Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 26-B

Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 26-B

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Q. What are the other deceptions of Manalo incorporated in his Doctrine Lesson #26?
A. The following are his deceptions:

8."Q. What is the good fortune that await those in Christ on the Day of Judgmengt?
A. They will be resurrected first...1 Thess.4:16;
9. Q. And what will be done to those in Christ who are alive on the Day of Judgment?
A. They will be caught up together and will not die anymore...1 Thess.4:17;
10. Q. What is the promise of God to those who will be resurrected first?
A. The second death will have no power over them...Rev.20:6;
11. Q. When will the other dead be resurrected and what will be done to them?
A. After 1,000 years - they will be cast into the fire....Rev.20:5,7-10;
12. Q. Where will the members of the Church of Christ dwell and what kind of life will they lead there?
A. In the Holy City where the former things have passed away...Rev.21:1-4;
Conclusion: Therefore, our sacrifices and endurance of hardships for the sake of being members of the Church of Christ are justifiable.
13. Q. What is the responsibility of each member of the Church of Christ while waiting for the Day of Judgment?
A. He should be prepared for it...Mt.24:44;
14. Q. Why should we prepare ourselves for the Day of Judgment?
A.No one knows the day nor the hour...Mt.24:36;
15. Q. How should we prepare ourselves for the Day of Judgment?
A. We should be found in peace...1 Pet.3:14;
16. Q. What does it mean "to be found in peace"?
A. In the body or the Church...Col.3:15; 1:18;
17. Q. Thus, what is expected of us to be assured of salvation?
A. Remain until the end...Mt.24:13.
Conclusion: Whatever you will experience you should not separate from the Church of Christ. Strive that you will be found here by the time of the end so that you can be assured of salvation on the Day of Judgment.
(Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), Erano G. Manalo, 1989, pp.111-113)


8. On 1 Thess.4:16 - The good fortune that await the Church of Christ members is that they will be resurrected first?

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first." (1 Thess.4:16 NKJV)

The verse says, "the dead in Christ." Who are these dead in Christ who will be resurrected in the first resurrection? Let's read:

"that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:15-16 NKJV)

These are the true dead in Christ! They are believers of Jesus Christ! Take note that it is emphasized twice that believers of Jesus Christ are they onces who have everlasting life. Why are they called "dead in Christ"? Their bodies were united or made one with Christ through baptism by Christ with the Holy Spirit. Baptism by Christ with the Holy Spirit is effected through the words of Christ serving as water (John 3:14).

What about the Iglesia ni Cristo members? When they die, will they be dead in Christ? They won't be! They have believed another person by the name of Felix Manalo.When they die, they will be called "dead in Manalo!" If you believe not the Lord Jesus, you are condemned already (John 3:18). Therefore, instead of awaiting a good fortune, Iglesia ni Cristo members are awaiting for the lake of fire destruction. It is high time for them to leave the Iglesia cult.

9. On 1 Thess.4:17 - Those alive Church of Christ members will be caught up in the clouds?

"Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." (1 Thess.4:17 NKJV)

Who are these who are alive and remain in Christ? We are sure that these can never be those in the Church of Christ of Manalo, otherwise, the verse should have said so. Erano is as cunning as the devil to railroad the word "remain" as "remaining in the Church of Christ". Is it so? Let's get the true context of the word "remain":

"For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless, to remain in the flesh is more needful for you." (Phil.1:23-24 NKJV)

The true context of "remain" is remain in the flesh body. Apostle Paul desired to depart from his body and be with Christ but it is more needful for the Christians that Apostle Paul be still alive or remain in the flesh and be with them. As we all know Apostle Paul is now absent from his body ever since he was killed in the Year 67 A.D. as he after being killed became present in the Lord.

Therefore, those who are alive and remain in Christ are those children of God who have not yet departed their bodies. These are the ones who will be caught up in the clouds.

What will happen to the faithful Iglesia ni Cristo members who are alive when Christ comes? They are included with those who will be judged in the judgment for the living. Their judgment is they will be killed to taste the first death. Then, they will be ressurected back to life to face the second death in the lake of fire where both their resurrected bodies and their souls will be killed.

10. On Rev.20:6 - The promise of God to the Iglesia members is the second death has no more power over them?

"Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years." (Rev.20:6

These Iglesia ni Cristo members are living in a dream. They think they will be going to the Holy City when they are destined for the lake of fire. These dead in Manalo will wake up still dreaming of the promises of Felix Manalo to find out they have been conned by a con artist. It will be too late for them to find out that the sufferings they had endured in serving the Iglesia ni Cristo idol while alive is not finished yet. In this second life, they will have to endure the most extreme sufferings of them all---sufferings where their teeths will gnash due to extreme heat. What is the correct term to describe those dead in Manalo? They are among the cursed! They have been given chances to leave the Manalo cult, but, they refused to believe Jesus Christ but continued to believe the con artist.

11. On Rev.20:5,7-10 - Non Iglesia members will be cast into fire after 1,000 years were finished?

"But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. ..
Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.
They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.: (Rev.20:5,7-10 NKJV)

This is the scenario of the final killing of those deceived by Satan which unfortunately, include the Iglesia ni Cristo members who were blocked by Satan from receiving the true gospel of Christ. All Iglesia members who have immigrated to all the four corners of the earth will be gathered after resurrection and after the judgment by the great white throne, as are all members of other cults to battle the camp of the saints. This is the camp where the Lord Jesus Christ has reigned for 1,000 years. As soon as the forces of Satan that include the deceived Iglesia members are climbing the camp, after the saints are transferred into the new earth and heaven, fire from heaven rained down on the forces of evil to devour them and kill them. The fire and debris from heaven will create a raging inferno where all undistructible things will be liquified due to extreme heat. The old earth will become a lake of fire and all evil men including their souls, Lucifer and his angels, are punished and killed and disappear forever.

12. On Rev.21:1-4 - Church of Christ members will dwell in the Holy City?

"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and first earth has passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then, I John, saw the holy city New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the Tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away." (Rev.21:1-4 NKJV)

The Holy City is reserved for those in Christ, or believers of Christ, or those baptized by Christ with the Holy Spirit. What is the counterpart of the Holy City? It is called the Hell City! Which people are reserved to dwell in the Hell City? All those who are believers of other names other than Jesus Christ (John 3:18). To name a few, the following will dwell in the Hell City: Believers of Felix Y. Manalo, believers of Erano G. Manalo, believers of Sun Myung Moon, believes of Charles Russell, believers of Ellen G.White, etc.

Condition in the Hell City

The number one tenant in the Hell City is no other than the devil who is the master of those whom he had deceived. All those that the devil had devoured will also become tenants in the Hell City. In the Hell City, there will be no one to wipe the tears of anyone as each one is having non stop tears. Iglesia ni Cristo members will be crying why they were easily fooled by Felix Y. Manalo with his satanic lies. They will be crying non stop for the many sacrifices that got wasted in serving the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo who is actually a fraudulent savior. It is too late for them. And in the Hell City, there is still death awaiting, which is, the second death in the lake of fire. And they are all in this quagmire as the hot lake is beginning to rise up and up and there is no escape.

13. On Matt.24:44 - The responsibility of Church of Christ members while waiting for the second coming of Christ is prepare for it?

"Therefore, you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." (matt.24:44 NKJV)

It is true that the Son of Man will come at an unexpected hour. Everyone must prepare in order to be ready. The trouble is, there are two kinds of preparation. One kind is preparation by the evil servant, and another kind is preparation by the faithful servant. What kind of preparation does the Iglesia ni Cristo have? Let's read:

"Who then is the faithful servant and wise servant, when his master made ruler over his household to give their food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over his goods. but if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,' and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matt.24:45-51 NKJV)

Based on the verses, the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo is the evil servant. Why? The Iglesia ni Cristo practices beatings of its members! Every worship days on Thursdays and Sundays are beating days of members. Members get beaten for not doing their duties of propagating their memembership in order to gain more people into the idol worship. Members get beaten for sleeping in the worship service. Members get beaten for not doing all the commands laid down by Manalo. Members get beaten for not increasing their thanksgivings and offerings under the guise of not uniting with the Church Administration. Officers are commanded to visit all Iglesia households to make sure that each household abounds (meaning increase) in their twice a year thanksgiving offerings in order to be united with the Central Administration. This is beating and squeezing of members plain and simple. If you beat your fellow servant, it is equivalent to saying, "Anyway, the Lord Jesus Christ is not coming as yet so I have time to beat my fellow servants." What will happen to the evil servant? According to the verse, when the master comes, the evil servant will be cut in two and his portion is with the hypocrites. Manalo belongs to the hypocrites. He is telling his Iglesia members to prepare, but, he is not preparing. He continues to beat his fellow servants. Of course, the evil servant will soon be weeping and gnashing his teeth.

14. On Matt.24:36 - The reason why we must prepare is we don't know the day and hour of Judgment Day?

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." (Matt.24:36 NKJV)

Manalo, the hypocrite, is teaching that no one knows of the day of the judgment, but he himself is not preparing. He continues to enforce the worship of the INC idol. Idol worship is hated by God. He continues to scam the monies of members. He continues to do the buying and seeling of members' souls. Mebers's souls are his commodities (Rev.18:13). He constantly tells members, "Do not exchange your INC memberships or else you souls will go to hell!" He teaches, "Do not be absent in our Thursday and Sunday worship services or else, you will be cursed by God!" He scolds, "Do not listen to any lies about the Iglesia ni Cristo or else, Satan will take away your salvation!" Therefore, Erano Manalo is engage in the buying and selling of souls.

15. On 2 Pet.3:14 - How to prepare the Day of Judgment is to be found in peace?

"Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found in peace, without spot and blameless." ( 2 Pet.3:14 NKJV)

Are Iglesia ni Cristo members found in peace? They are not! They are in constant fear of their INC idol. Try to hold them the whole day of Thursday and Sunday and you will witness their great fear of their INC idol. No one can hold them on those days. Not their jobs, not their friends, not their relatives, not anyone or anything in this world is able to hold them back from going to their chapels to worship their INC idol. If you hold them for 24 hours on these days of their worship, get a stethoscope and hear the snarlings of their hearts and anxiousness to get out and ran to the nearest Iglesia chapels. Therefore, these Iglesia members are not at peace. They are in turmoil inside and outside.

16. On Col.3:15 and Col.1:18 - The meaning of "being in peace" is to be a member of the Church of Christ?

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body, and be thankful." (Col.3:15 NKJV)

"And He is the head of the body, the church...," (Col.1:18 NKJV)

Tailor Erano Manalo has sewn the two verses together in order to make a one-size-fits-all uniform for all his cult members. Did the two verses ever mentioned the Church of Christ? No! So, how did he magically produced Church of Christ from the verses? He says the one body in which the Iglesia ni Cristo members are called in, is the church or Church of Christ. Erano is not scared at all of changing the Holy Scriptures! He converted "church" into "Church of Christ".

How in the world do these Iglesia members have peace by becoming Church of Christ members? It is through tricks and scarings by Manalo. He tricks them the Church of Christ is the body of Jesus Christ when it is not! Which is the real body of Jesus Christ? Let's read:

"Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually." (1 Cor.12:27 NKJV)

Therefore, the body of Jesus Christ are the individual members. It is not the Church of Christ of Manalo organization. What is the characteristic of these individual members who represent the body of Jesus Christ? Their characteristic is they have different function (Rom.12:4). Do Iglesia members have different function? No! All members have the same function of inviting people to their Bible deception studies. All members have the same function of giving twice a year increasing thanksgiving offerings. All members have the same function of gong to their chapels to worship their INC idol. All members have the same function of giving monies irrespective of whether you are babies, infants, toddlers, male or female, black, brown, or white, sick or strong, employed or unemployed, poor or rich. What about if Erano reasons out that members also have different functions such as deacons, binhi, kadiwa, buklod, etc.? Let's read the verse if ever it did say that members can have different as well as same functions:

"For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another." (Rom.12:4 NKJV)

The slick devil is caught in his tricks! The verse says, "BUT ALL THE MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME FUNCTION..." so, why is Erano giving the same function to all members? His cult belongs to the devil, that's why. The devil does not stand in the truth (John 8:44). So also is Erano. What is another surefire proof that Iglesia ni Cristo members can not be the body of Jesus Christ? According to the verse, the individual members who are the body of Christ are also individual members of one another! Can any member joining the Iglesia ni Cristo become a member of the body of the minister who indoctrinates them? No! Only membership in the Iglesia ni Cristo is allowed. In the Iglesia ni Cristo, you can not join the body or become a member of Brother Joe Ventilacion or Brother Bienvenido Santiago or Sister Cristina V. Manalo, wife of Erano. Probably, if you want to become a member of Sister Cristina, that is the only time when Erano will disfellowship or expel you from his Iglesia cult. Therefore, neither the Iglesia ni Cristo sole corporation nor the Iglesia members can be the body of Jesus Christ.


"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me, you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulations; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." (John 16:33 NKJV)

The peace is in Jesus Christ. It is never in the Church of Christ of Manalo. What is the invitation of Jesus Christ to all especially the deceived Iglesia members? Let's read:

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls for My yoke is easy and My burden is light." (Matt.11:28-30 NKJV)

The invitation of Lord Jesus Christ is to come to Him. It is addressed to those who labor and are heavy laden. Who are these who are heavily laden with work? These are the Iglesia ni Cristo members! They are required by their Manalo master to work, work, work, and money deposit, money deposit, money deposit! If you have an obligation to pay, such as car loan, or mortgage loan, you pay in monthly installments with definite number of years, such as five years for a car and 10 to 30 years for a house, but, Manalo's burden is heavier than these. He requires you to deposit monies weekly not for 5 years not for 10 years, not for 30 years, but throughout your entire lifetime! And it is done weekly not monthly payments. And you didn't have a car or a house but only a promise written in the sand that he can erase anytime he wants. Therefore, is Manalo's burden a light burden or a heavy burden? It is the heaviest burden on the face of the earth.

Therefore, Iglesia members are invited by Lord Jesus to come to Him because they are heavily laden and they are not at peace. In Jesus Christ, there is peace. In Jesus Christ, the yoke is easy and the burden is light. Jesus Christ is gentle and has a lowly heart. What about in Erano Manalo? Is Erano gentle when he drags members to go out the streets to get visitors to have new converts? Does Erano has a lowly heart when he exalts himself like God and answers to no one? Is Erano gentle when he commands his deacons to round up worship service escapees? Therefore, Church of Christ of Manalo members do not have rest because they are living under a totalitarian and authoritarian regime. Iglesia members are virtually slaves of Manalo.

17. On Matt. 24:13 - What is expected of all Iglesia ni Cristo members is to remain as Church of ?Christ members until the end?

"But he who endures to the end shall be saved." (Matt.24:13 NKJV)

Erano has changed the verse. Who shall be saved according to the verse? Is it, he who remained in the Church of Christ, or, is it, he who endures to the end? It is the latter. Does it mean that there will be children of God who can not endure and will not be saved? No! The Apostles teach that children of God are able to endure. Let's read:

"And we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul." (Heb.10:39 NKJV)

Therefore, all children of God endure. Which is to be endured? We have to know this because Manalo has his own agenda of things to endure by Iglesia members that come from his father's gospel book. Let's read the things to endure:

"And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved." (Mark 13:13 NKJV)

What is to be endured is the hatings by non Christians. Christians are hated because of Jesus Christ's name. Do non Christians such as the Muslims or the Manalowians (members of the INC of Manalo) hate very much the Christians (Cztholics and Protestants or Evangelicals)? Absolutely! If these non Christians are given the chance to rule the world, it will be the return of the dark days of inquisition where the Catholics and Protestants will be torched at the stakes. To these non Christians, there is no religious freedom. To the Muslims, the true religion is their Muslim faith. To the Manalowians, the true religion is their Manalo faith.


The command by Manalo not to separate from the Church of Christ is equivalent to nailing the coffins shut of all Iglesia ni Cristo members. The command to continue to believe Felix Manalo is the devil's weapon that serves as a barricade so that members will never believe the true Savior Jesus Christ. The Church of Christ of Manalo is a weed planted by the devil to spread works of darkness so that the people whom they victimize will not see the light. There is no salvation in the Church of Christ name but only in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts 4:10-12).


1. Which of the following works done is not required by God?
( )a. Sister Zeny makes her thanksgiving deposits every Sunday before she attends the worship service;
( )b. Sister Amy lends her shoulder as crying cradle for Sister Dina's head whose husband just died;
( )c. Sister Betty gave blankets to a homeless man sleeping at the corner of Lullaby Street.

2. Which of the following works done is required by God?
( )a. Brother Danny can not be hampered from attending the Thursday and Sunday worship services.
( )b. Brother Charlie always brings visitors to the weekly Bible Expositions. He brings also foods and snacks for the visitors so that they will come back and hopefully enroll in the Bible Studies.
( )c. Brother Tom says, "I believe Jesus Christ and accept Him as my personal Savior!"

3. Which of the following persons are not eligible to be saved by God? Why?
( )a. Alan, a sinner;
( )b. Church of Christ, the daugther of Zion?
( )c. Manny, the male prostitute.

4. What is the will of the Father in order to enter the kingdom of God?
( )a. Become a member of the Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo and not exchanging your membership no matter what will happen;
( )b. Not to forsake the worship service and not to forget attending the committee prayer hours, the family prayer hour, because in those hours, we receive the foods for our souls;
( )c. To see Jesus Christ, to believe Him, and to be assured of salvation.

5. How far away is the end of the world?
( )a. After 1,000 years after the second coming of Jesus Christ;
( )b. When Christ comes will be the end of the world;
( )c. Approximately 10 years from now or in the Year 2013.

6. What judgment is it when those alive who are ungodly will suffer their first deaths in mass killings?
( )a. In the judgment for the living;
( )b. In the judgment for the dead;
( )c. Neither a or b.

7. What judgment is it when those dead who are ungodly will be resurrected back to life to face the great white throne?
( )a. In the judgment for the living;
( )b. In the judgment for the dead;
( )c. Neither a or b.

8. Is there a sign mentioned by the Lord Jesus Christ that the Iglesia ni Cristo leader prays would not be read by anyone? What is it?
( )a. Yes -- the sign of the arrival of false christs coming in the name of Christ who will deceive many;
( )b. Yes -- the sign of wars and rumors of wars;
( )c. No -- there is no sign being kept by the Iglesia ni Cristo leader.

9. Will faithful Church of Christ (of Manalo) members be saved on the Day of Judgment? Why?
( )a. Yes, because they listened to God's command to enter the Church of Christ;
( )b. Yes, because they are in Christ;
( )c. No, because their Scripture support is fraudulent.

10. Who are the people who are in Christ?
( )a. They are they who are members of the Church of Christ (of Manalo);
( )b. They are they who were given by God to Christ and became believers of Jesus Christ;
( )c. They are they who did not give chance to the devil to devour them because they are always busy in serving God by attending all the activities in the Church of Christ from morning till night. They remained in the Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo until they died.

11. Rommel, a faithful Church of Christ or Iglesia member had died before the Iglesia ni Cristo thanksgiving day. Will Rommel be included in the first resurrection? Why?
( )a. Yes. He is considered as dead in Christ;
( )b. Yes. He is faithful and obedient servant;
( )c. No. He is considered as dead in Manalo.

12. Donald, a faithful Church of Christ member was alive and remained member in the Church of Christ of Manalo at the second coming of Jesus Christ. Will Donald be caught up to the clouds to meet the Lord Jesus and the saints so that where Jesus will be, there Donald shall be?
( )a. Yes. It is the promise of Jesus that those alive and remained in the Church of Christ will meet the Lord in the air;
( )b. No. Donald will not be caught up in the clouds because He is not a believer of Jesus Christ but a believer of Felix Manalo.
( )c. Yes. Donald is lucky to be caught up in the clouds because he received that teaching from the gospel of Christ.

13. Which of the following servants visiting Yuri has evil preparation for the coming of the Lord? Why?
( )a. Minister Mack who came to fellow servant Yuri who is starving due to extended unemployment, lectured Yuri using the Bible why he is suffering is due to Yuri's non attendance in the Iglesia worships. Minister Mack has the conviction that words of God is a food that can give life;
( )b. Brother Ritchie next visited Yuri and did not touch about his non attendance in his INC church worships but freely offered to lend him P5,000 without interest so that Yuri can buy what he needs. Brother Ritchie before leaving gave Yuri a Bible;
( )c. Sister Sonia, a neighbor, next visited Yuri and offered a job to babysit for her two toodlers for P2,000 pesos each a week.

14. Which of the above servants visiting Yuri has faithful preparation for the coming of the Lord?
( )a. Minister Mack;
( )b. Brother Ritchie or Sister Sonia;
( )c. Neither a or b.

15. Where can one have peace?
( )a. In the Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo;
( )b. In Jesus Christ;
( )c. In God's messenger in these last days, who is no other than Brother Felix Y. Manalo.

16. What is the reason why the Church of Christ (or the INC)is not the body of Jesus Christ?
( )a. Man, you are wrong. The Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo is the body of Jesus Christ according to the Apostles;
( )b. The Church of Christ is the body of Jesus Christ because Christ purchased it with His blood;
( )c. The Church of Christ is not the body of Jesus Christ because all its members have the same function. The true body of Jesus Christ do not have the same function.

17. Who will have everlasting life and are assured of going to the Holy City? In contrast, who will be assured of going to Hell City?
( )a. All the believers of Jesus Christ will have everlasting life and will go to the Holy City while believers of other names such as Felix Manalo will go to Hell City;
( )b. All those who endured the hatings due to the Church of Christ's name will have eternal life and will go to Holy City. Those who have not become members of the Church of Christ will go to Hell City.
( )c. Nither a or b.

1) a, 2) c, 3) b, (has no soul) 4) c, 5) a, 6)a, 7) b,
8) a, 9) c, 10) b, 11) c, 12) b, 13) a, 14) b, 15) b,
16) c, 17) a.


Joined: May 16th, 2013, 8:16 pm

August 13th, 2017, 2:39 am #2

EVM had ordered for its destruction. This expose is causing thousands of Binhi to separate from EVM's INC.

Joined: November 10th, 2012, 1:03 am

August 14th, 2017, 2:52 am #3

in hell for the unsaved. That is not a biblical doctrine, but a doctrine adopted by the Catholic church from paganism, and many other churches inherited it ultimately from the Catholic church, and Islam did too. The Bible is clear that those who reject Christ will be destroyed, for example John 3:16. They will burn up in the lake of fire, and become ashes, Mal. 4:3. And plenty of other verses prove it. So no such thing as souls all being immortal. Of course God is not some cruel sadistic person who would want some to suffer in hell for ever. People who believe like that are really defaming God, even though they claim God is good.
Likewise you are unwittingly defaming God, making God look very unjust and unfair, when you claim that those who die unsaved, as you claim all INC members will, cannot have an opportunity to become saved after they are resurrected. During the millennium, when Mt. Zion will be the highest mountain, people of all nations will be coming to Mt. Zion to be instructed by God and learn his ways, see Is. 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3. Some will learn righteousness, but the wicked will not learn righteousness, Is. 26:9-10. So it is the wicked who will not repent and become saved during the millennium, and they will be thrown in the lake of fire and burn up. I know many Christians teach no salvation after death, including the INC, but they are unwittingly defaming God, presenting him as unjust and unfair. Were my parents wicked because they died unsaved? They definitely were not. So when Christ comes back and they are resurrected, I expect they will welcome the chance to become saved, and they will repent of their sins.
So, please, I urge you to stop defaming God, like INC does, and Catholics do, and many other Christians do, so sadly, it is an obstacle in bringing people to Christ. I know you do not mean to defame God, but in effect, you do.

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August 15th, 2017, 3:54 pm #4

Looks like you are a closet INC member as you are hurt every time INC is under close examination.

I agree that cessation of life is not the end of all because Christ visits and preaches to the spirits in prison for possible conversion (1 Pet. 3:19).

Tomas, will you defame God telling the truth those who do not believe Jesus Christ(on earth and under the earth) are condemned already as spoken in Jn.3:18?

Are you really sincere that the Church of Christ of EVM is defaming God for teaching non INC members will go to hell?

Joined: November 10th, 2012, 1:03 am

August 16th, 2017, 11:30 pm #5

preached to the evil spirits, fallen angels, at least those who were locked in the prison for having been so disobedient and evil in the time of Noah, producing so much evil among people in that time. Those spirits can't repent. So it is not like W. Dankenbring of Triumph Prophetic Ministries teaches that all angels sin and some repent. The good angels do not sin, and the evil angels can't repent. So Dankenbring is totally wrong about this, just like he is wrong about some other doctrines. Though at least Dankenbring does not defame God, does not teach God would be so cruel as to cause some to suffer forever, and does not teach that nobody can repent after death.
John 3:18 teaches correctly that those who do not believe (it does not say under the earth) are condemned already, and so was I condemned before I was converted, before I believed (and repented of course). All Christians were condemned before they believed. So likewise those who will come to believe after they are resurrected (as Dankenbring and others teach correctly) will no longer be condemned.
And certainly INC is unwittingly defaming God by teaching that those who die and are not in INC will go to hell. Many outside INC are saved already. I am outside INC and I am saved already. But INC is unwittingly defaming God already when they preach eternal suffering in the lake of fire, and when they teach that nobody will be converted after death. And many other Christians are similarly defaming God with such doctrines. Including even the Baptist church which I am attending. They have many good doctrines, but they are totally wrong about these two doctrines.

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August 17th, 2017, 10:14 am #6

"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison." (1 Pet. 3:19 KJV)

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August 18th, 2017, 6:21 am #7

by which they will be sentenced to death in the lake of fire and destroyed there. And about the fact that they will continue to be imprisoned in the prison until the great white throne judgment, so they can't tempt people like they tempted them at the time of Noah, they can't cause any damage to people, they can cause damage only to each other in the prison. After all, since they are fallen angels, they can't repent.