Which 1/72nd B-17G better , Airfix or Revell/Germany ?

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Which 1/72nd B-17G better , Airfix or Revell/Germany ?

Joined: May 19th, 2013, 1:32 pm

June 11th, 2018, 10:58 pm #1

Hello  fellow Hyperscalers , trying to figure out which B-17G is better . Any input would be appreciated , Thanks , Tony
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Joined: April 23rd, 2018, 1:21 am

June 11th, 2018, 11:34 pm #2

Going on the pics of the kits I'd say Airfix.
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Joined: January 27th, 2004, 5:18 pm

June 12th, 2018, 1:56 am #3

I will openly admit my bias as I was part of the team that helped with R & D on the Airfix kit... but the Airfix kit is light years beyond the Revell kit.  There are still a few small aggravations on it, particularly the Cheyenne tail turret glass which splits down the middle, but overall it is a remarkable bit of engineering of which I'm immensely proud to have assisted.

Lynn
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Joined: May 19th, 2013, 1:32 pm

June 12th, 2018, 2:21 am #4

Thank you gentlemen for your help !  Any chance of an F model on the horizon ?   I know the British version is next !   Tony
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Joined: July 2nd, 2005, 5:44 pm

June 12th, 2018, 3:14 am #5

Just checked Paul Boyer's build review of both kits in FSM. Aiirfix is a later model G with Cheyenne tail turret and enclosed staggered waist gun positions. ROG is an early model G with standard tail turret and unstaggered waist gun positions. Both kits feature well rendered interiors, moveable control surfaces and rather well done clear parts. Airfix has optional position landing gear. Both kits fit together well when built. Airfix is a little more difficult to construct due to engineering of parts breakdown. Airfix instructions are better rendered than ROG. Paul noted just a couple of minor niggles with the two kits. Airfix: Difficulty getting the small side windows in the nose to fit properly. ROG: Panel line engraving somewhat heavy handed.
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Joined: January 31st, 2010, 6:01 am

June 12th, 2018, 3:35 am #6

If I recall correctly, the ROG has a slight parts count edge, and detail (that's hidden when built!) of the "bridge frame" wing structure. From a kit-building/ finished model standpoint, the Airfix "looks more like a Queen". Either is far better than the old Hasagawa or sadly, the 1/48th Monogram. Enjoy!
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Joined: November 17th, 2006, 1:18 pm

June 12th, 2018, 5:52 am #7

Another vote, I guess, for Airfix. Have both and both have some issues. But haven't built either. And if it matters, the Airfix is in the neighborhood of 50-55 USD w/ the 6-7 yrs older RoG going for 35-40.

I think the Airfix panel lines are still too prominent/wide, but not as bad as RoG's, which prob ain't saying much. From a foot away, 72 feet in 1:1, ya wouldn't see many panel lines. There are sink marks w/ the RoG. On the wings. The Airfix details/molding looks soft to me. Not Hasegawa sharp.
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Joined: February 3rd, 2004, 5:28 am

June 12th, 2018, 9:15 am #8

Ultimately it depends on which variant of B-17 you're looking to build. I've built both for a 1/72 91st BG display, and both were enjoyable builds.

- Dennis S.
  Thornton, CO USA
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Joined: January 27th, 2004, 5:18 pm

June 12th, 2018, 12:02 pm #9

The biggest issue with the Revell kit, and the one thing that really jumps out at folks who know Forts, is that the wing is too thick, which completely throws off the proportions of the mid-fuselage.  Well, "completely" is relative- I mean, it still looks like a B-17, obviously, it didn't magically transform into a Short Stirling.  But if accuracy is your bag, the Airfix kit is the way to go.  You can build any mark from a G-70-BO onwards; you get both versions of inboard exhausts, and "knock out" panels to build the earlier "smooth wing" which used boilers for cabin heating, or the later vents on the inboard upper wings with the corresponding finned heat exchangers on the inboard exhaust tubing for the later forced hot air systems.  Airfix also gives you complete wheel wells and I believe they included the Mickey PFF radome as an option in the kit; plus, you get parts to build it wheels up in an in-flight pose if desired.  Oh, and the entire upper canopy and nose panels are molded clear, to minimize the possibility of losing/damaging those small windows.  Like I said, I'm really proud of being part of the team that developed it - my partners were Jon Brawner and Karl Hauffe, both of whom served for years as crew chiefs on active B-17s (Jon on "Chuckie", Karl on "Sentimental Journey").

And to the poster who noted the panel lines aren't as sharp as Hasegawa, that's a fair point.  Airfix uses a softer plastic for their kits which plays directly into this issue.

Cheers,

Lynn
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Joined: May 19th, 2013, 2:03 am

June 12th, 2018, 4:15 pm #10

I have the Airfix kit but havent built it.  It looks superior to the Revell kits I've seen built.  The nose and cheeks of the Revell kit look off to me.
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