Season 8 - Crack Predictions

Season 8 - Crack Predictions

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Sep 3rd, '17, 01:52 #1

Making a new thread for season 8 crack predictions.

So GRRM has recently said that Arya and Gendry will reunite at some point in the books. On the show Gendry is currently in the North and could potentially meet up with Arya. Gendry is still salty about what Mel did to him. Melisandre has prophesied that she and Arya will meet again. Melisandre has also prophesied that she will die in Westeros, which I'm assuming happens before the series ends. Melisandre is also on Arya's list.

Crack spec: Gendry tells Arya what Melisandre did to him. Tells her that she took his king's blood to wipe out Stannis' enemies. And it worked! Arya's brother Robb, Joffrey, and Balon Greyjoy all died.

Arya's pissed on Gendry's behalf, but because she's a spiteful, blood thirsty assasin now, the prospect of quickly wiping out the remaining names on her list is too tempting. She had a similair opportunity before from Jaquen during her time at Harrenhal, and she didn't make the most of it. She's not going to let another opprtunity pass her up.

She forcibly takes Gendry's blood, and sets out to find Melisandre. When she finds her, she has Melisandre perform a blood magic sacrifice, and Arya names her remaining names, including Melisandre.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 02:34 #2

I don't even think this is THAT cracky!

Apart from taking Gendry's blood, I think things could go down exactly this way. I absolutely think Arya will be the one to kill Mel, and it's even possible that it could be her final kill. If Gendry has something to do with extra motivation, it could be painted as Arya being way too far gone to maintain human connections and all she understands is death (she "loves" and cares by killing enemies), OR she makes Mel her final kill FOR Gendry and then tries to be more normal. I'm betting on the former, but at least this kind of situation would give meat to all three of those characters.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 04:22 #3

My crack prediction is that Jaime will be killed by Arya who will kill Cersei wearing Jaime's face later, but he will be brought back by Melisandre who returns to Westeros as an old lady. I know it's a bit complicated and sounds like a fairytale I don't really expect this to happen, I only find the idea of Jaime being resurrected like the beast intriguing. and Melisandre is perfect for the role of an enchantress who looks like an old woman and can turn the beast into a prince again. I know that it would be too repetitive because she already resurrected Jon but Melisandre had implied that her and Arya would meet again and this kind of a scenario could tie up all these loose ends, including "the little brother or sister" part in Maggy's prophecy. Because if Arya wore Jaime's face she would be both the little brother and the little sister, maybe that's why Maggy used the word "CAN'T SHE JUST CHOKE HERSELF?" because she would be female and male at the same time. There is also something weird about the fact that Jaime doesn't have his right hand and Arya is left-handed. In the passage related to Melisandre burning the statues of 7 Gods, the stranger loses her fingers one by one. It would be also in line with beauty and the beast if Melisandre (and Arya) decided to resurrect Jaime when they saw Brienne crying over his body and understood that she loved him.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 06:53 #4

My crack prediction: MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY will be the one who appears to kill Cersei. I haven't a clue yet 'how' he will do it, but I am sure the new 3ER will think of something!

Maybe it will be Arya using MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY's face who will kill her? If the Stark kids are now sticking together, then Cersei is the Lannister most likely to be the target. Cersei did nothing to check Joffrey's brutality to Sansa either before or after PA INGALLS's death, and she also added her own particular level of viciousness. Arya saw Cersei there supporting and defending Joffrey's lies about what happened when Lady attacked Joffrey; Arya watched Cersei stand there while Joffrey gave the order to execute PA INGALLS. The show has not mentioned the Valonquar part of the prophecy, but in books or show, MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY would be the perfect left-field "little brother".
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Sep 3rd, '17, 07:05 #5

How is Arya using MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY's face? I thought she can only use a face of the DISCO/killed person?
Oh, and can she only use a face of a person she herself killed or any DISCO person?

If it's the latter, we have my crack prediction! Arya will kill Cersei using Jon Snow's face! He's already DISCO - resurrected, but he did die at one point, and he is the youngest of Rhaegar's children and second in line of Stark children (Robb was older, yes?), and he's a goody two-shoes which makes him a perfect candidate.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 07:41 #6

My prediction is that once the Night King is dealt with, Arya and the Hound are going on a secret mission to King's Landing. Arya is going with Littlefinger's face to "bring intelligence" to Cersei. In all the confusion, I'm not sure anyone in King's Landing would hear that he'd died. Arya as Littlefinger will sneak The Hound in to King's Landing where he will fight his brother. As they fight, Littlefinger/Arya will kill Cersei. I should note that my husband disagrees with the Arya using people's faces of different heights thing, even though we saw it with Walder Frey. He doubts that GRRM intended that type of use. That said, I like this idea.

I also have a hunch that the Seven Kingdoms aren't going to not be one country anymore, so much as a confederation of rulers from different areas, so at least one major player will survive from each area, and in many cases a major couple. I really hope that this will include Brienne and Jaime with their ten children. I think Tyrion is more likely to die than Jaime, though I'm not sure why. I think Sansa is going to make it to the end. I would really like to hope that she gets together with Sandor Clegane despite the age difference and lack of attention given to this ship. There were some notes of their relationship early on in the show, and it's not like age ever stopped relationships at that time. Sam and Gilly are definitely surviving. No doubt in my mind.

Beyond that, I think ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS will die, Jon will live, MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY will retreat North, and Arya will live, but come very very close to dying.

GRRM said the ending would be bittersweet, and I agree with someone I saw who posted either here or on Tumblr, that it's probably going to be like a Harry Potter ending - some major losses but overall good is going to triumph and there will be some romance and good in the world. I don't see Jaime dying in a way that involves Arya or Cersei and I'm really not sure I see Brienne or Jaime dying at all, though they will come close.

Again, just hunches. But I think a lot of our worst case scenarios stem more from the type of darkness and trauma the show has accustomed us to rather than from the story that GRRM is writing.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 09:36 #7

I had a random crack thought yesterday: what if Cersei does give birth but hands the baby off to the Night King like Craster, in order to ensure her survival and make a pact with him?

Re: Arya using Jaime's face and then him being resurrected. I don't think that's possible. I mean, as far as I understand, the Faceless Men physically take the face? I'm not sure how exactly it works, but that's my understanding of it? So once Arya takes Jaime's face, that's it. I don't want to exclude any possibility at this stage, but I just find it hard to believe that George would put Jaime through everything he put him through, to explore redemption, only for him to become a tool for Arya to kill Cersei at the very end. And it's a very popular theory amongst the fanboys, which I personally hate. While I do, right now, think Jaime is one of the characters with the highest chances of survival, I am not against him dying, but, IMO, he needs to go in a heroic death that is actually useful to the end game, not as just another face for Arya to wear.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 10:12 #8

I expressed myself poorly , in my mind it was a happy ending. I considered it a crack prediction because I guessed that it might not be technically possible as you said, I don't know how Arya's magic works exactly but I thought it might be considered a crack prediction. I'm not sure what a crack prediction is, maybe mine is impossible and not a crack prediction. Jaime wouldn't be DISCO at the end in that scenario, therefore I didn't think that he would be going in a meaningless death, I thought he could be resurrected and Jaime and Brienne could have a happy ending that way, ruling somewhere together. Jaime could do heroic actions before or after his death and resurrection, that's what I thought. It's only something based on beauty and the beast, in case George Martin wanted their ending to be almost the same but it may not be the case at all.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 11:11 #9

december13 wrote:How is Arya using MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY's face? I thought she can only use a face of the DISCO/killed person?
Oh, and can she only use a face of a person she herself killed or any DISCO person?

If it's the latter, we have my crack prediction! Arya will kill Cersei using Jon Snow's face! He's already DISCO - resurrected, but he did die at one point, and he is the youngest of Rhaegar's children and second in line of Stark children (Robb was older, yes?), and he's a goody two-shoes which makes him a perfect candidate.
There's a line of thought that says the fall actually killed MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY...
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Sep 3rd, '17, 11:31 #10

Ah, so we now have 2 of 4 Starks who are deaded - Jon and MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY... we can even throw Arya in the mix for she is said to be "DISCO inside"... If Mikki's long wanted wish fulfills and someone offs Sansa then resurrects her, or she turns into Cersei 2.0 effectively making her DISCO inside, too... Oh, we will have The Stark Walkers... well, MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY would roll, but you get the picture!

And there we have my new crack prediction.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 14:11 #11

In chat, we were discussing how the NK may want a child sacrifice and that if ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS and Cersei are both pregnant, one of them may have to give up a their child. It got a lot more insane than that, in that we named the baby things like Drogritte after Drogo and Ygritte and something like Rhaviserhyreasmon after ever Targaryen ever.

I could go for that.

Maybe the NK just wants a daughter.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 14:34 #12

Yeah, and interestingly the NK was stocking up on incest babies and both these would be incest babies. I just cannot see an incest baby having a happy ending. Little Sam is a bit different because he was the product of sexual violence, and he's being raised by Sam. But a potential J/D or J/C child isn't going to.

If I have to speculate, I wonder whether the J/D child is more likely to be the one sacrificed, given that D&D had already written a miscarriage for Cersei. If the plan had been for Cersei to give up the child to the NK, they wouldn't have even contemplated that. It seems like that baby is going to go at some point, without fanfare.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 14:35 #13

Jaime will kill the Night King, because he is Kingslayer and he already tried to kill a dragon
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Sep 3rd, '17, 14:38 #14

I'm still going with my "Brienne will slay the ice dragon" theory too
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Sep 3rd, '17, 15:30 #15

koops wrote:I'm still going with my "Brienne will slay the ice dragon" theory too
Both theories are solid
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Sep 3rd, '17, 15:36 #16

Sorry in advance for shitty posting because of the voice-to-text thing.

Personally, I’m crack-theory-convinced that Jon will become the next NK. He will do what MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY said, while JD had sex. He will leave ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS. For the greater cause of humanity. Because like there needs to be a Stark at Winterfell, there needs to be a NK. For the balance. In the sense of curse that cannot be destroyed, but can only be passed on to a new generation. And that is going to be Jon.

Arya can kill the Mountain and then die during the duel. Because fuck Cleganebowl.

MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY will learn how to fly Mary Poppins style?, with his wheelchair. And then kill Cersei. Or someone else. Or challenge the Night’s King with the dragon. You bet that no one will see that coming.

I still think Jaqen is going to show up again. Sadly, season 7 shot down my original theory that he was going to pop up at Winterfell and hide under Arya’s bed. But as others have said I think he is the new maester. So maybe he’s going to kill Arya to then steal her face. Because he needed new faces and he used Arya in order to collect them. Or something like that.

Jon will have another near death experience and he’s not going to think of ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS but actually Ygritte. And he’s going to mumble her name. While ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS is there. Pulling a Robert on her.

Mel, upon return, is going to be revealed of using ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS as a tool of prophecy to make Jon Azor Ahai. She’s going to force him situation where he has to kill ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS. Nissa Nissa style.

Varys is going to betray ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS. He will join Team Lannister. And thereby save the human race. All hail King Jaime.

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Sep 3rd, '17, 15:41 #17

My personal crack theory is that Jaime is going to blow up King's Landing with wildfire and then fake his own death. Hence he can be reborn and live a new life on a quiet
island with Brienne.
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Sep 3rd, '17, 17:53 #18

More theories, ridiculous edition:
The whole reason MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY has been referencing awkward personal stuff to people in his prediction/greetings is so he can greet Jaime with "your erection in the tub at Harrenhal was beautiful" in front of Brienne.
Melisandre seduces the Night King and they go back north to live happily ever after.
Cersei enters a 12-step program and comes to Winterfell to apologize for all the things she's done wrong to everybody. Arya kills her.
Ghost comes back with the Night King's severed head in his mouth. "Good boy, Ghost!" Jon says. Fight in the North done.
Sadder idea - wight Ghost attacks Jon. Kills him.
Season 8 Episode 1 - Brienne and Podrick meet up with Lady Stoneheart who's just been sitting in the Riverlands all along waiting for someone to notice her. She's gathered some random supporters. We have the entire plot with Brienne and Pod being threatened with death. Because better late than never, right?
MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY wargs into Cersei; gets her to jump out of the tower.

Alright, those are my ridiculous predictions to add to my regular person predictions. I hope that's allowed!
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Sep 3rd, '17, 18:08 #19

I love it.
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Sep 4th, '17, 19:11 #20

Jenoftarth wrote: so he can greet Jaime with "your erection in the tub at Harrenhal was beautiful" in front of Brienne.
Jenoftarth wrote: Season 8 Episode 1 - Brienne and Podrick meet up with Lady Stoneheart who's just been sitting in the Riverlands all along waiting for someone to notice her. She's gathered some random supporters. We have the entire plot with Brienne and Pod being threatened with death. Because better late than never, right?
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Sep 8th, '17, 14:21 #21

I think something is up with the potential of all the incest babies/pregnancies.

I keep thinking about the Theon/Euron/Yara thread that seems to be so separate from all the rest of the story. I do think that thread'll weave itself back in, and where I think their story lends itself to the final story is with Euron and Yara.

In episode 3, they had the slightest suggestion of Euron sexually assaulting Yara with him comment about the parade and dragging the women through the streets making him hot. And then they disappear. I'm hoping my knowledge of Gemma being pregnant isn't weighing it to my theory, but if I try to think of a narrative reason why Euron would hold on to Yara and why a significant amount of time would pass before Theon gets his act together and tires to rescue her, my mind goes to that.

Plus, it would be another relationship (uncle/niece) of the same degree as Jon and ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS. I think that a reveal of Euron assaulting Yara and the extra revulsion that would cause as to the nature of their bloodline relationship is supposed to be juxtaposed against ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS and Jon.

More importantly, Sam and Gilly have stolen these books, and they may learn more about TPTWP. They may also zero in on clues or messages the WW begin to more blatantly communicate to them. Or there's always Google MELISANDRE'S BOYTOY to drop plot convenient nuggets. So, my crackpot theory is:

The Westerosi gang (Tyrion, Jon, ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS, Jaime, Davos, Brienne, Grey Worm) will join together to try to figure out how to beat the WW. They'll come upon the notion that a child born of one bloodline is the key to ending the war. And fingers will point, speculation will be had. Jaime and Tyrion will immediately think it's Jaime's and Cersei's child (who may already be a non-starter, but they wouldn't know that). ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS and Jon, learning of his Targaryen parentage, fear it is theirs. Then comes in a rescued and very pregnant Yara with her Greyjoy/Greyjoy baby.

Gilly, meanwhile is all "Nothing to see over here! Right, Sam's daddy, Sam?! Right??!!!!!"
Oh, and I'm calling it now. Daenerys will be killed by fire. She will assume she cannot be, and that will be her downfall.
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Sep 8th, '17, 14:56 #22

I love the idea of ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS being killed by fire.
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Sep 8th, '17, 15:04 #23

I don't think Yara will get pregnant by Euron. I think that was an idea that wormed its way into the spoilers from those fake leaks by that dragonwolf person, but was never going to happen. I also didn't necessarily take what Euron said to Yara during the parade as foreshadowing that he was going to rape her, just him being gross as usual. I might be wrong, and I wouldn't put it past Euron the character to do that, but I'm not sure whether the show will be going there.

But I've been starting to suspect whether Cersei will give the child off to the NK in exchange for safety/alliance. Maybe the thing will be the parallel between Jon/ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS and Cersei. Both will be given the chance to give up their incest child for peace and how easily Cersei is willing to go along with it compared to Jon/ICE QUEEN dAEnaRYS. That doesn't explain why they wrote in a miscarriage, though. If they were planning for this all along, then they wouldn't have written that in.

ETA: Also, question. Do we know how many Necromancers there are? Including the NK? I was wondering whether there are as many Necromancers as Valyrian steel weapons and working on this crack theory that each person with a VS weapon would kill one Necromancer.
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Sep 8th, '17, 17:52 #24

wrote: That doesn't explain why they wrote in a miscarriage, though.
Did they mean to write the walking up in blood to be a nothing burger cliff hanger? That it would get the audience speculating as to her death or a miscarriage, and then S8 would roll around and the first thing we hear from King's Landing is Qyborn telling Cersei to take it easy or that she has to remain on bed rest.

That brings me to another crackpot theory:

Cersei will be killed, and Qyborn will go ape sh*t and resurrect her. It's this version of Cersei that Jaime mercy kills.
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Sep 8th, '17, 20:26 #25

I don't agree with the apeshit. I think he is poisoning her and planning to turn her.

My theory, that I will cling to with my cold DISCO hands, Winterfell falls.
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