Pope as Anti-Christ

Pope as Anti-Christ

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June 29th, 2017, 3:01 am #1

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June 29th, 2017, 4:00 am #2

for Christ, but still, the normal meaning in the Bible is those who oppose Christ, who are against Christ, even if they don't want to substitute for Christ. Look at 2 John 7, all those who claim that Jesus has not come in the flesh are antichrists. So this was true of some sects, already in the first century, and became prominent in the second century, they taught docetism, the doctrine that Christ only seemed to have flesh, but in reality had no flesh, because flesh is evil. So he only seemed to suffer on the cross, but he was spirit, so he felt no pain. He simply did not come in the flesh. So John pointed out that this is an evil doctrine, really opposed to Christ, so those who teach it are opposed to Christ, they are antichrists.
On the other hand, the popes have historically preached the gospel, regardless if they were personally saved or not. So they did not oppose Christ, were not antichrists. They might be living in sin, but they still preached Christ. Similarly EVM, though he lives in sin, in luxury, in a mansion, he still preaches Christ.
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June 29th, 2017, 10:51 am #3

to render religious reverence and homage to.

to feel an adoring reverence or regard for (any person or thing).

These definitions definitely describe the INC attitude towards E.V. Manalo, yet they claim they don't worship him. I would say he might be the antichrist, but he is not important or powerful enough for the role.
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June 30th, 2017, 3:13 am #4

Like all their fanciful made up and concocted stories, last messenger, angel, one true church, ends of the earth etc etc etc.


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July 7th, 2017, 5:16 am #6

the emperor Nero, whose letters add to 666. Nero was the first Roman emperor to persecute the church, and he killed two important apostles in Rome, namely Peter and Paul. So it is likely that John who wrote Revelation meant 666 to represent Nero.
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July 27th, 2017, 3:17 am #7

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July 27th, 2017, 3:34 am #8

The sign of the cross was usually done by the right hand on the body, including the forehead, so it was not on the forehead OR the right hand, it was both, so that could not have been the mark of the beast. Besides, the sign of the cross was done also by many non-Catholic Christians of that time, who were so persecuted by the Catholic Christians.
The mark of the beast is explained in verse 17-18, it is the name of a person, whose number is 666, that according to many Biblical scholars was the number of the emperor Nero. So the mark of the beast was the worship of Nero, and whoever did not want to worship him was not allowed to buy or sell. Nero was the first emperor who persecuted the Christians, killing for example Peter and Paul.
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August 4th, 2017, 3:18 am #9

the emperor Nero, whose letters add to 666. Nero was the first Roman emperor to persecute the church, and he killed two important apostles in Rome, namely Peter and Paul. So it is likely that John who wrote Revelation meant 666 to represent Nero.
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August 4th, 2017, 3:20 am #10

The sign of the cross was usually done by the right hand on the body, including the forehead, so it was not on the forehead OR the right hand, it was both, so that could not have been the mark of the beast. Besides, the sign of the cross was done also by many non-Catholic Christians of that time, who were so persecuted by the Catholic Christians.
The mark of the beast is explained in verse 17-18, it is the name of a person, whose number is 666, that according to many Biblical scholars was the number of the emperor Nero. So the mark of the beast was the worship of Nero, and whoever did not want to worship him was not allowed to buy or sell. Nero was the first emperor who persecuted the Christians, killing for example Peter and Paul.
To receive a mark in one's forehead signifies to make an open profession of belonging to that person or party whose mark is said to be received.—A Symbolical Dictionary by Charles Daubuz

Marks also in the hands or wrists, were the tokens of servitude; the heathens being wont to imprint marks upon the hands of servants, and on such as devoted themselves to some false deity.—A Symbolical Dictionary by Charles Daubuz
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