ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

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June 20th, 2012, 10:57 pm #1

ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

The first part of this post will discuss the evidence, which leads to the headline's conclusion. The second part will discuss predictions surrounding the bigger Onelovestory picture.

PART 1. The Evidence.

On July 4, 2011, Vince Power announced the following:

"For those of you who remember the Phoenix Festival, it's my intention to resurrect this festival next year as Glastonbury is taking a break."

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a3 ... -says.html

Vince Power's organization owns http://thephoenixfestival.com . That page links to a Twitter and Facebook page for the 2012 Phoenix Festival.

The web page also states, "THE PHOENIX FESTIVAL RETURNETH, ARE YOU READY?" But there is no date or location listed. The page is registered to "Kent Festival Ltd" by Bev Burton. She is in charge of booking bands for Vince Power. http://www.whois.com/whois/thephoenixfestival.com

The Official Twitter states, "More information regarding The Phoenix Festival 2012 will be coming soon....." https://twitter.com/#!/thephoenixfest

This leads one to believe that The Phoenix Festival will actually return in 2012.

On July 5, 2011, a person named Warren Davies purchased http://phoenixfestival.co.uk .

The registration is here http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... ival.co.uk

Warren Davies does not appear to be affiliated with Vince Power, but the registration follows Power's July 4th 2011 announcement by one day, appearing on July 5th, 2011.

On November 4, 2011, I suggested, on the "I Am Without Shoes Too" forum (IAWS2), that The Stone Roses might play a secret gig on April 1, 2012. But on the headline to that post, I suffered a typo that indicated the gig would be April 1, 2011, which had already passed.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... +1%2C+2011+-

Later that night, I became discouraged about the typo and lost faith in the prediction, repealing it the next morning, Nov. 5, 2011.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... prediction...

Three days later, The Stone Roses posted two images at their official Facebook. Both images contain their name spray painted on walls. But one of the images contained a mysterious spray painted number, "602427". The wall the number is sprayed on has a sign above the number which reads,

"PRIVATE LAND
NO PARKING"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

This appeared - to me - as a response to my failed prediction. I felt as if the Roses were sending a message back to me, but I simply did not have any faith left at this time. And I turned my back on it.

One day later, Nov. 9, 2011, on the IAWS2 forum, "Larry Mullen" posted a link to http://phoenixfestival.co.uk . And by this time, that site (owned by Warren Davies) had updated its page with the lemon that has been on Reni's kick drums (as well as the official Roses Twitter). Beneath the lemon is a question mark. The image leads to an email (info@phoenixfestival.co.uk).

IAWS2 poster "Morgan" then responded (later on Nov. 9, 2011) to Larry Mullen with a header that read, "602 427..." The text of that response stated that 602 427 "...is a Phoenix zip code, so presumably they are booked to headline given the cryptic graffiti on the .org website."

The discussion of the number's meaning as referring to it being an area code in Phoenix, Arizona was also contemplated by various people at the Roses Facebook. Morgan was wrong about it being a zip code. 602-427 is, in fact, an area code and phone exchange unique to Phoenix, Arizona.

The IAWS2 discussion assumed that phoenixfestival.co.uk was an official site. But there's no evidence that it is. It's not registered to Kent Festival Ltd as thephoenixfestival.com site is.

It was possible that Warren Davies simply read Vince Power's July 4th, 2011 statement and then purchased phoenixfestival.co.uk to start a fan site. By November 9, 2011, it was common knowledge that the Roses had posted the image with "602427" at their Facebook. And if Warren Davies was aware of this, then he might have updated phoenixfestival.co.uk with the Stone Roses lemon and "?" to capitalize on the mystery.

There's nothing in these facts that proves The Stone Roses used "602427" to suggest they were playing The Phoenix Festival.

BUT THERE'S A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS CONTEXT, WHICH APPEARS TO POSITIVELY IMPLICATE THE STONE ROSES IN THIS PLOT.

On Nov. 6, 2011, at the Downloadfestival.co.uk forum, "ANXIETY", a veteran poster with over 3400 posts there, published the link to phoenixfestival.co.uk under the header, "Stone Roses playing Phoneix (sic) Festival?"

http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122.aspx

The thread is three pages long, and it discusses the lemon image. It also concludes with a post by "Defsteve" that includes the phoenixfestival.co.uk registry info relating to Warren Davies. http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122-p3.aspx

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE STONE ROSES IMAGE FEATURING THE NUMBER 602427 AT THE OFFICIAL STONE ROSES FACEBOOK, POSTED THERE ON NOV. 8, 2011, FOLLOWS THE APPEARANCE OF THE LEMON WITH "?" AT PHOENIXFESTIVAL.CO.UK

It's very significant that the Roses dropped the Phoenix area code/exchange related number, AFTER the lemon appears at phoenixfestival.co.uk. This implicates the Roses directly in the mystery.

Notice also that Defsteve's response to Anxiety at the Downloadfestival forum indicates that on the date of his reply, Nov. 8, 2011, the Who Is registry for phoenixfestival.co.uk showed that it had not been updated since it was purchased on July 5th, 2011. But currently the Who Is registry indicates it was updated by Nov. 11, 2011. Since the lemon was spotted on Nov. 6, 2011, we can assume that the lemon was added around that time, and that the registry didn't reflect the update until Nov. 11, 2011. It does not appear that the site has changed since Nov. 6, 2011, based upon the comments in the Download Festival forum thread.

So what does this tell us? It tells us that The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. Unless, of course, you believe the Roses are fans of Warren Davies playing along to his charade. They aren't. And there's more evidence as well.

Leading up to the May 23, 2012 free, secret Warrington gig, I had been predicting that the Roses would play a secret gig in Manchester prior to Barcelona. I was sure of this prediction because of their October 18, 2011 press conference, wherein they promised to return in Manchester. I was right on the secret gig being free, but was wrong on the location. And I again lost faith in the Roses, slamming them for having security confiscate cameras, and for not returning in Manchester. It freaked me out and I gave up. I was angry and I lost faith. I thought the Roses had lied and I said so. They promised to return in Manchester, but didn't. I was wrong though.

The Stone Roses did return in Manchester when John Squire and Ian Brown played "Elizabeth My Dear" for the Justice Tonight gig in Manchester. I got it wrong. After I realized my error, I apologized. My faith in Onelovestory returned and I began to look more closely at the evidence.

CHRONOLOGY RECAP

July 4, 2011, Vince Power announces plans to "resurrect" The Phoenix Festival
July 5, 2011, Warren Davies registers http://phoenixfestival.co.uk
Nov. 4, 2011, Burnweed announces possibility of secret Stone Roses gig
Nov. 5, 2011, Burnweed retracts suggestion of secret gig
Nov. 6, 2001, the official lemon badge of The Stone Roses is discovered at http://phoenixfestival.co.uk with a "?" below it
Nov. 8, 2011, the Stone Roses post an image featuring the number "602427" at their Facebook
Nov. 9, 2011, 602 427 is revealed to be an area code and exchange for Phoenix, Arizona
May 23, 2012, The Stone Roses play secret free gig where Ian Brown wears t-shirt of poster for Phoenix Park gig
July 5, 2012, The Stone Roses will play Phoenix Park gig on the one year anniversary of Davies registering http://phoenixfestival.co.uk

MORE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

On May 23, 2012, at the free Warrington gig, Ian Brown wore a t-shirt featuring the poster for the Phoenix Park gig in Dublin. This is a multi-facetted clue.

1. The t-shirt has "Phoenix" in it.

2. The Phoenix Park gig in Dublin is on July 5th, 2012, exactly one year from when Warren Davies registered phoenixfestival.co.uk on July 5th, 2011.

3. Since Warrington was secret and free, Ian's wearing the t-shirt that night appears to be a clue that The Phoenix Festival will be secret and free.

4. The Nov. 8, 2011 image posted at the Roses Facebook with "602427" also includes a sign above the number that states, "PRIVATE LAND" and below that it states "NO PARKING". Like Heaton Park, Phoenix Park is a public park. The Nov. 8th image indicates that the secret gig will be on private land, and therefore Phoenix Park is not being referenced.

Additionally, at The Stone Roses official website - http://www.thestoneroses.org - every gig on their current tour is listed, followed by an "Info" link. Every one of those links, EXCEPT for Phoenix Park, goes to either the box office for that gig, or to an official festival web site. The Phoenix Park "Info" button leads to the official web page for Phoenix Park - http://www.phoenixpark.ie/about - where the Roses gig is not even mentioned by name. The calendar simply lists "concert" for July 5th. And there's no way to buy tickets. The Stone Roses aren't mentioned there at all. They could have linked to the Box Office for the Phoenix Park gig -http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/1800478F94AF5E93 - but they didn't, while they did for every other gig.

Were it not for the button leading to the park's website from the Roses site, we would not understand the "Private Land" reference.

"No parking" also indicates the gig won't be in a park.

So there you have it. There's not a doubt in my mind The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. The above evidence takes that prediction from conjecture to reality.

Now let's turn to conjecture on the rest of the story.

CONJECTURE/PREDICTIONS

1. I believe a free secret festival is going to happen. Perhaps there will be a nominal charge for either charity, or to cover expenses, but I cannot see this being a "for profit" gig in any way, shape or form.

2. Oasis will play this festival. Clashmusic.com reported on the June 8th Barcelona gig as follows: "Liam Gallagher watched the show from the sound desk, and was given a shout out by Ian Brown. '2012 is the year of the comeback,' the frontman said from the stage. 'And there is a man at the back who knows all about that'. I do not believe The Stone Roses or Oasis ever really broke up, and the truth of that claim will be revealed at The Phoenix Festival.

3. Reni's cryptic comment to John Robb and the NME, Not before 9T will I wear the hat 4 the Roses again. Reni hasn't worn the hat "for the Roses" yet. He's been wearing something that looks like fake dreads. This is a clue that Robbie Maddix was in on the hoax the whole time. Reni did put a bucket hat on after one of their gigs, as it was thrown to him by a fan as they were taking their bows, but that's not wearing the hat "for the Roses", which I assume means playing a gig with the famous Reni hat. http://louderthanwar.com/reni-quote-on- ... ore-stuff/

4. T = the 9th letter in ONELOVESTORY. I don't know if this is what 9T refers to, but I do believe the secret location and/or date(s) of The Phoenix Festival might be revealed in the official posters for each gig. I do not have this aspect/cipher cracked yet. I do not even know for sure that there is a cipher embedded in those posters.

I'm asking for your help on this.

I have spotted a pattern on the first poster, the one for Heaton Park. The poster indicates a pattern where two letters of the same color bookend a letter of a different color. This happens with the light blue "E" in the first line. Then it happens with the "H" and the "E" in the third line, as well as the "S" and the "E" in the fifth line.

If you watch the press conference for the Roses return at their official Youtube page, the intro (with IWBA playing) is composed of four "scenes". Scene 1 is a close up on the pattern discussed regarding the first line on the poster. Scene 2 is a close up on the pattern from the third line. Scene 3 is a close up on the pattern form the fifth line. And Scene 4 is a pan out to the entire poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os&feature=plcp

The video repeats for part 2 of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE&feature=plcp

5. Until this secret festival happens, and the Roses (plus Oasis) reveal the tapestry they have been collaborating upon for so many years, the hoax continues. The incident in Amsterdam recently where Ian Brown hit Reni with a terrible insult was pure theater. The hoax continued. The Stone Roses never broke up. They have been mates, and the same band all the while. They wrote most of "What's The Story Morning Glory" for Oasis, and that will also be revealed.

Who knows what else will come out.

As you wonder why a band would conduct their career this way, just keep the word "art" nearby. The canvas of The Stone Roses is truly supernatural. Take note that all of the gig posters appear, like the artwork for "Second Coming", to be painted on a canvas.

"In mythology, a phoenix is an immortal bird that, when it dies, bursts into flames and is reborn from its own ashes. "To rise from the ashes of the phoenix" means to make a miraculous comeback."http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_'Rise_from_the_ashes_of_the_Phoenix'_mean

Peace and Love

Jet Wintzer aka Burnweed - June 20, 2012

@BurnweedOLS on Twitter







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June 20th, 2012, 11:56 pm #2

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ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

The first part of this post will discuss the evidence, which leads to the headline's conclusion. The second part will discuss predictions surrounding the bigger Onelovestory picture.

PART 1. The Evidence.

On July 4, 2011, Vince Power announced the following:

"For those of you who remember the Phoenix Festival, it's my intention to resurrect this festival next year as Glastonbury is taking a break."

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a3 ... -says.html

Vince Power's organization owns http://thephoenixfestival.com . That page links to a Twitter and Facebook page for the 2012 Phoenix Festival.

The web page also states, "THE PHOENIX FESTIVAL RETURNETH, ARE YOU READY?" But there is no date or location listed. The page is registered to "Kent Festival Ltd" by Bev Burton. She is in charge of booking bands for Vince Power. http://www.whois.com/whois/thephoenixfestival.com

The Official Twitter states, "More information regarding The Phoenix Festival 2012 will be coming soon....." https://twitter.com/#!/thephoenixfest

This leads one to believe that The Phoenix Festival will actually return in 2012.

On July 5, 2011, a person named Warren Davies purchased http://phoenixfestival.co.uk .

The registration is here http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... ival.co.uk

Warren Davies does not appear to be affiliated with Vince Power, but the registration follows Power's July 4th 2011 announcement by one day, appearing on July 5th, 2011.

On November 4, 2011, I suggested, on the "I Am Without Shoes Too" forum (IAWS2), that The Stone Roses might play a secret gig on April 1, 2012. But on the headline to that post, I suffered a typo that indicated the gig would be April 1, 2011, which had already passed.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... +1%2C+2011+-

Later that night, I became discouraged about the typo and lost faith in the prediction, repealing it the next morning, Nov. 5, 2011.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... prediction...

Three days later, The Stone Roses posted two images at their official Facebook. Both images contain their name spray painted on walls. But one of the images contained a mysterious spray painted number, "602427". The wall the number is sprayed on has a sign above the number which reads,

"PRIVATE LAND
NO PARKING"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

This appeared - to me - as a response to my failed prediction. I felt as if the Roses were sending a message back to me, but I simply did not have any faith left at this time. And I turned my back on it.

One day later, Nov. 9, 2011, on the IAWS2 forum, "Larry Mullen" posted a link to http://phoenixfestival.co.uk . And by this time, that site (owned by Warren Davies) had updated its page with the lemon that has been on Reni's kick drums (as well as the official Roses Twitter). Beneath the lemon is a question mark. The image leads to an email (info@phoenixfestival.co.uk).

IAWS2 poster "Morgan" then responded (later on Nov. 9, 2011) to Larry Mullen with a header that read, "602 427..." The text of that response stated that 602 427 "...is a Phoenix zip code, so presumably they are booked to headline given the cryptic graffiti on the .org website."

The discussion of the number's meaning as referring to it being an area code in Phoenix, Arizona was also contemplated by various people at the Roses Facebook. Morgan was wrong about it being a zip code. 602-427 is, in fact, an area code and phone exchange unique to Phoenix, Arizona.

The IAWS2 discussion assumed that phoenixfestival.co.uk was an official site. But there's no evidence that it is. It's not registered to Kent Festival Ltd as thephoenixfestival.com site is.

It was possible that Warren Davies simply read Vince Power's July 4th, 2011 statement and then purchased phoenixfestival.co.uk to start a fan site. By November 9, 2011, it was common knowledge that the Roses had posted the image with "602427" at their Facebook. And if Warren Davies was aware of this, then he might have updated phoenixfestival.co.uk with the Stone Roses lemon and "?" to capitalize on the mystery.

There's nothing in these facts that proves The Stone Roses used "602427" to suggest they were playing The Phoenix Festival.

BUT THERE'S A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS CONTEXT, WHICH APPEARS TO POSITIVELY IMPLICATE THE STONE ROSES IN THIS PLOT.

On Nov. 6, 2011, at the Downloadfestival.co.uk forum, "ANXIETY", a veteran poster with over 3400 posts there, published the link to phoenixfestival.co.uk under the header, "Stone Roses playing Phoneix (sic) Festival?"

http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122.aspx

The thread is three pages long, and it discusses the lemon image. It also concludes with a post by "Defsteve" that includes the phoenixfestival.co.uk registry info relating to Warren Davies. http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122-p3.aspx

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE STONE ROSES IMAGE FEATURING THE NUMBER 602427 AT THE OFFICIAL STONE ROSES FACEBOOK, POSTED THERE ON NOV. 8, 2011, FOLLOWS THE APPEARANCE OF THE LEMON WITH "?" AT PHOENIXFESTIVAL.CO.UK

It's very significant that the Roses dropped the Phoenix area code/exchange related number, AFTER the lemon appears at phoenixfestival.co.uk. This implicates the Roses directly in the mystery.

Notice also that Defsteve's response to Anxiety at the Downloadfestival forum indicates that on the date of his reply, Nov. 8, 2011, the Who Is registry for phoenixfestival.co.uk showed that it had not been updated since it was purchased on July 5th, 2011. But currently the Who Is registry indicates it was updated by Nov. 11, 2011. Since the lemon was spotted on Nov. 6, 2011, we can assume that the lemon was added around that time, and that the registry didn't reflect the update until Nov. 11, 2011. It does not appear that the site has changed since Nov. 6, 2011, based upon the comments in the Download Festival forum thread.

So what does this tell us? It tells us that The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. Unless, of course, you believe the Roses are fans of Warren Davies playing along to his charade. They aren't. And there's more evidence as well.

Leading up to the May 23, 2012 free, secret Warrington gig, I had been predicting that the Roses would play a secret gig in Manchester prior to Barcelona. I was sure of this prediction because of their October 18, 2011 press conference, wherein they promised to return in Manchester. I was right on the secret gig being free, but was wrong on the location. And I again lost faith in the Roses, slamming them for having security confiscate cameras, and for not returning in Manchester. It freaked me out and I gave up. I was angry and I lost faith. I thought the Roses had lied and I said so. They promised to return in Manchester, but didn't. I was wrong though.

The Stone Roses did return in Manchester when John Squire and Ian Brown played "Elizabeth My Dear" for the Justice Tonight gig in Manchester. I got it wrong. After I realized my error, I apologized. My faith in Onelovestory returned and I began to look more closely at the evidence.

CHRONOLOGY RECAP

July 4, 2011, Vince Power announces plans to "resurrect" The Phoenix Festival
July 5, 2011, Warren Davies registers http://phoenixfestival.co.uk
Nov. 4, 2011, Burnweed announces possibility of secret Stone Roses gig
Nov. 5, 2011, Burnweed retracts suggestion of secret gig
Nov. 6, 2001, the official lemon badge of The Stone Roses is discovered at http://phoenixfestival.co.uk with a "?" below it
Nov. 8, 2011, the Stone Roses post an image featuring the number "602427" at their Facebook
Nov. 9, 2011, 602 427 is revealed to be an area code and exchange for Phoenix, Arizona
May 23, 2012, The Stone Roses play secret free gig where Ian Brown wears t-shirt of poster for Phoenix Park gig
July 5, 2012, The Stone Roses will play Phoenix Park gig on the one year anniversary of Davies registering http://phoenixfestival.co.uk

MORE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

On May 23, 2012, at the free Warrington gig, Ian Brown wore a t-shirt featuring the poster for the Phoenix Park gig in Dublin. This is a multi-facetted clue.

1. The t-shirt has "Phoenix" in it.

2. The Phoenix Park gig in Dublin is on July 5th, 2012, exactly one year from when Warren Davies registered phoenixfestival.co.uk on July 5th, 2011.

3. Since Warrington was secret and free, Ian's wearing the t-shirt that night appears to be a clue that The Phoenix Festival will be secret and free.

4. The Nov. 8, 2011 image posted at the Roses Facebook with "602427" also includes a sign above the number that states, "PRIVATE LAND" and below that it states "NO PARKING". Like Heaton Park, Phoenix Park is a public park. The Nov. 8th image indicates that the secret gig will be on private land, and therefore Phoenix Park is not being referenced.

Additionally, at The Stone Roses official website - http://www.thestoneroses.org - every gig on their current tour is listed, followed by an "Info" link. Every one of those links, EXCEPT for Phoenix Park, goes to either the box office for that gig, or to an official festival web site. The Phoenix Park "Info" button leads to the official web page for Phoenix Park - http://www.phoenixpark.ie/about - where the Roses gig is not even mentioned by name. The calendar simply lists "concert" for July 5th. And there's no way to buy tickets. The Stone Roses aren't mentioned there at all. They could have linked to the Box Office for the Phoenix Park gig -http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/1800478F94AF5E93 - but they didn't, while they did for every other gig.

Were it not for the button leading to the park's website from the Roses site, we would not understand the "Private Land" reference.

"No parking" also indicates the gig won't be in a park.

So there you have it. There's not a doubt in my mind The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. The above evidence takes that prediction from conjecture to reality.

Now let's turn to conjecture on the rest of the story.

CONJECTURE/PREDICTIONS

1. I believe a free secret festival is going to happen. Perhaps there will be a nominal charge for either charity, or to cover expenses, but I cannot see this being a "for profit" gig in any way, shape or form.

2. Oasis will play this festival. Clashmusic.com reported on the June 8th Barcelona gig as follows: "Liam Gallagher watched the show from the sound desk, and was given a shout out by Ian Brown. '2012 is the year of the comeback,' the frontman said from the stage. 'And there is a man at the back who knows all about that'. I do not believe The Stone Roses or Oasis ever really broke up, and the truth of that claim will be revealed at The Phoenix Festival.

3. Reni's cryptic comment to John Robb and the NME, Not before 9T will I wear the hat 4 the Roses again. Reni hasn't worn the hat "for the Roses" yet. He's been wearing something that looks like fake dreads. This is a clue that Robbie Maddix was in on the hoax the whole time. Reni did put a bucket hat on after one of their gigs, as it was thrown to him by a fan as they were taking their bows, but that's not wearing the hat "for the Roses", which I assume means playing a gig with the famous Reni hat. http://louderthanwar.com/reni-quote-on- ... ore-stuff/

4. T = the 9th letter in ONELOVESTORY. I don't know if this is what 9T refers to, but I do believe the secret location and/or date(s) of The Phoenix Festival might be revealed in the official posters for each gig. I do not have this aspect/cipher cracked yet. I do not even know for sure that there is a cipher embedded in those posters.

I'm asking for your help on this.

I have spotted a pattern on the first poster, the one for Heaton Park. The poster indicates a pattern where two letters of the same color bookend a letter of a different color. This happens with the light blue "E" in the first line. Then it happens with the "H" and the "E" in the third line, as well as the "S" and the "E" in the fifth line.

If you watch the press conference for the Roses return at their official Youtube page, the intro (with IWBA playing) is composed of four "scenes". Scene 1 is a close up on the pattern discussed regarding the first line on the poster. Scene 2 is a close up on the pattern from the third line. Scene 3 is a close up on the pattern form the fifth line. And Scene 4 is a pan out to the entire poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os&feature=plcp

The video repeats for part 2 of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE&feature=plcp

5. Until this secret festival happens, and the Roses (plus Oasis) reveal the tapestry they have been collaborating upon for so many years, the hoax continues. The incident in Amsterdam recently where Ian Brown hit Reni with a terrible insult was pure theater. The hoax continued. The Stone Roses never broke up. They have been mates, and the same band all the while. They wrote most of "What's The Story Morning Glory" for Oasis, and that will also be revealed.

Who knows what else will come out.

As you wonder why a band would conduct their career this way, just keep the word "art" nearby. The canvas of The Stone Roses is truly supernatural. Take note that all of the gig posters appear, like the artwork for "Second Coming", to be painted on a canvas.

"In mythology, a phoenix is an immortal bird that, when it dies, bursts into flames and is reborn from its own ashes. "To rise from the ashes of the phoenix" means to make a miraculous comeback."http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_'Rise_from_the_ashes_of_the_Phoenix'_mean

Peace and Love

Jet Wintzer aka Burnweed - June 20, 2012

@BurnweedOLS on Twitter






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June 21st, 2012, 2:29 am #5

ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

The first part of this post will discuss the evidence, which leads to the headline's conclusion. The second part will discuss predictions surrounding the bigger Onelovestory picture.

PART 1. The Evidence.

On July 4, 2011, Vince Power announced the following:

"For those of you who remember the Phoenix Festival, it's my intention to resurrect this festival next year as Glastonbury is taking a break."

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a3 ... -says.html

Vince Power's organization owns http://thephoenixfestival.com . That page links to a Twitter and Facebook page for the 2012 Phoenix Festival.

The web page also states, "THE PHOENIX FESTIVAL RETURNETH, ARE YOU READY?" But there is no date or location listed. The page is registered to "Kent Festival Ltd" by Bev Burton. She is in charge of booking bands for Vince Power. http://www.whois.com/whois/thephoenixfestival.com

The Official Twitter states, "More information regarding The Phoenix Festival 2012 will be coming soon....." https://twitter.com/#!/thephoenixfest

This leads one to believe that The Phoenix Festival will actually return in 2012.

On July 5, 2011, a person named Warren Davies purchased http://phoenixfestival.co.uk .

The registration is here http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... ival.co.uk

Warren Davies does not appear to be affiliated with Vince Power, but the registration follows Power's July 4th 2011 announcement by one day, appearing on July 5th, 2011.

On November 4, 2011, I suggested, on the "I Am Without Shoes Too" forum (IAWS2), that The Stone Roses might play a secret gig on April 1, 2012. But on the headline to that post, I suffered a typo that indicated the gig would be April 1, 2011, which had already passed.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... +1%2C+2011+-

Later that night, I became discouraged about the typo and lost faith in the prediction, repealing it the next morning, Nov. 5, 2011.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... prediction...

Three days later, The Stone Roses posted two images at their official Facebook. Both images contain their name spray painted on walls. But one of the images contained a mysterious spray painted number, "602427". The wall the number is sprayed on has a sign above the number which reads,

"PRIVATE LAND
NO PARKING"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

This appeared - to me - as a response to my failed prediction. I felt as if the Roses were sending a message back to me, but I simply did not have any faith left at this time. And I turned my back on it.

One day later, Nov. 9, 2011, on the IAWS2 forum, "Larry Mullen" posted a link to http://phoenixfestival.co.uk . And by this time, that site (owned by Warren Davies) had updated its page with the lemon that has been on Reni's kick drums (as well as the official Roses Twitter). Beneath the lemon is a question mark. The image leads to an email (info@phoenixfestival.co.uk).

IAWS2 poster "Morgan" then responded (later on Nov. 9, 2011) to Larry Mullen with a header that read, "602 427..." The text of that response stated that 602 427 "...is a Phoenix zip code, so presumably they are booked to headline given the cryptic graffiti on the .org website."

The discussion of the number's meaning as referring to it being an area code in Phoenix, Arizona was also contemplated by various people at the Roses Facebook. Morgan was wrong about it being a zip code. 602-427 is, in fact, an area code and phone exchange unique to Phoenix, Arizona.

The IAWS2 discussion assumed that phoenixfestival.co.uk was an official site. But there's no evidence that it is. It's not registered to Kent Festival Ltd as thephoenixfestival.com site is.

It was possible that Warren Davies simply read Vince Power's July 4th, 2011 statement and then purchased phoenixfestival.co.uk to start a fan site. By November 9, 2011, it was common knowledge that the Roses had posted the image with "602427" at their Facebook. And if Warren Davies was aware of this, then he might have updated phoenixfestival.co.uk with the Stone Roses lemon and "?" to capitalize on the mystery.

There's nothing in these facts that proves The Stone Roses used "602427" to suggest they were playing The Phoenix Festival.

BUT THERE'S A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS CONTEXT, WHICH APPEARS TO POSITIVELY IMPLICATE THE STONE ROSES IN THIS PLOT.

On Nov. 6, 2011, at the Downloadfestival.co.uk forum, "ANXIETY", a veteran poster with over 3400 posts there, published the link to phoenixfestival.co.uk under the header, "Stone Roses playing Phoneix (sic) Festival?"

http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122.aspx

The thread is three pages long, and it discusses the lemon image. It also concludes with a post by "Defsteve" that includes the phoenixfestival.co.uk registry info relating to Warren Davies. http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122-p3.aspx

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE STONE ROSES IMAGE FEATURING THE NUMBER 602427 AT THE OFFICIAL STONE ROSES FACEBOOK, POSTED THERE ON NOV. 8, 2011, FOLLOWS THE APPEARANCE OF THE LEMON WITH "?" AT PHOENIXFESTIVAL.CO.UK

It's very significant that the Roses dropped the Phoenix area code/exchange related number, AFTER the lemon appears at phoenixfestival.co.uk. This implicates the Roses directly in the mystery.

Notice also that Defsteve's response to Anxiety at the Downloadfestival forum indicates that on the date of his reply, Nov. 8, 2011, the Who Is registry for phoenixfestival.co.uk showed that it had not been updated since it was purchased on July 5th, 2011. But currently the Who Is registry indicates it was updated by Nov. 11, 2011. Since the lemon was spotted on Nov. 6, 2011, we can assume that the lemon was added around that time, and that the registry didn't reflect the update until Nov. 11, 2011. It does not appear that the site has changed since Nov. 6, 2011, based upon the comments in the Download Festival forum thread.

So what does this tell us? It tells us that The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. Unless, of course, you believe the Roses are fans of Warren Davies playing along to his charade. They aren't. And there's more evidence as well.

Leading up to the May 23, 2012 free, secret Warrington gig, I had been predicting that the Roses would play a secret gig in Manchester prior to Barcelona. I was sure of this prediction because of their October 18, 2011 press conference, wherein they promised to return in Manchester. I was right on the secret gig being free, but was wrong on the location. And I again lost faith in the Roses, slamming them for having security confiscate cameras, and for not returning in Manchester. It freaked me out and I gave up. I was angry and I lost faith. I thought the Roses had lied and I said so. They promised to return in Manchester, but didn't. I was wrong though.

The Stone Roses did return in Manchester when John Squire and Ian Brown played "Elizabeth My Dear" for the Justice Tonight gig in Manchester. I got it wrong. After I realized my error, I apologized. My faith in Onelovestory returned and I began to look more closely at the evidence.

CHRONOLOGY RECAP

July 4, 2011, Vince Power announces plans to "resurrect" The Phoenix Festival
July 5, 2011, Warren Davies registers http://phoenixfestival.co.uk
Nov. 4, 2011, Burnweed announces possibility of secret Stone Roses gig
Nov. 5, 2011, Burnweed retracts suggestion of secret gig
Nov. 6, 2001, the official lemon badge of The Stone Roses is discovered at http://phoenixfestival.co.uk with a "?" below it
Nov. 8, 2011, the Stone Roses post an image featuring the number "602427" at their Facebook
Nov. 9, 2011, 602 427 is revealed to be an area code and exchange for Phoenix, Arizona
May 23, 2012, The Stone Roses play secret free gig where Ian Brown wears t-shirt of poster for Phoenix Park gig
July 5, 2012, The Stone Roses will play Phoenix Park gig on the one year anniversary of Davies registering http://phoenixfestival.co.uk

MORE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

On May 23, 2012, at the free Warrington gig, Ian Brown wore a t-shirt featuring the poster for the Phoenix Park gig in Dublin. This is a multi-facetted clue.

1. The t-shirt has "Phoenix" in it.

2. The Phoenix Park gig in Dublin is on July 5th, 2012, exactly one year from when Warren Davies registered phoenixfestival.co.uk on July 5th, 2011.

3. Since Warrington was secret and free, Ian's wearing the t-shirt that night appears to be a clue that The Phoenix Festival will be secret and free.

4. The Nov. 8, 2011 image posted at the Roses Facebook with "602427" also includes a sign above the number that states, "PRIVATE LAND" and below that it states "NO PARKING". Like Heaton Park, Phoenix Park is a public park. The Nov. 8th image indicates that the secret gig will be on private land, and therefore Phoenix Park is not being referenced.

Additionally, at The Stone Roses official website - http://www.thestoneroses.org - every gig on their current tour is listed, followed by an "Info" link. Every one of those links, EXCEPT for Phoenix Park, goes to either the box office for that gig, or to an official festival web site. The Phoenix Park "Info" button leads to the official web page for Phoenix Park - http://www.phoenixpark.ie/about - where the Roses gig is not even mentioned by name. The calendar simply lists "concert" for July 5th. And there's no way to buy tickets. The Stone Roses aren't mentioned there at all. They could have linked to the Box Office for the Phoenix Park gig -http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/1800478F94AF5E93 - but they didn't, while they did for every other gig.

Were it not for the button leading to the park's website from the Roses site, we would not understand the "Private Land" reference.

"No parking" also indicates the gig won't be in a park.

So there you have it. There's not a doubt in my mind The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. The above evidence takes that prediction from conjecture to reality.

Now let's turn to conjecture on the rest of the story.

CONJECTURE/PREDICTIONS

1. I believe a free secret festival is going to happen. Perhaps there will be a nominal charge for either charity, or to cover expenses, but I cannot see this being a "for profit" gig in any way, shape or form.

2. Oasis will play this festival. Clashmusic.com reported on the June 8th Barcelona gig as follows: "Liam Gallagher watched the show from the sound desk, and was given a shout out by Ian Brown. '2012 is the year of the comeback,' the frontman said from the stage. 'And there is a man at the back who knows all about that'. I do not believe The Stone Roses or Oasis ever really broke up, and the truth of that claim will be revealed at The Phoenix Festival.

3. Reni's cryptic comment to John Robb and the NME, Not before 9T will I wear the hat 4 the Roses again. Reni hasn't worn the hat "for the Roses" yet. He's been wearing something that looks like fake dreads. This is a clue that Robbie Maddix was in on the hoax the whole time. Reni did put a bucket hat on after one of their gigs, as it was thrown to him by a fan as they were taking their bows, but that's not wearing the hat "for the Roses", which I assume means playing a gig with the famous Reni hat. http://louderthanwar.com/reni-quote-on- ... ore-stuff/

4. T = the 9th letter in ONELOVESTORY. I don't know if this is what 9T refers to, but I do believe the secret location and/or date(s) of The Phoenix Festival might be revealed in the official posters for each gig. I do not have this aspect/cipher cracked yet. I do not even know for sure that there is a cipher embedded in those posters.

I'm asking for your help on this.

I have spotted a pattern on the first poster, the one for Heaton Park. The poster indicates a pattern where two letters of the same color bookend a letter of a different color. This happens with the light blue "E" in the first line. Then it happens with the "H" and the "E" in the third line, as well as the "S" and the "E" in the fifth line.

If you watch the press conference for the Roses return at their official Youtube page, the intro (with IWBA playing) is composed of four "scenes". Scene 1 is a close up on the pattern discussed regarding the first line on the poster. Scene 2 is a close up on the pattern from the third line. Scene 3 is a close up on the pattern form the fifth line. And Scene 4 is a pan out to the entire poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os&feature=plcp

The video repeats for part 2 of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE&feature=plcp

5. Until this secret festival happens, and the Roses (plus Oasis) reveal the tapestry they have been collaborating upon for so many years, the hoax continues. The incident in Amsterdam recently where Ian Brown hit Reni with a terrible insult was pure theater. The hoax continued. The Stone Roses never broke up. They have been mates, and the same band all the while. They wrote most of "What's The Story Morning Glory" for Oasis, and that will also be revealed.

Who knows what else will come out.

As you wonder why a band would conduct their career this way, just keep the word "art" nearby. The canvas of The Stone Roses is truly supernatural. Take note that all of the gig posters appear, like the artwork for "Second Coming", to be painted on a canvas.

"In mythology, a phoenix is an immortal bird that, when it dies, bursts into flames and is reborn from its own ashes. "To rise from the ashes of the phoenix" means to make a miraculous comeback."http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_'Rise_from_the_ashes_of_the_Phoenix'_mean

Peace and Love

Jet Wintzer aka Burnweed - June 20, 2012

@BurnweedOLS on Twitter






...ten minutes I'll never get back.

On the plus side, it assures me you do fuck all in your job. Cause NOBODY would investigate that shit on their own time unless they were on medication.
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June 21st, 2012, 4:09 am #6

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I am so loving this. whooppeeeee
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June 21st, 2012, 6:59 am #7

ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

The first part of this post will discuss the evidence, which leads to the headline's conclusion. The second part will discuss predictions surrounding the bigger Onelovestory picture.

PART 1. The Evidence.

On July 4, 2011, Vince Power announced the following:

"For those of you who remember the Phoenix Festival, it's my intention to resurrect this festival next year as Glastonbury is taking a break."

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a3 ... -says.html

Vince Power's organization owns http://thephoenixfestival.com . That page links to a Twitter and Facebook page for the 2012 Phoenix Festival.

The web page also states, "THE PHOENIX FESTIVAL RETURNETH, ARE YOU READY?" But there is no date or location listed. The page is registered to "Kent Festival Ltd" by Bev Burton. She is in charge of booking bands for Vince Power. http://www.whois.com/whois/thephoenixfestival.com

The Official Twitter states, "More information regarding The Phoenix Festival 2012 will be coming soon....." https://twitter.com/#!/thephoenixfest

This leads one to believe that The Phoenix Festival will actually return in 2012.

On July 5, 2011, a person named Warren Davies purchased http://phoenixfestival.co.uk .

The registration is here http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... ival.co.uk

Warren Davies does not appear to be affiliated with Vince Power, but the registration follows Power's July 4th 2011 announcement by one day, appearing on July 5th, 2011.

On November 4, 2011, I suggested, on the "I Am Without Shoes Too" forum (IAWS2), that The Stone Roses might play a secret gig on April 1, 2012. But on the headline to that post, I suffered a typo that indicated the gig would be April 1, 2011, which had already passed.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... +1%2C+2011+-

Later that night, I became discouraged about the typo and lost faith in the prediction, repealing it the next morning, Nov. 5, 2011.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... prediction...

Three days later, The Stone Roses posted two images at their official Facebook. Both images contain their name spray painted on walls. But one of the images contained a mysterious spray painted number, "602427". The wall the number is sprayed on has a sign above the number which reads,

"PRIVATE LAND
NO PARKING"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

This appeared - to me - as a response to my failed prediction. I felt as if the Roses were sending a message back to me, but I simply did not have any faith left at this time. And I turned my back on it.

One day later, Nov. 9, 2011, on the IAWS2 forum, "Larry Mullen" posted a link to http://phoenixfestival.co.uk . And by this time, that site (owned by Warren Davies) had updated its page with the lemon that has been on Reni's kick drums (as well as the official Roses Twitter). Beneath the lemon is a question mark. The image leads to an email (info@phoenixfestival.co.uk).

IAWS2 poster "Morgan" then responded (later on Nov. 9, 2011) to Larry Mullen with a header that read, "602 427..." The text of that response stated that 602 427 "...is a Phoenix zip code, so presumably they are booked to headline given the cryptic graffiti on the .org website."

The discussion of the number's meaning as referring to it being an area code in Phoenix, Arizona was also contemplated by various people at the Roses Facebook. Morgan was wrong about it being a zip code. 602-427 is, in fact, an area code and phone exchange unique to Phoenix, Arizona.

The IAWS2 discussion assumed that phoenixfestival.co.uk was an official site. But there's no evidence that it is. It's not registered to Kent Festival Ltd as thephoenixfestival.com site is.

It was possible that Warren Davies simply read Vince Power's July 4th, 2011 statement and then purchased phoenixfestival.co.uk to start a fan site. By November 9, 2011, it was common knowledge that the Roses had posted the image with "602427" at their Facebook. And if Warren Davies was aware of this, then he might have updated phoenixfestival.co.uk with the Stone Roses lemon and "?" to capitalize on the mystery.

There's nothing in these facts that proves The Stone Roses used "602427" to suggest they were playing The Phoenix Festival.

BUT THERE'S A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS CONTEXT, WHICH APPEARS TO POSITIVELY IMPLICATE THE STONE ROSES IN THIS PLOT.

On Nov. 6, 2011, at the Downloadfestival.co.uk forum, "ANXIETY", a veteran poster with over 3400 posts there, published the link to phoenixfestival.co.uk under the header, "Stone Roses playing Phoneix (sic) Festival?"

http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122.aspx

The thread is three pages long, and it discusses the lemon image. It also concludes with a post by "Defsteve" that includes the phoenixfestival.co.uk registry info relating to Warren Davies. http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122-p3.aspx

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE STONE ROSES IMAGE FEATURING THE NUMBER 602427 AT THE OFFICIAL STONE ROSES FACEBOOK, POSTED THERE ON NOV. 8, 2011, FOLLOWS THE APPEARANCE OF THE LEMON WITH "?" AT PHOENIXFESTIVAL.CO.UK

It's very significant that the Roses dropped the Phoenix area code/exchange related number, AFTER the lemon appears at phoenixfestival.co.uk. This implicates the Roses directly in the mystery.

Notice also that Defsteve's response to Anxiety at the Downloadfestival forum indicates that on the date of his reply, Nov. 8, 2011, the Who Is registry for phoenixfestival.co.uk showed that it had not been updated since it was purchased on July 5th, 2011. But currently the Who Is registry indicates it was updated by Nov. 11, 2011. Since the lemon was spotted on Nov. 6, 2011, we can assume that the lemon was added around that time, and that the registry didn't reflect the update until Nov. 11, 2011. It does not appear that the site has changed since Nov. 6, 2011, based upon the comments in the Download Festival forum thread.

So what does this tell us? It tells us that The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. Unless, of course, you believe the Roses are fans of Warren Davies playing along to his charade. They aren't. And there's more evidence as well.

Leading up to the May 23, 2012 free, secret Warrington gig, I had been predicting that the Roses would play a secret gig in Manchester prior to Barcelona. I was sure of this prediction because of their October 18, 2011 press conference, wherein they promised to return in Manchester. I was right on the secret gig being free, but was wrong on the location. And I again lost faith in the Roses, slamming them for having security confiscate cameras, and for not returning in Manchester. It freaked me out and I gave up. I was angry and I lost faith. I thought the Roses had lied and I said so. They promised to return in Manchester, but didn't. I was wrong though.

The Stone Roses did return in Manchester when John Squire and Ian Brown played "Elizabeth My Dear" for the Justice Tonight gig in Manchester. I got it wrong. After I realized my error, I apologized. My faith in Onelovestory returned and I began to look more closely at the evidence.

CHRONOLOGY RECAP

July 4, 2011, Vince Power announces plans to "resurrect" The Phoenix Festival
July 5, 2011, Warren Davies registers http://phoenixfestival.co.uk
Nov. 4, 2011, Burnweed announces possibility of secret Stone Roses gig
Nov. 5, 2011, Burnweed retracts suggestion of secret gig
Nov. 6, 2001, the official lemon badge of The Stone Roses is discovered at http://phoenixfestival.co.uk with a "?" below it
Nov. 8, 2011, the Stone Roses post an image featuring the number "602427" at their Facebook
Nov. 9, 2011, 602 427 is revealed to be an area code and exchange for Phoenix, Arizona
May 23, 2012, The Stone Roses play secret free gig where Ian Brown wears t-shirt of poster for Phoenix Park gig
July 5, 2012, The Stone Roses will play Phoenix Park gig on the one year anniversary of Davies registering http://phoenixfestival.co.uk

MORE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

On May 23, 2012, at the free Warrington gig, Ian Brown wore a t-shirt featuring the poster for the Phoenix Park gig in Dublin. This is a multi-facetted clue.

1. The t-shirt has "Phoenix" in it.

2. The Phoenix Park gig in Dublin is on July 5th, 2012, exactly one year from when Warren Davies registered phoenixfestival.co.uk on July 5th, 2011.

3. Since Warrington was secret and free, Ian's wearing the t-shirt that night appears to be a clue that The Phoenix Festival will be secret and free.

4. The Nov. 8, 2011 image posted at the Roses Facebook with "602427" also includes a sign above the number that states, "PRIVATE LAND" and below that it states "NO PARKING". Like Heaton Park, Phoenix Park is a public park. The Nov. 8th image indicates that the secret gig will be on private land, and therefore Phoenix Park is not being referenced.

Additionally, at The Stone Roses official website - http://www.thestoneroses.org - every gig on their current tour is listed, followed by an "Info" link. Every one of those links, EXCEPT for Phoenix Park, goes to either the box office for that gig, or to an official festival web site. The Phoenix Park "Info" button leads to the official web page for Phoenix Park - http://www.phoenixpark.ie/about - where the Roses gig is not even mentioned by name. The calendar simply lists "concert" for July 5th. And there's no way to buy tickets. The Stone Roses aren't mentioned there at all. They could have linked to the Box Office for the Phoenix Park gig -http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/1800478F94AF5E93 - but they didn't, while they did for every other gig.

Were it not for the button leading to the park's website from the Roses site, we would not understand the "Private Land" reference.

"No parking" also indicates the gig won't be in a park.

So there you have it. There's not a doubt in my mind The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. The above evidence takes that prediction from conjecture to reality.

Now let's turn to conjecture on the rest of the story.

CONJECTURE/PREDICTIONS

1. I believe a free secret festival is going to happen. Perhaps there will be a nominal charge for either charity, or to cover expenses, but I cannot see this being a "for profit" gig in any way, shape or form.

2. Oasis will play this festival. Clashmusic.com reported on the June 8th Barcelona gig as follows: "Liam Gallagher watched the show from the sound desk, and was given a shout out by Ian Brown. '2012 is the year of the comeback,' the frontman said from the stage. 'And there is a man at the back who knows all about that'. I do not believe The Stone Roses or Oasis ever really broke up, and the truth of that claim will be revealed at The Phoenix Festival.

3. Reni's cryptic comment to John Robb and the NME, Not before 9T will I wear the hat 4 the Roses again. Reni hasn't worn the hat "for the Roses" yet. He's been wearing something that looks like fake dreads. This is a clue that Robbie Maddix was in on the hoax the whole time. Reni did put a bucket hat on after one of their gigs, as it was thrown to him by a fan as they were taking their bows, but that's not wearing the hat "for the Roses", which I assume means playing a gig with the famous Reni hat. http://louderthanwar.com/reni-quote-on- ... ore-stuff/

4. T = the 9th letter in ONELOVESTORY. I don't know if this is what 9T refers to, but I do believe the secret location and/or date(s) of The Phoenix Festival might be revealed in the official posters for each gig. I do not have this aspect/cipher cracked yet. I do not even know for sure that there is a cipher embedded in those posters.

I'm asking for your help on this.

I have spotted a pattern on the first poster, the one for Heaton Park. The poster indicates a pattern where two letters of the same color bookend a letter of a different color. This happens with the light blue "E" in the first line. Then it happens with the "H" and the "E" in the third line, as well as the "S" and the "E" in the fifth line.

If you watch the press conference for the Roses return at their official Youtube page, the intro (with IWBA playing) is composed of four "scenes". Scene 1 is a close up on the pattern discussed regarding the first line on the poster. Scene 2 is a close up on the pattern from the third line. Scene 3 is a close up on the pattern form the fifth line. And Scene 4 is a pan out to the entire poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os&feature=plcp

The video repeats for part 2 of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE&feature=plcp

5. Until this secret festival happens, and the Roses (plus Oasis) reveal the tapestry they have been collaborating upon for so many years, the hoax continues. The incident in Amsterdam recently where Ian Brown hit Reni with a terrible insult was pure theater. The hoax continued. The Stone Roses never broke up. They have been mates, and the same band all the while. They wrote most of "What's The Story Morning Glory" for Oasis, and that will also be revealed.

Who knows what else will come out.

As you wonder why a band would conduct their career this way, just keep the word "art" nearby. The canvas of The Stone Roses is truly supernatural. Take note that all of the gig posters appear, like the artwork for "Second Coming", to be painted on a canvas.

"In mythology, a phoenix is an immortal bird that, when it dies, bursts into flames and is reborn from its own ashes. "To rise from the ashes of the phoenix" means to make a miraculous comeback."http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_'Rise_from_the_ashes_of_the_Phoenix'_mean

Peace and Love

Jet Wintzer aka Burnweed - June 20, 2012

@BurnweedOLS on Twitter






I don't buy into your theories in the slightest, but have to admire your dedication and attention to detail.

The only thing I'd possibly agree with is the Amsterdam incident. Although I believe this was more to do with pissing off the music press than being part of some mysterious hoax.

Anyway, I found your post more interesting than the Metro this morning. But I still don't believe it.
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June 21st, 2012, 8:30 am #8

The 9T really did mean 90. As in 90 years old. It was a text sent by Reni's manager to the NME as a smoke screen. Reni wore a 90 birthday badge and had a little cake at the press conference. 10m20s in.http://youtu.be/D6itFMuO6Os?t=10m20s
Just a joke, that's really all.
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June 21st, 2012, 9:48 am #9

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June 21st, 2012, 10:28 am #10

ONELOVESTORY 2012: "Rise of The Phoenix" - STONE ROSES WILL HEADLINE FREE SECRET FESTIVAL.

The first part of this post will discuss the evidence, which leads to the headline's conclusion. The second part will discuss predictions surrounding the bigger Onelovestory picture.

PART 1. The Evidence.

On July 4, 2011, Vince Power announced the following:

"For those of you who remember the Phoenix Festival, it's my intention to resurrect this festival next year as Glastonbury is taking a break."

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a3 ... -says.html

Vince Power's organization owns http://thephoenixfestival.com . That page links to a Twitter and Facebook page for the 2012 Phoenix Festival.

The web page also states, "THE PHOENIX FESTIVAL RETURNETH, ARE YOU READY?" But there is no date or location listed. The page is registered to "Kent Festival Ltd" by Bev Burton. She is in charge of booking bands for Vince Power. http://www.whois.com/whois/thephoenixfestival.com

The Official Twitter states, "More information regarding The Phoenix Festival 2012 will be coming soon....." https://twitter.com/#!/thephoenixfest

This leads one to believe that The Phoenix Festival will actually return in 2012.

On July 5, 2011, a person named Warren Davies purchased http://phoenixfestival.co.uk .

The registration is here http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... ival.co.uk

Warren Davies does not appear to be affiliated with Vince Power, but the registration follows Power's July 4th 2011 announcement by one day, appearing on July 5th, 2011.

On November 4, 2011, I suggested, on the "I Am Without Shoes Too" forum (IAWS2), that The Stone Roses might play a secret gig on April 1, 2012. But on the headline to that post, I suffered a typo that indicated the gig would be April 1, 2011, which had already passed.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... +1%2C+2011+-

Later that night, I became discouraged about the typo and lost faith in the prediction, repealing it the next morning, Nov. 5, 2011.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/571527/m ... prediction...

Three days later, The Stone Roses posted two images at their official Facebook. Both images contain their name spray painted on walls. But one of the images contained a mysterious spray painted number, "602427". The wall the number is sprayed on has a sign above the number which reads,

"PRIVATE LAND
NO PARKING"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

This appeared - to me - as a response to my failed prediction. I felt as if the Roses were sending a message back to me, but I simply did not have any faith left at this time. And I turned my back on it.

One day later, Nov. 9, 2011, on the IAWS2 forum, "Larry Mullen" posted a link to http://phoenixfestival.co.uk . And by this time, that site (owned by Warren Davies) had updated its page with the lemon that has been on Reni's kick drums (as well as the official Roses Twitter). Beneath the lemon is a question mark. The image leads to an email (info@phoenixfestival.co.uk).

IAWS2 poster "Morgan" then responded (later on Nov. 9, 2011) to Larry Mullen with a header that read, "602 427..." The text of that response stated that 602 427 "...is a Phoenix zip code, so presumably they are booked to headline given the cryptic graffiti on the .org website."

The discussion of the number's meaning as referring to it being an area code in Phoenix, Arizona was also contemplated by various people at the Roses Facebook. Morgan was wrong about it being a zip code. 602-427 is, in fact, an area code and phone exchange unique to Phoenix, Arizona.

The IAWS2 discussion assumed that phoenixfestival.co.uk was an official site. But there's no evidence that it is. It's not registered to Kent Festival Ltd as thephoenixfestival.com site is.

It was possible that Warren Davies simply read Vince Power's July 4th, 2011 statement and then purchased phoenixfestival.co.uk to start a fan site. By November 9, 2011, it was common knowledge that the Roses had posted the image with "602427" at their Facebook. And if Warren Davies was aware of this, then he might have updated phoenixfestival.co.uk with the Stone Roses lemon and "?" to capitalize on the mystery.

There's nothing in these facts that proves The Stone Roses used "602427" to suggest they were playing The Phoenix Festival.

BUT THERE'S A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS CONTEXT, WHICH APPEARS TO POSITIVELY IMPLICATE THE STONE ROSES IN THIS PLOT.

On Nov. 6, 2011, at the Downloadfestival.co.uk forum, "ANXIETY", a veteran poster with over 3400 posts there, published the link to phoenixfestival.co.uk under the header, "Stone Roses playing Phoneix (sic) Festival?"

http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122.aspx

The thread is three pages long, and it discusses the lemon image. It also concludes with a post by "Defsteve" that includes the phoenixfestival.co.uk registry info relating to Warren Davies. http://forums.downloadfestival.co.uk/m5121122-p3.aspx

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE STONE ROSES IMAGE FEATURING THE NUMBER 602427 AT THE OFFICIAL STONE ROSES FACEBOOK, POSTED THERE ON NOV. 8, 2011, FOLLOWS THE APPEARANCE OF THE LEMON WITH "?" AT PHOENIXFESTIVAL.CO.UK

It's very significant that the Roses dropped the Phoenix area code/exchange related number, AFTER the lemon appears at phoenixfestival.co.uk. This implicates the Roses directly in the mystery.

Notice also that Defsteve's response to Anxiety at the Downloadfestival forum indicates that on the date of his reply, Nov. 8, 2011, the Who Is registry for phoenixfestival.co.uk showed that it had not been updated since it was purchased on July 5th, 2011. But currently the Who Is registry indicates it was updated by Nov. 11, 2011. Since the lemon was spotted on Nov. 6, 2011, we can assume that the lemon was added around that time, and that the registry didn't reflect the update until Nov. 11, 2011. It does not appear that the site has changed since Nov. 6, 2011, based upon the comments in the Download Festival forum thread.

So what does this tell us? It tells us that The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. Unless, of course, you believe the Roses are fans of Warren Davies playing along to his charade. They aren't. And there's more evidence as well.

Leading up to the May 23, 2012 free, secret Warrington gig, I had been predicting that the Roses would play a secret gig in Manchester prior to Barcelona. I was sure of this prediction because of their October 18, 2011 press conference, wherein they promised to return in Manchester. I was right on the secret gig being free, but was wrong on the location. And I again lost faith in the Roses, slamming them for having security confiscate cameras, and for not returning in Manchester. It freaked me out and I gave up. I was angry and I lost faith. I thought the Roses had lied and I said so. They promised to return in Manchester, but didn't. I was wrong though.

The Stone Roses did return in Manchester when John Squire and Ian Brown played "Elizabeth My Dear" for the Justice Tonight gig in Manchester. I got it wrong. After I realized my error, I apologized. My faith in Onelovestory returned and I began to look more closely at the evidence.

CHRONOLOGY RECAP

July 4, 2011, Vince Power announces plans to "resurrect" The Phoenix Festival
July 5, 2011, Warren Davies registers http://phoenixfestival.co.uk
Nov. 4, 2011, Burnweed announces possibility of secret Stone Roses gig
Nov. 5, 2011, Burnweed retracts suggestion of secret gig
Nov. 6, 2001, the official lemon badge of The Stone Roses is discovered at http://phoenixfestival.co.uk with a "?" below it
Nov. 8, 2011, the Stone Roses post an image featuring the number "602427" at their Facebook
Nov. 9, 2011, 602 427 is revealed to be an area code and exchange for Phoenix, Arizona
May 23, 2012, The Stone Roses play secret free gig where Ian Brown wears t-shirt of poster for Phoenix Park gig
July 5, 2012, The Stone Roses will play Phoenix Park gig on the one year anniversary of Davies registering http://phoenixfestival.co.uk

MORE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

On May 23, 2012, at the free Warrington gig, Ian Brown wore a t-shirt featuring the poster for the Phoenix Park gig in Dublin. This is a multi-facetted clue.

1. The t-shirt has "Phoenix" in it.

2. The Phoenix Park gig in Dublin is on July 5th, 2012, exactly one year from when Warren Davies registered phoenixfestival.co.uk on July 5th, 2011.

3. Since Warrington was secret and free, Ian's wearing the t-shirt that night appears to be a clue that The Phoenix Festival will be secret and free.

4. The Nov. 8, 2011 image posted at the Roses Facebook with "602427" also includes a sign above the number that states, "PRIVATE LAND" and below that it states "NO PARKING". Like Heaton Park, Phoenix Park is a public park. The Nov. 8th image indicates that the secret gig will be on private land, and therefore Phoenix Park is not being referenced.

Additionally, at The Stone Roses official website - http://www.thestoneroses.org - every gig on their current tour is listed, followed by an "Info" link. Every one of those links, EXCEPT for Phoenix Park, goes to either the box office for that gig, or to an official festival web site. The Phoenix Park "Info" button leads to the official web page for Phoenix Park - http://www.phoenixpark.ie/about - where the Roses gig is not even mentioned by name. The calendar simply lists "concert" for July 5th. And there's no way to buy tickets. The Stone Roses aren't mentioned there at all. They could have linked to the Box Office for the Phoenix Park gig -http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/1800478F94AF5E93 - but they didn't, while they did for every other gig.

Were it not for the button leading to the park's website from the Roses site, we would not understand the "Private Land" reference.

"No parking" also indicates the gig won't be in a park.

So there you have it. There's not a doubt in my mind The Stone Roses are playing the "resurrected" Phoenix Festival. The above evidence takes that prediction from conjecture to reality.

Now let's turn to conjecture on the rest of the story.

CONJECTURE/PREDICTIONS

1. I believe a free secret festival is going to happen. Perhaps there will be a nominal charge for either charity, or to cover expenses, but I cannot see this being a "for profit" gig in any way, shape or form.

2. Oasis will play this festival. Clashmusic.com reported on the June 8th Barcelona gig as follows: "Liam Gallagher watched the show from the sound desk, and was given a shout out by Ian Brown. '2012 is the year of the comeback,' the frontman said from the stage. 'And there is a man at the back who knows all about that'. I do not believe The Stone Roses or Oasis ever really broke up, and the truth of that claim will be revealed at The Phoenix Festival.

3. Reni's cryptic comment to John Robb and the NME, Not before 9T will I wear the hat 4 the Roses again. Reni hasn't worn the hat "for the Roses" yet. He's been wearing something that looks like fake dreads. This is a clue that Robbie Maddix was in on the hoax the whole time. Reni did put a bucket hat on after one of their gigs, as it was thrown to him by a fan as they were taking their bows, but that's not wearing the hat "for the Roses", which I assume means playing a gig with the famous Reni hat. http://louderthanwar.com/reni-quote-on- ... ore-stuff/

4. T = the 9th letter in ONELOVESTORY. I don't know if this is what 9T refers to, but I do believe the secret location and/or date(s) of The Phoenix Festival might be revealed in the official posters for each gig. I do not have this aspect/cipher cracked yet. I do not even know for sure that there is a cipher embedded in those posters.

I'm asking for your help on this.

I have spotted a pattern on the first poster, the one for Heaton Park. The poster indicates a pattern where two letters of the same color bookend a letter of a different color. This happens with the light blue "E" in the first line. Then it happens with the "H" and the "E" in the third line, as well as the "S" and the "E" in the fifth line.

If you watch the press conference for the Roses return at their official Youtube page, the intro (with IWBA playing) is composed of four "scenes". Scene 1 is a close up on the pattern discussed regarding the first line on the poster. Scene 2 is a close up on the pattern from the third line. Scene 3 is a close up on the pattern form the fifth line. And Scene 4 is a pan out to the entire poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os&feature=plcp

The video repeats for part 2 of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE&feature=plcp

5. Until this secret festival happens, and the Roses (plus Oasis) reveal the tapestry they have been collaborating upon for so many years, the hoax continues. The incident in Amsterdam recently where Ian Brown hit Reni with a terrible insult was pure theater. The hoax continued. The Stone Roses never broke up. They have been mates, and the same band all the while. They wrote most of "What's The Story Morning Glory" for Oasis, and that will also be revealed.

Who knows what else will come out.

As you wonder why a band would conduct their career this way, just keep the word "art" nearby. The canvas of The Stone Roses is truly supernatural. Take note that all of the gig posters appear, like the artwork for "Second Coming", to be painted on a canvas.

"In mythology, a phoenix is an immortal bird that, when it dies, bursts into flames and is reborn from its own ashes. "To rise from the ashes of the phoenix" means to make a miraculous comeback."http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_'Rise_from_the_ashes_of_the_Phoenix'_mean

Peace and Love

Jet Wintzer aka Burnweed - June 20, 2012

@BurnweedOLS on Twitter






Christ, that was long winded, but not as long winded and embarrasing as blaming the deaths of your fellow countrymen on numbers after the Twin Towers bombing, eh?

Oh, and Reni wore the hat on stage in Barcelona.

Back to the drawing board.



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