Accused: Adel Yahya AHMED

Superficially, at least, the similarities between the events of 7th July and 21st July were frightening. But, on the 21st, the 'bombers' had no bombs (i.e. no secondary explosives), just detonators and their intention was only to 'scare people' as part of a 'demonstrative act': "The jury were told a further charge of conspiracy to cause explosions likely to endanger life, faced by each man, was now being left off the indictment." - BBC

Accused: Adel Yahya AHMED

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Oct 18 2006, 03:04 PM #1

Accused: Adel Yahya AHMED

Adel Yahya AHMED is one of the accused in the events of 21st July 2005

He is accused of:
CONSPIRACY TO CAUSE EXPLOSIONS LIKELY TO ENDANGER LIFE OR CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY TO PROPERTY, contrary to Section 3(1)(a) of the Explosive Substances Act 1883 (From http://www.met.police.uk/vivace/index.htm )


Adel Yahya AHMED was arrested on 20th December 2005. See the following 2 reports:


From this Daily Telegarph report here
Man held over July 21 attempted bombings
(Filed: 20/12/2005)


Anti-terror police have arrested a 23-year-old man in connection with the attempted London bomb attacks on July 21.

The man, from Tottenham, north London, was held at 5am this morning as he arrived at Gatwick Airport from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

He was held on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2000.

The man was arrested in a low-key operation by unarmed officers from Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch, supported by Sussex Police.

He is suspected of providing logistical support to those alleged to have been involved in the July 21 bombing attempt.

It is believed he had been out of the country since June [2005]

Another report by the BBC on 22nd December 2005 is HERE

Man charged over 21 July attacks 

Shepherd's Bush was one of the targeted stations
Police investigating the failed 21 July London bomb attacks have charged a man with conspiracy to cause explosions.

Adel Yahya, 23, was arrested at Gatwick Airport on Tuesday, after arriving on a flight from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

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Scotland Yard said it believed he had been out of the UK since June.

As well as the five other men already charged with direct involvement in the alleged 21 July plot, 10 others face lesser charges including failing to disclose information about suspects and assisting them to evade arrest.

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So Mr. Adel Yahya AHMED was out of the country from June 2005 until December 2005, yet he is still up for CONSPIRACY TO CAUSE EXPLOSIONS on 21st July 2005?

Something is odd here ....& Why were people still getting arrested in January 2007 under the charge of failing to disclose Hamdi Isaac's location, when Isaac was already in Police custody (since circa 20th September 2005)?

& Note the number of related family members detained. This Guardian article lists other names/relationships of some of the other accused.
A further 10 people charged in connection with the failed attacks were also due to appear before the court via video link.

They include Mr Osman's wife, Yeshiemebet Girma, 29, and her younger sister Mulumebet Girma, 21, who are charged with failing to disclose information about Mr Osman and with helping him to evade arrest.

Their brother Essayas Girma, 20, of Stockwell, south London, is also charged with failing to disclose information about Mr Osman, his brother-in-law, and with assisting him in evading arrest. Mohamed Kabashi, 23, of Mary Magdalene Road, Brighton, faces the same two charges.
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Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM #2

Do they normally round up entire families for this charge, of course they don't, largely the police accept that families are not immediately forthcoming with such information.
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Oct 19 2006, 10:01 AM #3

truthseeker @ Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM wrote:Do they normally round up entire families for this charge, of course they don't, largely the police accept that families are not immediately forthcoming with such information.
It makes me think it would be worth an FOI request to the MPS along the lines of:

"After the events in London on 7th July, could you please let me have the figures for the total number of arrests of suspects in connection to these events, including those taken in for questioning".

Doesn't appear to breach the MPS code of not entering into a Q & A session. To my knowledge the answer is 1.
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Oct 19 2006, 10:36 AM #4

& Why arrest & detain someone in January 2006 for "having information which could have led to the prosecution of someone who you have previously had extradited back & have had in custody since September 2005 (Hussain Osman/Hamdi Isaac)?


having information which could have led to the prosecution


Excuse me, but isn't that a description of a WITNESS?!


From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4130420.stm
The suspect charged in January 2006 was

MUHEDIN ALI

Muhedin Ali, 27, from west London, has been charged with having information which could have led to the prosecution of Hussain Osman.

He was charged on 27 January, 2006.

He is also charged with knowing or believing that Hussain Osman had committed attempted murder, conspiracy to murder and other offences.
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Bridget,

The Met etc. still refer to 'ongoing investigations' in stock answers to refusal to release CCTV etc. An answer to the question if there are any 'July 7' arrests/ongoing investiagtions etc. would be useful.

Also ask the question with respect to July 21st events:

i.e. names of detainees, arrest date, charge being held under, scheduled trial date etc.

Although, I think I can guess the response, all in the name of National Security, of course.......
In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, "just to keep the people frightened." -- George Orwell, 1984
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Oct 19 2006, 10:42 AM #5

He is also charged with knowing or believing that Hussain Osman had committed attempted murder, conspiracy to murder and other offences.
Doesn't the use of the past tense include anyone who watched the news or read a newspaper?

Is all of this begining to sound like thought crime?
�To those who are afraid of the truth, I wish to offer a few scary truths; and to those who are not afraid of the truth, I wish to offer proof that the terrorism of truth is the only one that can be of benefit to the proletariat.� -- On Terrorism and the State, Gianfranco Sanguinetti
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Mar 8 2007, 07:20 PM #6

Plot accused 'only knew suspects'&nbsp;
Last Updated: Wednesday, 28 February 2007, 16:19 GMT&nbsp;


Mr Yahya was out of the UK on 21 July 2005

A man on trial over his alleged involvement in an alleged terror plot protested his innocence after he was detained in Ethiopia, a jury has heard.
Adel Yahya told police who flew out to quiz him that he knew the other people held over the incident on the London transport network on 21 July 2005.

But he said he "should not be found guilty by association", Woolwich Crown Court heard.

Mr Yahya, 24, and five other men deny conspiracy to murder.

They also have pleaded not guilty to conspiracy to cause explosions.

Mr Yahya was not in the UK at the time four of his co-defendants are said to have attempted to set off suicide bombs on three Tube trains and a bus.

Among the prosecution claims is that he was involved in obtaining components used in the devices on 21 July 2005.

Witness statement

The court heard Mr Yahya left the UK in June 2005 and was held in Addis Ababa on 29 November following a request from the UK authorities.

Detective Constable David Hiller was among the Scotland Yard officers to visit Mr Yahya in custody pending his return.

In court, the officer said he agreed with a defence account of what Mr Yahya had told him.

Mr Yahya's counsel Peter Thornton QC told the jury: "He stated that he was entirely innocent of any involvement in the 21/7 attacks but accepted that he knew people involved.

"He pointed out that he should not be found guilty by association.

"He said he would be happily interviewed under caution and make a witness statement to the UK police."

The jury heard Mr Yahya did not make any comment when formally interviewed later in the UK at Paddington Green police station.

The trial was adjourned until Thursday.

source:BBC
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Jun 4 2007, 10:55 AM #7

Adel Yahya is currently in the dock:
May 30, 2007 - YAHYA: 'I WAS SO SHOCKED' CLAIMS ACCUSED TERRORIST STOKE NEWINGTON, TOTTENHAM, FINSBURY PARK, NORTH LONDON

The sixth July 21 bombing suspect claimed today (WED) he was 'absolutely shocked' to discover his friends were involved in the suicide plot. Adel Yahya, 24, said he had no idea of any alleged terrorist conspiracy to attack the London transport network.&nbsp;



May 31, 2007 - YAHYA:21/7 SUSPECT KEPT LIST OF EXPLOSIVE SUPPLIERS STOCKWELL, SW LONDON; NORTH KENSINGTON, W LONDON; FINSBURY PARK, STOKE NEWINGTON, TOTTENHAM, N LONDON.

The sixth July 21 bombing suspect kept a list of suppliers for explosives and the main chemical used in the alleged suicide attacks, a court heard today (THURS). Adel Yahya, 24, had a CR Rom with a massive catalogue of goods and prices including 29 international sources of hydrogen peroxide, it is claimed.&nbsp;



June 01, 2007 - YAHYA:SISTER OF 21/7 BOMBER SHOCKED TO LEARN OF HIS EXTREMISM. TOTTENHAM, N LONDON; SHEPHERD'S BUSH, W LONDON; SHOREDITCH, E LONDON; KENNINGTON, SE LONDON.

The sister of the sixth July 21 bombing suspect told jurors she was shocked her brother had an extremist book on jihad. Lina Yahya claimed Adel Yahya, 24, had never expressed any strong views and was focussed on studies and getting married.&nbsp;

source:Courtnewsuk
In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, "just to keep the people frightened." -- George Orwell, 1984
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