

Comments appreciated.
Follow the numbers.
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Bridget
Joined: 26 Nov 2005, 01:46

16 Sep 2006, 19:31 #6

[quote=""numeral""]  I am about to send this FOIA request to the Met:

For what Thameslink services leaving Luton for London on July 7th 2005 between 7am and 8am does the MPS possess CCTV records from inside the trains?

Comments appreciated.[/quote]
I did contact Thameslink about CCTV in trains, of course they never replied. But during my own journeys on the same line I am not aware of any CCTV, although that doesn't mean they're not there of course.

Good luck with DC Neil Smith btw after Ludicrous Diversion he might find a few more FOI requests land on his desk.
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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numeral
Joined: 04 Dec 2005, 17:55

16 Sep 2006, 19:40 #7

Thanks, Bridget, I have sent it. The next one is to ask what CCTV they have from Luton Station platforms. Not asking for it to be released, just whether they possess it or not.
Follow the numbers.
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