Abu Izzadeen / Trevor Brooks

Everywhere there's a hint of 'IslamoFascist' extremism, there's a convert to Islam or two, often a caucasian one. As William Ehrman, Director General (Defence & Intelligence) of the FCO, wrote:
"Dealing with Islamist extremism, the messages are more complex, the constituencies we would aim at are more difficult to indentify, and greater damage could be done to the overall effort if links back to UK or US sources were revealed."
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Abu Izzadeen / Trevor Brooks

truthseeker
Joined: 11 May 2006, 14:55

20 Sep 2006, 15:17 #1

Reid speech disrupted by hecklers
Two hecklers interrupted the speech and were led away from the event
Home Secretary John Reid has been heckled during a speech about targeting potential Muslim extremists.

He was interrupted by activist Abu Izzadeen, a Muslim, who said he was "furious" about "state terrorism by British police".

In his speech, Mr Reid asked Muslim parents to keep a close eye on their children and act if they suspected they were being radicalised by extremists.

It was his first speech to a Muslim audience since becoming home secretary.

The protester, also known as Omar Brookes, denies being a member of the banned Abu Ghurabaa group.

He accused the minister of being an "enemy" of Islam.

Mr Reid, who was speaking in Leytonstone, east London, watched as Mr Izzadeen was led from the building by police and stewards.


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A second heckler was ejected a few minutes later after he also interrupted the speech.

The man emerged from the venue clutching several posters, one of which said: "John Reid you will pay!"

During his time in east London, which also involved a visit to a mosque, Mr Reid said community and religious leaders could play a key role in the fight against terrorism.

The home secretary said "our fight is not with Muslims generally". Instead, he said, there was a "struggle against extremism".

He warned that terrorist fanatics sought young vulnerable minds to help their cause.

Mr Reid said: "There is no nice way of saying this. These fanatics are looking to groom and brainwash children, including your children, for suicide bombings, grooming them to kill themselves in order to murder others."

He stressed that by protecting families the community would protect itself.

The speech came after some Muslim leaders expressed concerns about the UK's foreign policy and called for it to be changed.

Mr Reid did not tell Muslim parents to report their concerns to the police but wants them to confront their children's behaviour and talk to them.

Shankat Khan, 55, one of the older local residents who attended the speech, said it was very narrow to insinuate that it was just Muslim children who were being radicalised.

He said: "What about the British parents? What about the Afro-Caribbean parents? We are as worried as other parents are but we need to be part of a wider society."

BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford said Muslim elders felt their "real concerns" about the points raised by the home secretary had been "spoiled by stupid heckling".

'Dreadful misjudgement'

Earlier this year, Prime Minister Tony Blair said the government alone could not root out extremism in Muslim communities and defeat the terrorism it creates.

After the 7 July attacks last year, ministers organised national roadshows targeting fanaticism.

Following Mr Reid's speech, shadow attorney general Dominic Grieve said the home secretary was "in danger of repeating what the prime minister has already said: that Muslim extremism is a problem for the Muslim community".

Mr Grieve said the minister "needs to realise that it is a problem for all of us".

In an open letter last month, some Muslims leaders said British foreign policy was putting civilians at increased risk in the UK and abroad.

Mr Reid described the letter, signed by three Muslim MPs, three peers and 38 organisations, as a "dreadful misjudgement".

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The Antagonist
Joined: 25 Nov 2005, 11:41

20 Sep 2006, 15:30 #2

Tim Ireland, of Bloggerheads fame, sums it up:
Ten tell-tale signs that your teenager might be a terrorist

PA - Reid terror plea to Muslim parents: Home Secretary John Reid will challenge British Muslims to come forward with information about suspected terrorists. He will meet an audience of specially-invited Muslims and urge parents to "look for the tell-tale signs" of radicalisation in their children.

Let's leave aside the disgraceful failure to fulfil Teh Sacred Orwellian Prophecy (damn it; everyone knows the children are supposed to spy on the parents) and instead focus on that most-crucial of missing gaps... the "tell-tale signs" that John Reid fails to provide for Willing Servants of Western Democracy:

Ten tell-tale signs that your teenager might be a terrorist:

1. Do they harbour a completely false sense of grievance?
2. Do they question and/or challenge authority?
3. Do they complain when you or other figures of authority interfere with their independence and/or their 'right' to do this or that?
4. Do they stay out late and/or act in a suspicious manner with friends?
5. Do they play violent videos games and/or own an iPod?
7. iPod or not, do they listen to subversive music?
8. Do they show a superior grasp of technology?
9. Have they ever contemplated suicide?
10. Have they been exposed to extreme and/or militant religious views?

If all of the above is too challenging, then you may instead choose to rely on this alternative list:

1. Are they a Muslim?
2. Are they a Muslim?
3. Are they a Muslim?
4. Are they a Muslim?
5. Are they a Muslim?
6. Are they a Muslim?
7. Are they a Muslim?
8. Are they a Muslim?
9. Are they a Muslim?
10. Are they a Muslim?

Source: Bloggerheads
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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The Antagonist
Joined: 25 Nov 2005, 11:41

21 Sep 2006, 01:35 #3

John Reid tells Muslims to be suspicious of their own children, The Antagonist tells everyone to be suspicious of John Reid and 'links back to UK or US sources'.
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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The Antagonist
Joined: 25 Nov 2005, 11:41

21 Sep 2006, 22:02 #4

George Galloway - another of those 'lefties' that refuse to address issues such as 9/11 and 7/7, amazingly, wrote the following to John Reid following the Abu Izzadeen appearance at Reid's brainwashing against brainwashing speech in Leyton yesterday:
Galloway 'open-mouthed' at Reid 'fiasco'
20/09/2006

The following letter was sent on September 20th after The Home Secretary John Reid was harangued at a meeting of Muslims in East London.
Dear Home Secretary,

I have been watching open-mouthed the altercation you have provoked in East London with your ill-judged, patronising and provocative foray into territory you clearly barely understand. There is much that will be said about the child-like - Patricia Hewittesque! - performance you gave your audience. I want to concentrate on the altercation.

The man who harangued you - Abu Izzadine - is a well-known and violent extremist from an organisation your own government has proscribed. Yet he was allowed within punching distance of the British Home Secretary. How ? Why ?

This is the same man who led a group of fanatic thugs in the brief "hostage-taking" of myself and my daughter and several innocent members of the public during a general election meeting last year. This is well known to the Special Branch and senior police officers in East London - the very people in charge of your security today.

This man has appeared on many occasions on television and in the press as a dangerous extremist who has praised the terrorist attacks on July 7th and 9/11. His comments were amongst those adduced in your own government's case for the proscription of the Al Ghuraba organisation.

There are only two conceivable explanations as to how this man, at this sensitive time, was allowed to hijack your Potemkin Village performance today.

Either our police and security services are so fantastically incompetent that Bin Laden himself might have slipped in to beard you at your podium. Or someone somewhere wanted to engineer precisely this confrontation to show you in a certain light and to portray the Muslims of Britain in the most aggressive violent and extreme way possible, as a justification for the utterly counter-productive policies you are following.

Which is it ?

Because, as you know, I am not a believer in conspiracy theories I am leaning towards the first explanation. If I am right then yet again the Metropolitan Police have proved almost comically incompetent. The sight of a small, slight, helmeted police officer being dwarfed by a giant ranting fanatical thug - talk about a thin blue line! - as all that stood between you and a violent attack will certainly have provided food for thought and encouragement to the country's enemies. Yet again the justification for continuing in office of Sir Ian Blair must be called into question.

But if I am wrong, and this all turns out to have been some Nixonian "dirty tricks" operation..then of course the questions raised are much more profound and dangerous

I await your response with interest.

Yours sincerely
George Galloway MP
Wakey wakey, George, you're nearly there.

If he could find the time to sit and watch the clip properly, he'd see the world's smallest policeman (as shown below) being advised what to do by a walkie-talkied gentleman in a suit.



BBC footage available here in both the edited version and the full-length Reid bore-a-thon which gives the incident some context.
"The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you." -- Immortal Technique

"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." -- Malcolm X

"The eternal fight is not many battles fought on one level, but one great battle fought on many different levels." -- The Antagonist

"Truth does not fear investigation." -- Unknown
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truthseeker
Joined: 11 May 2006, 14:55

21 Sep 2006, 22:48 #5

What amazes me is the way he gives them a lecture on British history, but he talks to them as if they are foreigners, just off the boat, like they know nothing about Britain, like they don't even know who he is. I also loved the lecture on how it is important to know what it is you are fighting for, what it is you are defending, perhaps he could tell us what we are fighting for, what noble cause we are killing for.

He also mentions socialist terrorism in Italy, would that not be Gladio terrorism, the he goes on to say even Christianity has been used as an excuse for terroism, he stresses the even, as if it is almost unbelievable. Is he a Christian, they way he stressed it, made it sound like he very much is.
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truthseeker
Joined: 11 May 2006, 14:55

21 Sep 2006, 23:06 #6

As Abu Izzadeen is dragged from the building, Reid smugly says, "We'll let the gentleman discuss with the authorities"
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Sinclair
Joined: 24 Jan 2006, 22:57

22 Sep 2006, 10:38 #7

Abu Izzadeen was interviewed at the prime slot (8.15am) by John Humphries on the Radio 4 Today Programme this morning, spouting views designed to enrage the listeners.

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In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, "just to keep the people frightened." -- George Orwell, 1984
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