Yet another F-4E question FC 68-493

Yet another F-4E question FC 68-493

Joined: October 19th, 2008, 8:02 pm

August 26th, 2011, 5:05 pm #1

Hi everyone.
I am hoping to find some info on a MiG killer F-4E. I have searched everywhere and cannot come up with anything on it. The aircraft I am interested in is 68-493 with FC tail code.

I will be using Superscales decal sheet 48-167. The image is posted below.

What I want to ask is: Is that particular set of markings during the Vietnam war or after the war?

I know the kill marking was added after the kill but did the plane fly in Vietnam with the kill marking or was it added after the war?

What about the FC tail code, was it based in SE Asia with the FC?

Was the sharkmouth on the plane during the war before the kill or was it added afterwards?

Thanks for any help.

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Joined: December 22nd, 2009, 9:29 pm

August 26th, 2011, 7:04 pm #2

F-4E 68-0493 shot down a mig21 on 5th october 1972.
Capt. Richard E. Coe and 1st. Lt. Omri K. Webb callsign 'Robin 01'
AIM-7-E2 sparrow.
34th T.F.S 388th T.F.W.
Aircraft wore sharkmouth, but tail code was JJ.
FC tail code was worn later when aircraft assigned to the 18th T.F.S. 43rd T.F.W. when it participated in william tell '76
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Joined: October 19th, 2008, 8:02 pm

August 26th, 2011, 7:05 pm #3

Hi everyone.
I am hoping to find some info on a MiG killer F-4E. I have searched everywhere and cannot come up with anything on it. The aircraft I am interested in is 68-493 with FC tail code.

I will be using Superscales decal sheet 48-167. The image is posted below.

What I want to ask is: Is that particular set of markings during the Vietnam war or after the war?

I know the kill marking was added after the kill but did the plane fly in Vietnam with the kill marking or was it added after the war?

What about the FC tail code, was it based in SE Asia with the FC?

Was the sharkmouth on the plane during the war before the kill or was it added afterwards?

Thanks for any help.

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that FC 68-493 was a slatted wing F-4E. The kit I have is an unslatted F-4E. I have alternative decals for an unslatted F-4E so I will go with those instead.

Thanks Robert.
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Joined: October 19th, 2008, 8:02 pm

August 26th, 2011, 7:08 pm #4

F-4E 68-0493 shot down a mig21 on 5th october 1972.
Capt. Richard E. Coe and 1st. Lt. Omri K. Webb callsign 'Robin 01'
AIM-7-E2 sparrow.
34th T.F.S 388th T.F.W.
Aircraft wore sharkmouth, but tail code was JJ.
FC tail code was worn later when aircraft assigned to the 18th T.F.S. 43rd T.F.W. when it participated in william tell '76
slatted wings when it shot down the MiG or were the slats retrofitted when it came back after the MiG kill?
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Joined: February 28th, 2005, 3:20 pm

August 27th, 2011, 3:48 pm #5

that FC 68-493 was a slatted wing F-4E. The kit I have is an unslatted F-4E. I have alternative decals for an unslatted F-4E so I will go with those instead.

Thanks Robert.
. . . that the slatted-wing F-4E was later than the war.
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Joined: March 10th, 2010, 7:44 pm

August 28th, 2011, 3:05 am #6

Hi everyone.
I am hoping to find some info on a MiG killer F-4E. I have searched everywhere and cannot come up with anything on it. The aircraft I am interested in is 68-493 with FC tail code.

I will be using Superscales decal sheet 48-167. The image is posted below.

What I want to ask is: Is that particular set of markings during the Vietnam war or after the war?

I know the kill marking was added after the kill but did the plane fly in Vietnam with the kill marking or was it added after the war?

What about the FC tail code, was it based in SE Asia with the FC?

Was the sharkmouth on the plane during the war before the kill or was it added afterwards?

Thanks for any help.

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The 43rd TFS was stationed at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska. I was there from 1978 to 1980 and have photos of almost every one of their aircraft. Have some photos posted on photo bucket, but can't remember how to post them here. Don't I use the control key & the letter C to post them here? It's been awhile since I did it. I think the bird you're modeling was when the 43rd went to William Tell exercise in 1976 but don't quote me. Tell me & I'll post some for you/everyone. Also---the 43rd had their tail tip painted gold while the 18th had their painted a very light blue. Also have a 18th F-4E with 2 MiG kills along with both squadrons having "kills" from Maple Leaf & Red Flag exercises.


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Joined: March 2nd, 2005, 2:55 pm

August 28th, 2011, 3:32 am #7

slatted wings when it shot down the MiG or were the slats retrofitted when it came back after the MiG kill?
According to Osprey's UASF F-4 Phantom II MiG Killers 1972 - 73, she did not get the slats until 1974 just before being assigned to the 3TFW at Clark AFB Philippines.
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Joined: March 10th, 2010, 7:44 pm

August 28th, 2011, 4:57 am #8

Hi everyone.
I am hoping to find some info on a MiG killer F-4E. I have searched everywhere and cannot come up with anything on it. The aircraft I am interested in is 68-493 with FC tail code.

I will be using Superscales decal sheet 48-167. The image is posted below.

What I want to ask is: Is that particular set of markings during the Vietnam war or after the war?

I know the kill marking was added after the kill but did the plane fly in Vietnam with the kill marking or was it added after the war?

What about the FC tail code, was it based in SE Asia with the FC?

Was the sharkmouth on the plane during the war before the kill or was it added afterwards?

Thanks for any help.

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Will see if I can find your specific F-4. Was stationed at Elmendorf 1987--1980. The decals you have is when the 43rd went to William Tell exercise back in 1976 or there about. The 43rd has the tail tip pained gold while the 18th uses a light blue.
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Joined: August 16th, 2006, 2:23 am

August 28th, 2011, 6:56 am #9

slatted wings when it shot down the MiG or were the slats retrofitted when it came back after the MiG kill?
Also, IIRC, the Vietnam birds did not have the long cannon muzzle fairing.
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Joined: October 19th, 2008, 8:02 pm

August 28th, 2011, 12:28 pm #10

According to Osprey's UASF F-4 Phantom II MiG Killers 1972 - 73, she did not get the slats until 1974 just before being assigned to the 3TFW at Clark AFB Philippines.
Thanks Mark!
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