HERE LIES THE RUB

HERE LIES THE RUB

NeedlesEye
NeedlesEye

July 8th, 2017, 3:50 pm #1

Mik Grant has a couple of live Rub tracks on Sound cloudhttps://soundcloud.com/miki-g-1/sets/the-rub-bootlegs

If Reni had assembled a decent group, the Rub would have been great. He had the songs and the voice, but not a band. What a waste that none of those songs have ever come out in any form.

I was told many moons ago that Reni was kind of pushed into those gigs to try and quickly raise some funds and after not making any money on the gigs and no record labels breaking down his door he retreated back to his drug den, sorry - home. Also, been told he doesn't stick around after gigs because he's scared of relapsing.
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Therubandatug
Therubandatug

July 8th, 2017, 5:41 pm #2

Im not really certain the songs were any good.
For a man who people claim to be a very talented musician his output since the roses is a big fat zero.
says it all really.
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NeedlesEye
NeedlesEye

July 8th, 2017, 6:34 pm #3

I think those songs were great - just not presented live as good as they should have been. Reni was like a man possessed at those gigs. He made a point of signing someone's ticket with "I ain't no fucking junkie", but after the persisent rumours and him looking like a textbook smack rat well yeah!

I can't see Reni doing solo stuff again at least live, even after the "return" with the Roses. I think his "altered state of mind" gave him a confidence to perform live out front, which he wouldn't normally have had. Maybe I'm wrong - but he was kinda confrontational and kind of out there during those gigs.

I can't remember if it was rumoured that Leckie wanted to produce Reni - or was that just someone's suggestion? Intrigued to know more of what really happened after those gigs.
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Therubandtug
Therubandtug

July 8th, 2017, 7:25 pm #4

He probably would have been the most interesting solo project. He could have played every instrument and sang as well.
It's actually his guitar playing that stands out for me.
But he done fuck all.
There used to be a photo kicking around on a roses website of him onstage that left you in no doubt of his herion addiction.
Despite the ill feeling between him and Ian. Ian never once mentioned his habit. There is a slight reference on johns first solo record.
It's probably the smack that led to his no shows at roses photo shoots and rehearsals and it's probably why the band used loops.
You had john on the white, Ian on the green and Reni on the brown. And mani on all three. Didn't help matters
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Anon
Anon

July 8th, 2017, 7:37 pm #5

I recall an interview where Ian was asked about Reni's heroin addiction, and he said something like 'well, he wasn't getting up till 8pm'
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Me
Me

July 8th, 2017, 9:03 pm #6

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J
J

July 9th, 2017, 12:35 am #7

I recall an interview where Ian was asked about Reni's heroin addiction, and he said something like 'well, he wasn't getting up till 8pm'
I read that interview earlier:

Reni left first. Rumour has it he was on heroin…
“Yeah. Well, he didn’t get up until 9 o’clock every night.”

Can you confirm the smack stories?
“Not really. It’s one thing we’ve never really talked about because he’s got kids and he’s never really done an interview since. It’s down to him.”

Fair enough. But there was heroin in the Roses camp?
“It ended up being, yeah. And that’s what probably also fucked it all up because you can’t play with junkies. Unless you’re all junkies.”

Quite shocking really
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Vape Man
Vape Man

July 9th, 2017, 10:27 am #8

I think those songs were great - just not presented live as good as they should have been. Reni was like a man possessed at those gigs. He made a point of signing someone's ticket with "I ain't no fucking junkie", but after the persisent rumours and him looking like a textbook smack rat well yeah!

I can't see Reni doing solo stuff again at least live, even after the "return" with the Roses. I think his "altered state of mind" gave him a confidence to perform live out front, which he wouldn't normally have had. Maybe I'm wrong - but he was kinda confrontational and kind of out there during those gigs.

I can't remember if it was rumoured that Leckie wanted to produce Reni - or was that just someone's suggestion? Intrigued to know more of what really happened after those gigs.
I feel bad for Reni if that is true, horrible drug for anyone to have addiction problems with. It really has no benefits at all, unlike marijuana which can be so inspiring and has many benifits when used properly and not mixed wit tobacco, which is almost as horrible a drug as heroin!
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Zammo
Zammo

July 9th, 2017, 12:26 pm #9

Yeah herion has no prejudice. It's doesn't matter if your a talented millionaire or a skint down and out. It can ruin anybody.
Be careful kids
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stiv
stiv

July 9th, 2017, 12:42 pm #10

it sounds like he's been clean for years now though, so why are there still problems?
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