USS Texas leaking

USS Texas leaking

Joined: August 12th, 2004, 3:14 pm

June 12th, 2012, 2:38 pm #1

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Joined: April 21st, 2005, 4:12 pm

June 12th, 2012, 5:07 pm #2

Is that a new nautical term? Does he actually know the ship wasn't designed to last 100 years?
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Joined: August 12th, 2004, 3:14 pm

June 12th, 2012, 5:41 pm #3

with the Aurora and saw her in half at the waterline and weld the old top onto a new, modern, lower hull...
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 2:45 am

June 13th, 2012, 5:21 pm #4

Or they could just dry dock it, and fake the water. n/t
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Joined: April 25th, 2005, 12:47 am

June 14th, 2012, 4:46 pm #5

Using that expandable foam like we use in attics to fill the tanks?

Owen
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Joined: October 2nd, 2004, 2:57 am

June 14th, 2012, 11:31 pm #6

That would be a last extreme option. The area between the foam and the hull would have to be absolutely bone dry lest the rusting continue where it couldn't be reached. The compartments would also be forever full of foam and inaccessible. Perhaps the fuel tanks which were incompletely drained and cleaned (63 years ago). But then there is that pesky left over fuel problem in today's environment.


The plan to settle her onto a bed sand on the bottom of the drained slough is among the only viable options unless she is to be imbedded in concrete -- which has its own hull corrosion problems. The Texas Department of Parks will have to accelerate its plans -- but there is no money. Our governor (you remember him, Mr "Oops" Perry!) has been playing a shell game with the states finances and its all coming home to roost.

On a somewhat related note -- my Organic Chemistry professor had the process patent on styrofoam (think royalties for every coffee cup sold). He worked on a proof of concept salvage project with the Navy. Pump the component liquid materials which react to make styrofoam down into a wrecked ship, let them mix and foam, and viola, the ship pops to the surface. Sounds good in theory. Trouble is the stuff is at pressure of so many atmospheres at so many feet deep. Those thousands of styrofoam beads are compressed. As the ship rises and the pressure goes down the beads start to expand. At the surface the pressure of the beads will be enough to rip apart structures. Dr Wilson saw that happen. Navy didn't proceed with the project
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Joined: April 25th, 2005, 12:47 am

June 15th, 2012, 12:59 am #7

Well how did they stop leaks in the old days. They did it while at sea under battle conditions didn't they?
I assume they welded a plate over the outside of the hole.
They can't do it now?
I live in NYC and all I hear is how the city has no money, Just our bridge tolls are going over ten dollars, it's amazing, where's the money going?

Owen
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Joined: October 2nd, 2004, 2:57 am

June 15th, 2012, 2:26 am #8

2000 men were available to stuff mattresses, wooden bungs and shoring timbers into the holes and keep pumping. Weldment patches were not an at-sea/ships force type of fix. Get it to a repair ship/repair yard.

The short-term fix for the Texas will be to weld-patches over the holes -- if they can get to them (i.e. the ship isn't resting on them - on the bottom.

Back in the '80s she spent almost 2 years in a drydock in Galveston having a lot of her bottom replaced. She almost sank getting there. That drydock isn't available any more, and the nearest is near New Orleans. She is currently too fragile to hazard an open water tow.

A boat needs constant bottom upkeep to maintain integrity. It has been said that a boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money. A ship is a larger hole which takes more money.
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Joined: April 19th, 2009, 1:09 am

June 15th, 2012, 3:36 am #9

Is that a new nautical term? Does he actually know the ship wasn't designed to last 100 years?
Leaning to the left...must be a democrat ship...n/t
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