Need help with alcad2 and solvaset reacting badly.

Joined: April 6th, 2017, 9:05 pm

December 6th, 2017, 8:18 pm #1

Is there a way I can protect the alclad2 before applying my decals and solvaset? I did use future over the Alclad2 chrome but the solvent ate through the future to the Alclad2 chrome and discolored it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Steve
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Joined: February 28th, 2017, 9:08 pm

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December 6th, 2017, 8:41 pm #2

I use your technique without problems. Perhaps the Future was not adequately cured. I wait at least 24 hours before decaling. Might try a less aggressive decal solvent such as Micro Sol.
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Joined: February 26th, 2005, 11:17 pm

Which Alclad shade(s) did you use?

December 6th, 2017, 9:28 pm #3

Is there a way I can protect the alclad2 before applying my decals and solvaset? I did use future over the Alclad2 chrome but the solvent ate through the future to the Alclad2 chrome and discolored it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Steve
Their High Shine shades are alcohol-based, as opposed to lacquer based of the regular ones, and will be discolored by decal solvent. I found out the hard way after applying Micro-Sol to Alclad Stainless Steel.

http://alclad2.com/finishes/high-shine/

But all is not lost. Alclad's Aqua Gloss clear coat was designed specifically to protect High Shine paints from decal solvents and works great. I use Aqua Gloss as my standard clear gloss now for all finishes. If you do use it just be sure to follow the directions, especially the part about flushing your airbrush with water immediately after use.

Eric
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Joined: April 6th, 2017, 9:05 pm

Thank you Mike! I was think that was what the problem could have been but wast sure. :O)

December 6th, 2017, 9:53 pm #4

I use your technique without problems. Perhaps the Future was not adequately cured. I wait at least 24 hours before decaling. Might try a less aggressive decal solvent such as Micro Sol.
Will try the Micro Sol next time :O)
Thank you again Mike, Merry Christmas, Steve Cook :O)
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Joined: April 6th, 2017, 9:05 pm

I do happen to have a brand new bottle!! :O)

December 6th, 2017, 10:00 pm #5

Their High Shine shades are alcohol-based, as opposed to lacquer based of the regular ones, and will be discolored by decal solvent. I found out the hard way after applying Micro-Sol to Alclad Stainless Steel.

http://alclad2.com/finishes/high-shine/

But all is not lost. Alclad's Aqua Gloss clear coat was designed specifically to protect High Shine paints from decal solvents and works great. I use Aqua Gloss as my standard clear gloss now for all finishes. If you do use it just be sure to follow the directions, especially the part about flushing your airbrush with water immediately after use.

Eric
I will flush it with water right afterwords. I was using Alclad2 chrome. I do know the complete application process and I do know about the high shine ones that do not work very well with the harsher solvents. Will definitely use the aqua gloss first before adding my decals, and let it dry fore a t least 24 hours.
Thank you Eric, your help is most appreciated.
Happy Holidays, and best regards, Steve Cook :O)
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Joined: December 7th, 2009, 12:13 pm

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December 7th, 2017, 12:32 pm #6

Is there a way I can protect the alclad2 before applying my decals and solvaset? I did use future over the Alclad2 chrome but the solvent ate through the future to the Alclad2 chrome and discolored it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Steve
Hi Steve:

30 some years ago I was taught to mix a new bottle of "MicroSet" with a new bottle of "MicroSol" into a larger bottle and mix it up and re-fill the smaller bottles.

Next, I apply this new mix to "ANY" decal after it has come out of my clean water and is ready to be slid onto the model after the "Future" has dried for a few days.

Next, I apply some of this new mix on the area of the model, where the decal is to go. I add more "Set/Sol" mix to the area and position the decal, then use ordinary toilet paper to blot off the excess fluid.

A few minutes later I apply clean water and wash off the decal with a 1/4", 1/2" and/or a 1" soft brush. I blot this are dry and come back in a couple of minutes to check out the decal and add any "Set/Sol" mix if necessary, if not, the the decal is finished.

This method has worked for me on "ALL" brands of paint.

I have built over 300 models since 1984 using this method and still today the decals look like they were put on the model yesterday.

I "never" used "Solvaset" in the early 1980's nor have I ever used it and/or anything else but the "Set/Sol" mix!

Rodney
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Joined: April 6th, 2017, 9:05 pm

WOW!! Awesome!! That is one of the best tips I have received in along time!! Thank you!!

December 7th, 2017, 7:05 pm #7

WOW!! Awesome!! That is one of the best tips I have received in along time!! Thank you!!
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