How much would you pay for a roses 3rd album?

How much would you pay for a roses 3rd album?

Severed head
Severed head

August 29th, 2017, 11:53 am #1

I would pay £12.99 for a regular cd

If it was a limited edition signed copy, £25

If it was a deluxe signed bundle with limited Squire print and t shirt, £99

They could rake in the cash without even having to do a gig, just wrote a few tunes that's all

I don't believe it is over. Everyone who gets a taste of the hard cash, wants more. We are all guilty of that. I'm making £100 a day and I can't allow myself a days break, just give me the money lol
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stiv
stiv

August 29th, 2017, 1:42 pm #2

some toys got thrown out of the pram and a lot of disrespect thrown at reni (and it's obvious that both mani and ian weren't on amazing terms with reni from the get go of the reunion), but ian was apparently "going solo" last year and they have still not made a statement. i'm glad someone put the kibosh on ian solo tunes being badged up as roses, but i reckon within the next five years they will have played live again. unless the semi-public smears against reni have ensured he'd never sign up for more of course.
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Lion
Lion

August 29th, 2017, 6:07 pm #3

Have to say I think it is in Ian's best interests to patch things up with the beat master. I think IB solo tunes are "ok" but now that I've seen the stone roses and comparing those reunion gigs to Ian's solo shows, I would not pay to see him solo again. It was not really that good. He is going to regret going back solo, patch things up with Reni and co write with john. That is the best advice anyone could give him!
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stiv
stiv

August 29th, 2017, 7:16 pm #4

that's the problem though, i don't think ian and john can collaborate. neither song were the work of those two sitting down and writing together. even on the debut album, john wrote many (most?) of the lyrics and vocal melodies - those 2 songs sound pure ian and ultimately pretty poor. that isn't to say ian can't write great melodies, but if john has no input into them it isn't the stone roses surely....... it's just ian brown with john adding some guitar riffs, which makes it look like john wasn't the main songwriter when he was.
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Dave
Dave

August 30th, 2017, 10:11 am #5

Interesting, I thought ian wrote most lyrics on the debut, with John contributing to most also. Ian said that for second coming john wrote the lyrics, and "took away my fun"
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stiv
stiv

August 30th, 2017, 4:29 pm #6

john didn't suddenly start writing lyrics for second coming - it was just due to the nature of their then relationship that he stopped including ian in writing very much. the change in lyrical style on second coming wasn't because ian wasn't contributing, it was a deliberate change in style.

i don't believe ian was the "main" lyricist on the debut - i think it was quite evenly shared, with simpler lyrics like i wanna be adored mostly ian and things like waterfall much more john. and of course john wrote the basis of every song.
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Treble6
Treble6

August 30th, 2017, 10:44 pm #7

John got a bit sneaky and wrote lyrics on driving south like "ain't too young or pretty and you sure as hell cant sing" It must have made him laugh when ian had to sing that lol, I think ian clicked on to it eventually
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Money
Money

August 31st, 2017, 12:40 pm #8

I would pay £12.99 for a regular cd

If it was a limited edition signed copy, £25

If it was a deluxe signed bundle with limited Squire print and t shirt, £99

They could rake in the cash without even having to do a gig, just wrote a few tunes that's all

I don't believe it is over. Everyone who gets a taste of the hard cash, wants more. We are all guilty of that. I'm making £100 a day and I can't allow myself a days break, just give me the money lol
So if it was £13 you'd never buy it?!
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DC
DC

September 1st, 2017, 8:19 am #9

John got a bit sneaky and wrote lyrics on driving south like "ain't too young or pretty and you sure as hell cant sing" It must have made him laugh when ian had to sing that lol, I think ian clicked on to it eventually
Squire stated in a number of articles that the lyrics were about himself.

(one might say his two solo albums highlighted this!)
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stiv
stiv

September 2nd, 2017, 11:20 am #10

yep, john has indeed said that in interviews. but, when you consider criticism of ian's live vocals and that john even described ian as being a tuneless knob when he was strung out on dope that you've gotta think that maybe he wasn't being 100% honest..... he was hardly going to say in an interview "yeah, i thought it'd be hilarious to get ian to sing those lines about himself" because it'd make him look a bit of a cunt. a glaring omission in their setlist since they reformed too.
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