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December 8th, 2017, 10:51 pm #41

Sling wrote:

I’m aiming for a longer full beard if that’s possible(which I’m assuming will be more apparent at the 3 month mark). 
Well, it's apparent now that you are capable of a longer full beard... but don't worry, you will see for yourself soon enough that it's possible.

If you read any of my posts to guys who have beards with massive coverage such as yours, you would know by now that I really like a Spade beard style for younger guys who want to sport longer beards.  This style would fit you well because it needs a very long goatee and the hair that hangs below the jaw is tapered from very long in the front to short at the neck.  This hairline actually looks hot when it is steep enough to be parallel to the cheek line. It's especially good for you because if you leave your beard long toward the neck, it going to overpower the sides; whereas putting the length out front will let the sides hold their own.  I mention this now because if you like this Spade style, then you will want your new barber to start tapering the undercarriage.  He is not to touch the goatee but ask him to taper the length toward the neck.  On each successive trim, he will continue to taper but the undercarriage becomes steeper because he never takes any length off the goatee whereas length at the neck is still short.

Now, I don't know what to tell you about your stache.  It's already bulking out and I usually recommend that you train it horizontal so that it can bulk out more.  For you, this is going to result in a massive stache, which I don't know if you can handle.  The one good thing about longer hairs in a stache is that they can be blow dried and shaped after they get to be about 1 inch long.  My preference is a slight swirl from philtrum (center) to tip [look closely at my avatar or go to my journey thread to see what I mean].

Anyway, you are in for some wild ride and I hope your mental progress catches up to your physical growing soon... so you can handle this beast.
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December 8th, 2017, 11:02 pm #42

Haha, I'm not surprised, hopefully they mean it in a good way! :)
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December 9th, 2017, 12:02 am #43

jasjes wrote:
Sling wrote:

I’m aiming for a longer full beard if that’s possible(which I’m assuming will be more apparent at the 3 month mark). 
Well, it's apparent now that you are capable of a longer full beard... but don't worry, you will see for yourself soon enough that it's possible.

If you read any of my posts to guys who have beards with massive coverage such as yours, you would know by now that I really like a Spade beard style for younger guys who want to sport longer beards.  This style would fit you well because it needs a very long goatee and the hair that hangs below the jaw is tapered from very long in the front to short at the neck.  This hairline actually looks hot when it is steep enough to be parallel to the cheek line. It's especially good for you because if you leave your beard long toward the neck, it going to overpower the sides; whereas putting the length out front will let the sides hold their own.  I mention this now because if you like this Spade style, then you will want your new barber to start tapering the undercarriage.  He is not to touch the goatee but ask him to taper the length toward the neck.  On each successive trim, he will continue to taper but the undercarriage becomes steeper because he never takes any length off the goatee whereas length at the neck is still short.

Now, I don't know what to tell you about your stache.  It's already bulking out and I usually recommend that you train it horizontal so that it can bulk out more.  For you, this is going to result in a massive stache, which I don't know if you can handle.  The one good thing about longer hairs in a stache is that they can be blow dried and shaped after they get to be about 1 inch long.  My preference is a slight swirl from philtrum (center) to tip [look closely at my avatar or go to my journey thread to see what I mean].

Anyway, you are in for some wild ride and I hope your mental progress catches up to your physical growing soon... so you can handle this beast.
Thanks and yea I was going to say that I’m trying to actually grow it into the spade style. So what I understood was the the neck part of the beard would be tapered but the goatee would be untouched right so it grows out? Can you link me to a picture I can show my new barber so he understands? I don’t want him accidentally trimming something he shouldn’t and me going back to step 1.
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December 9th, 2017, 1:16 am #44

Sent you a PM... let me know what you think.
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December 10th, 2017, 6:41 am #45

jasjes wrote: Sent you a PM... let me know what you think.
Thanks yea that style looks really nice and I understand now exactly what to tell my barber. Would it be fine if I wait out on trimming anything other than carving the neckline until 3 months? I just don’t want the barber accidentally trimming off something he wasn’t supposed to.

Also had a question about my beard hair. The hair seems to curl, is there any way to make it straighter so it looks longer? Would combing/brushing/beard oil help for this? I feel like it could look longer if it didn’t curl up.
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December 10th, 2017, 12:36 pm #46

Sling wrote:
Would it be fine if I wait out on trimming anything other than carving the neckline until 3 months? I just don’t want the barber accidentally trimming off something he wasn’t supposed to.

Also had a question about my beard hair. The hair seems to curl, is there any way to make it straighter so it looks longer? Would combing/brushing/beard oil help for this? I feel like it could look longer if it didn’t curl up.
You got so much beard in just 1 month that in 3 months you are going to look like the first picture in the PM I sent.  It would be better to start the undercarriage tapering as soon as you start to see some length back toward the neck and hair starting to fall off the chin in the front.  You also want to maintain your neckline which is impossible if you have length at the neck.  If there is going to be a mistake made in trimming, make it early and you won't feel the pain so much.  When you go to the barber, take a picture with you, say this is your goal, ask what he suggests.  If he shows any uncertainty, then he is probably not the barber to care for your beard and you can politely say you will wait on it.

Curls are a natural and beautiful thing with beards... they give the beard body and help to cover skin better.  However, after those curly hairs get twice as long, gravity will have a say in the matter and they will straighten some.  In fact, this is a neat thing to watch with your undercarriage and goatee... the curls hold the hair up tight until they get enough length and then they start to straighten... so you go from minimum length to maybe half or three quarters inch in a very short time.  You might think that your beard is really growing fast, but in reality gravity is just straightening the hairs out some.

At this stage you should be brushing your beard as often as you like and applying beard oil [4-5 drops] once a day.  It's going to soften your beard and start to show the shape you want for your beard. 

I can tell that you are really getting excited about your beard journey already and that you have good enthusiasm to show your beard well. Your brain plays a big part in the success you will have and you are already making good progress in that area.  It's all about getting your brain to set reasonable goals and accepting what you have to work with in achieving those goals.  You can start telling yourself that you are becoming quite bearded and then show this same enthusiasm when talking to those around you.  They will then start complimenting your beard and that usually seals the deal. 
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December 11th, 2017, 4:33 am #47

jasjes wrote:
Sling wrote:
Would it be fine if I wait out on trimming anything other than carving the neckline until 3 months? I just don’t want the barber accidentally trimming off something he wasn’t supposed to.

Also had a question about my beard hair. The hair seems to curl, is there any way to make it straighter so it looks longer? Would combing/brushing/beard oil help for this? I feel like it could look longer if it didn’t curl up.
You got so much beard in just 1 month that in 3 months you are going to look like the first picture in the PM I sent.  It would be better to start the undercarriage tapering as soon as you start to see some length back toward the neck and hair starting to fall off the chin in the front.  You also want to maintain your neckline which is impossible if you have length at the neck.  If there is going to be a mistake made in trimming, make it early and you won't feel the pain so much.  When you go to the barber, take a picture with you, say this is your goal, ask what he suggests.  If he shows any uncertainty, then he is probably not the barber to care for your beard and you can politely say you will wait on it.

Curls are a natural and beautiful thing with beards... they give the beard body and help to cover skin better.  However, after those curly hairs get twice as long, gravity will have a say in the matter and they will straighten some.  In fact, this is a neat thing to watch with your undercarriage and goatee... the curls hold the hair up tight until they get enough length and then they start to straighten... so you go from minimum length to maybe half or three quarters inch in a very short time.  You might think that your beard is really growing fast, but in reality gravity is just straightening the hairs out some.

At this stage you should be brushing your beard as often as you like and applying beard oil [4-5 drops] once a day.  It's going to soften your beard and start to show the shape you want for your beard. 

I can tell that you are really getting excited about your beard journey already and that you have good enthusiasm to show your beard well. Your brain plays a big part in the success you will have and you are already making good progress in that area.  It's all about getting your brain to set reasonable goals and accepting what you have to work with in achieving those goals.  You can start telling yourself that you are becoming quite bearded and then show this same enthusiasm when talking to those around you.  They will then start complimenting your beard and that usually seals the deal. 
Thanks for the help! Yea now I understand that if I don’t trim the neck hair it’ll be harder to establish a line and won’t look like the spade style I want. I’m going to the barber this Friday so I’ll show him the picture you sent and explain what I want. I’ll post on Friday after the cut.
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December 16th, 2017, 2:16 am #48

one week update:

Just got the beard lined up at the cheek area and neckline. Hoping the cheeks catch up as I feel the goatee area is overpowering the beard.
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December 16th, 2017, 2:59 am #49

Looks absolutely sick after this trim... your barber listened to you well.

Since you are going for the Spade style, you don't need to worry that the goatee is overpowering the cheeks... you want all you can get of the goatee, so let it grow and overpower the rest of your beard.  BTW, your cheeks are improving with lots of young coverage coming along... of course, it's hard to get beyond that massive front look you have.... but it won't be long until the sides join the party... oh, what a beard to behold. 
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December 16th, 2017, 8:52 am #50

Nice update, dude! Your developing adult man's full beard is coming along nicely, especially the front of it, that's a killer! I agree with Bill, the barber has done a great job on carving your cheek and neckline. Keep it all growing for a total of 13 weeks! Have you received any comments? How are you feeling about being bearded? Keep growing and beard on! :D
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December 16th, 2017, 8:25 pm #51

jasjes wrote: Looks absolutely sick after this trim... your barber listened to you well.

Since you are going for the Spade style, you don't need to worry that the goatee is overpowering the cheeks... you want all you can get of the goatee, so let it grow and overpower the rest of your beard.  BTW, your cheeks are improving with lots of young coverage coming along... of course, it's hard to get beyond that massive front look you have.... but it won't be long until the sides join the party... oh, what a beard to behold. 
Thanks! And your right I should stop worrying about the cheeks since I’m going for the spade look which needs a strong goatee. Overall, I’m enjoying this beard journey far more than the previous ones that I had and gaven up on.
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December 16th, 2017, 8:28 pm #52

Grimers wrote: Nice update, dude! Your developing adult man's full beard is coming along nicely, especially the front of it, that's a killer! I agree with Bill, the barber has done a great job on carving your cheek and neckline. Keep it all growing for a total of 13 weeks! Have you received any comments? How are you feeling about being bearded? Keep growing and beard on! :D
Thanks! I feel a lot happier about it than the past years where I’ve tried growing it out. Now that I have a goal(the spade style) it’s a lot easier to enjoy the progression. As far as the comments it seems like people are liking the look more now unlike when I first started growing it out.
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December 16th, 2017, 8:30 pm #53

your going to look amazing with a spade style i think!
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December 16th, 2017, 8:36 pm #54

That's great news! :D
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December 16th, 2017, 8:40 pm #55

mattj wrote: your going to look amazing with a spade style i think!
Thanks I hope so!
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December 22nd, 2017, 4:51 pm #56

Month and 2 week update:

This about halfway for the 3 month journey. I feel pretty good about the progress. Going to barber next week so he can clean it up again.

Question: is taking biotin helpful for beard growth? I haven’t taken it but if it can only help I’d want to try it.

Also: do you guys think a little bit higher for the neckline would look better for me or is it fine where it’s at? I don’t know why but to me it seems a little bit too low. Like from the side it looks like it covers more than under the jawline.
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December 22nd, 2017, 6:20 pm #57

Woah, nice update dude! You have an awesome young man's full beard! Yes, biotin can help, but don't take it, if you don't want to. Man, let me just take a minute... That neckline is unbelievable! Have you received any comments? Keep growing and beard on! :D
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December 22nd, 2017, 7:05 pm #58

Every update shows more coverage on the sides through normal development.  Front is completely covered and nowhere to go but to bulk out.  Is this why your stache is taller in the center or did you get new development right at the nose?

As to biotin, it will help hair and nails to grow but does nothing for new development.  Also, if your body has enough biotin, the excess will be shed... so it only benefits if you have a deficit.

Neckline looks good but you need a straight in shot of the sides to check it out.  What "clean up" are you going to mention to your barber?  Where are you taking this beard after you reach 3 months?
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December 22nd, 2017, 7:15 pm #59

jasjes wrote: Every update shows more coverage on the sides through normal development.  Front is completely covered and nowhere to go but to bulk out.  Is this why your stache is taller in the center or did you get new development right at the nose?

As to biotin, it will help hair and nails to grow but does nothing for new development.  Also, if your body has enough biotin, the excess will be shed... so it only benefits if you have a deficit.

Neckline looks good but you need a straight in shot of the sides to check it out.  What "clean up" are you going to mention to your barber?  Where are you taking this beard after you reach 3 months?
Thanks, I feel like my neckline goes beyond just covering under my jawline. I feel like half an inch higher would look better as I think the neckline I have now has a bit too much hair on the actual neck. So as far as the clean up I was going to tell him to line up the cheek again like last time and just carve the neckline a bit higher if that’s ok. I’d like to see where I’m at when I hit three months before deciding what to do long term but I kind of want to give it a total of 6 months without trimming to give the cheeks the potential to bulk a bit more.
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December 22nd, 2017, 7:31 pm #60

It won't hurt to have the barber take up the neckline slightly.  If it's too high after the trim, it will grow back fast enough.

I just want you to know that in 6 months, your front look will be long and really bulked out.  If you keep the front balanced to the developing sides by trimming along the way, then it will just look solid in the front and at that time the sides should also be rather solid.  I think keeping a more balanced look will play well on your brain because you are going to be pleased with results. 

If you get the urge to grow long before reaching 6 months, let the goatee get really long so that when you hit 6 months, you will have the start of a long beard.
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