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XP-72 and production P-72

Joined: June 22nd, 2009, 10:44 pm

April 12th, 2012, 8:09 pm #1

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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Joined: January 26th, 2004, 9:36 pm

April 12th, 2012, 8:29 pm #2

If the war had not ended with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I can see squadron's of Iwo Jima based Ultra Bolts escorting B-29's and flying top cover to sweep the sky of the Kamakazes attacking the invasion fleet. Hmm, sounds like the stuff for an alternative history WIF build.

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Joined: April 1st, 2004, 4:01 am

April 12th, 2012, 8:59 pm #3

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
Here's my "1946" version - 56th FG Mike Gladych's Pengie VI. Another terrific conversion kit from Bill Koster.









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Joined: March 4th, 2005, 2:16 am

April 12th, 2012, 9:54 pm #4

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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XP-72 left rear 3-4

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
Warren Bodie's "Thunderbolt, From Seversky to Victory."
One thing a lot oof folks miss is the main landing gear being lengthened and moved outboard. Never have found an actual measurement. Guess the N wings would have accomplished the same thing.

Curt
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Joined: June 22nd, 2009, 10:44 pm

April 12th, 2012, 10:33 pm #5

he told Bodie the true story of the prototype crash, but Bodie chose tell a different story. My copy of Bodie's book is in storage, so I can't tell you what was written, but Ken said it was wrong.
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Joined: January 26th, 2004, 7:42 pm

April 13th, 2012, 1:56 am #6

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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XP-72 left rear 3-4

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
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Bash of the Academy D bubbletop w/ Alliance's (short run resin) fuselage, less the tail.


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Joined: March 3rd, 2005, 1:40 am

April 13th, 2012, 2:15 am #7

Warren Bodie's "Thunderbolt, From Seversky to Victory."
One thing a lot oof folks miss is the main landing gear being lengthened and moved outboard. Never have found an actual measurement. Guess the N wings would have accomplished the same thing.

Curt
KVPS
The oleo scissors faced inboard and the main wheel doors were shaped differently -  as in the XP-47J. 

<font>My "ultimate P-47" would have been the XP-47J with a bubble canopy.  Oh well.</font>

<font>Jim  </font>


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Joined: March 2nd, 2005, 6:36 pm

April 13th, 2012, 4:15 am #8

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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XP-72 left rear 3-4

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XP-72 left front 3-4

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
I just started cutting up a Tamiya 48th Bubbletop kit to use with Koster's conversion. I'd love to see bigger pictures of your model, as well as any digital references you'd be willing to share.

Mike B
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Joined: February 28th, 2005, 7:32 pm

April 13th, 2012, 10:47 am #9

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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XP-72 left rear 3-4

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XP-72 left front 3-4

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
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Joined: March 4th, 2005, 2:03 pm

April 13th, 2012, 10:53 am #10

A number of years ago I did some rather serious research on the XP-72, the R-4360-powered, low-to-medium-altitude version of the immortal P-47 Thunderbolt. This research was for an anticipated kit in 1/48th scale which, unfortunately, never came to life.

During that research I had the honor of interviewing Ken Jernstedt, former AVG/Flying Tigers pilot and one of the two main test pilots on the P-72 project. To say he was a wealth of information would certainly be an understatement. He shared many things, including the true story of the crash landing of one of the prototypes (that has yet to be accurately recounted) and, from a modelers standpoint, the news that Republic intended to have the final version of the P-72 fitted with P-47N wings!

I wont get into the history of the aircraft. That has been told in detail (although some of the details are obviously wrong) elsewhere. Perhaps Ill go into that in a later post. The purpose of this post is to share a variety of photos and artwork for both versions.

Some words of caution. The photos of the XP-72 buildup of the Koster conversion are a bit hinky. The tail wheel broke off and I couldnt find it and needed to get the photos taken. Thus the nose is too high. Still, it is a beautiful aircraft. The original side and top drawings of the anticipated final version are to 1/48 scale. Fitting them to both Photobucket and ARCs size requirements has resulted in them being oddly sized, but still give a clear idea of what the final beast would have looked like. The drawings are not meant to be precise and totally accurate in all dimensions. This is probably especially true with the wings in the top view that I had to fiddle with for the right span.

I hope you enjoy them.

Alan Griffith

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XP-72 left rear 3-4

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XP-72 left front 3-4

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P-72 anticipated production version plan view

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P-72 anticipated production version right side
I was once considering doing a what-if of the 72 with N wings. I was also going to include either the N spine or enlarge the tail a little. I had no idea this was a real proposal!

Cool!
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