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Sources for the Filthy 47's Ye Olde Feudal Drive-by of Yore

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November 7th, 2017, 4:18 pm #1

I'm collecting sources for everybody's favorite 47 Ronin, and want to make sure I get my hands on everything that mentions them. This is what I have so far, please post any books or articles I'm missing. Also, let me know what you think the best 47 Ronin/Chuushingura movies to watch are. You can feel free to leave Keanu's movie off that list.

Tales of Old Japan - Mitford

Seppuku - Andrew Rankin

The Revenge of the 47 Ronin - Turnbull

Ansart, O. (2007). Loyalty in Seventeenth and Eighteenth Century Samurai Discourse. Japanese Studies in the History of Science, 27(2), 139–154.

Ellgen, J. P. (2007). The Changing Significance of Seppuku in Tokugawa Japan (M.A. Humanities). California State University Dominguez Hills.

Hiromi, H., & Smith, H. D. (2006). Singing Tales of the Gishi: Naniwabushi and the Forty-seven Rōnin in Late Meiji Japan. Monumenta Nipponica, 61(4), 459–508.

Masahide, B., & Smith, H. D. (2003). The Akō Incident, 1701-1703. Monumenta Nipponica, 58(2), 149–170.

McMullen, J. (2003). Confucian Perspectives on the Akō Revenge: Law and Moral Agency. Monumenta Nipponica, 58(3), 293–315.

Norinaga, M., & Marcon, F. (2003). The Story of the Loyal Samurai of Akō. Monumenta Nipponica, 58(4), 467–493.

Powell, B. (1984). The Samurai Ethic in Mayama Seika’s Genroku Chūshingura. Modern Asian Studies, 18(4), 725–745.

Shively, D. H. (1955). Bakufu Versus Kabuki. Harvard Journal of Asiatic Studies, 18(3/4), 326–356.

Smith, H. (2006). The media and politics of Japanese popular history: The case of the Akō Gishi. Historical Consciousness, Historiography, and Modern Japanese Values. Retrieved from http://www.columbia.edu/~hds2/pdf/2006_ ... litics.pdf

Smith, H. D. (2003). The Capacity of Chūshingura: Three Hundred Years of Chūshingura. Monumenta Nipponica, 58(1), 1–42.

Smith, H. D., Ii. (2004). The Trouble with Terasaka: The Forty-Seventh Ronin and the Chushingura Imagination. J Apan Review, 16, 3–65.

THE FORTY-SEVEN RONIN INCIDENT DECEMBER 14TH, 1702. (n.d.).

Tochuken, K., & Smith, H. D. (2006). Parting in the Snow at Nanbuzaka, by TōchÅ«ken Kumoemon. Monumenta Nipponica, 61(4), 509–519.
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November 9th, 2017, 2:28 pm #2

Everything that mentions them?

Beatrice Bodart-Bailey's The Dog Shogun [Tokugawa Tsunayoshi] has a chapter "The Forty-Seven Loyal Samurai."
Constantine Vaporis's Tour of Duty says a Tosa samurai while in Edo 1828-29 paid an art evaluator to check the authenticity of calligraphy by Date Masamune and Oishi Kuranosuke (p. 221).
Reichauer et al.'s East Asia: The Great Tradition gives a brief account.

There is also material in the Tokugawa Jikki, but I do not have it handy.
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November 14th, 2017, 5:41 am #3

I really love Bodart Bailey's book, we used to have so many heated debates here because of that book .

And this

Sato Hiroaki Legends Of The Samurai .

Actually translates the gist of some of the letters between the deadbeat lecher Oishi, and Horibe Yasubei, its pretty clear they were not on each other Xmas card list .

Thought id toss this is as well, its pretty rare, and this is a TV Print. its not on DVD/BLU
Kitano as Oishi in Chushingura 1990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYIkWEI1wSo
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November 14th, 2017, 2:13 pm #4

Wow, complete with 90's era Japanese commercials :D They really loved their Kentaki Furaido Chikin back then.
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November 15th, 2017, 7:49 am #5

John Allen Tucker, Rethinking the Ako Ronin Debate: The Religious Significance of Chushin gishi, Japanese Journal of Religious Studies 1999 26/1-2, https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2668

Bryan W. Van Norden (brvannorden@vassar.edu), A Guide to Reading Chūshingura: The Play by Izumo, Shōraku, and Senryū, (as translated by Donald Keene), unpublished/self-published, http://faculty.vassar.edu/brvannor/PlayChushingura.pdf (I believe these are study materials.)

Albert Yamanaka, SWORDS OF THE 47 RONIN, https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/ronin.htm

Henry Smith, Kanadehon Chushingura, "The Treasury of Loyal Retainers", ACT BY ACT SUMMARIES/MAJOR CHARACTERS/PREDECESSORS OF KANADEHON, http://www.columbia.edu/~hds2/chushingu ... /Index.htm

Henry Smith, Chûshingura in the 1980s: Rethinking the Story of the 47 Ronin, http://www.columbia.edu/~hds2/47ronin/47ronin_rev.htm

Fuji Arts, The Faithful Samurai (Kuniyoshi's ukiyoe series), http://www.fujiarts.com/cgi-bin/encyclo ... _gishi_den

元禄赤穂事件の一部始終, http://akoinfo.com/akogisi/akogisitop.html, I can't figure out if this is a commercial or city page. The site map, http://akoinfo.com/sitemap1.html

土屋の殿様, Lord Tsuchiya and the probably apocryphal story of Kira Kozunosuke's neighbor, http://morigenkiya.hamazo.tv/c540406.html

Dramatizations:
Kanadehon Chushingura (kabuki or joruri), especially Oboshi's tako eating/rusty sword scene at the Ichirikiya Teahouse, Act VII: Gion Ichiriki Chaya

Mizoguchi Kenji, Genroku Chushingura, 1941

Inagaki Hiroshi, Chushingura, 1962, fun fact--kabuki/movie actor Ichikawa Somegoro's (Ashura, The Samurai I Loved) father (Matsumoto Kōshirō IX as Yato Emoshichi, the bookkeeper's son) and grandfather (Matsumoto Hakuo I as Oishi Kuranosuke) are in this one.

Mori Kazuo, Hakuoki (Samurai Vendetta), 1959, Nemuri Kyoshiro meets Zatoichi, (not really)

Sugita Shigemichi, Saigo no Chuushingura (The Last Ronin), 2010

Dai Chuushingura (TV miniseries), 1971, fun fact--Matsumoto Kōshirō IX, who in the Inagaki version plays Oishi impersonating an Imperial official here plays the real Imperial official whom Mifune Toshiro as Oishi impersonates, Matsumoto catches Mifune red-handed and then in sympathy gives Mifune his official travel pass. (follow all that?)

Koreeda Hirokazu, Hana yori mo naho (Hana: The Tale of a Reluctant Samurai), 2006, the more you know the Ako story, the better you appreciate the humor ("I want to be the Hole Don guy.)

Watanabe Kunio, Chushingura (The Loyal 47 Ronin), 1958, Hasegawa Kazuo, Ichikawa Raizo, Shintaro Katsu and Tsuruta Koji...nuff said

Fukasaku Kinji, Ako-Jo Danzetsu, 1978, kinda boring despite the presence of Nakamura Kinnosuke, but, great swordplay action by Chiba Shinichi, oh and the soundtrack is just awful.

Ichikawa Kon, 47 Ronin, 1994, despite the awards and stellar cast/crew--Ichikawa Kon, Takakura Ken, Miyazawa Rie, Nakai Kiichi, Asaoka Ruriko, etc.-- this may be my least favorite of the bunch.

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Woohoo, can't wait for the podcast!
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December 14th, 2017, 11:38 pm #6

Id add a couple of Chushingura's to the watch list

Chushingura Yoezenin No Inbo Tokyo TV 2007 . Starring Yuki Nakama, Satomi Kotaro and Masanobu Takashima

This is one of two versions that depict Asano as the bad guy, the Ronin even ask Kira's forgiveness prior to killing him .This one even depicts Asano as a drunken womanizing rapist

Tokugawa Tsunayoshi - Inu To Yobareta Otoko TBS 2004 . Starring Tsunayoshi Kusanagi, Jinnai Takanori , Naoto Ogata, Kyoko Fudaka .

From the creators of Ooku, The story of Tsunayoshi is told in conjunction with the story of Oishi . Shinichi Tsutsumi usually a comic actor, depicts Oishi as a steely eyed, silent vengeance driven killer, no carousing in brothels, or drunken frolics, he just waits until its time to go . The depiction of the raid and the morning after is probably the most accurate ever on film.
Asano and Kira (Takenaka )are depicted as a bad tempered overgrown child and a greedy miser.
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May 20th, 2018, 12:59 am #7

I'm afraid I haven't actually watched it yet, so I'm not sure what he says about the incident, but, for anyone interested, here's a video of a recent talk given by Luke Roberts on the Akô Incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSz0nBtXN2E
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May 21st, 2018, 5:11 am #8

That was a great watch, thanks!
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