Grumman FF-1 Confusion

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Grumman FF-1 Confusion

Joined: December 20th, 2006, 2:03 pm

July 14th, 2012, 3:03 pm #1

I recently picked up the Special Hobby kit and I'm a little confused by what's in the box. It looks to me like the cockpit depicts an FF-2 because of the dual controls so I plan to leave out the stick, rudder pedals and instrument panel from the rear cockpit. What I can't tell from my limited resources is whether or not the .30 cal. should be mounted in the rear cockpit on the FF-1 fighter version. Does anyone know for sure? I'm guessing yes, otherwise why was the rear seater even there? Some references list the armament as 2 .30 cals. though, and that would account for the two forward-facing guns only, unless they're mistakenly referring to the FF-2 which had one forward-firing gun removed to make room for more fuel. Confused? Join the club!

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Joined: February 26th, 2005, 11:27 pm

July 14th, 2012, 3:42 pm #2

1 .50 on the right side plus another .30 for the back seater.
I can't find anything regarding back seat controls, but the GIB could face front too, so I guess dual controls are possible.
Other Grummans of the day had them.
(If in doubt, leave them out, the stick was removable anyway)

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July 14th, 2012, 4:16 pm #3

I recently picked up the Special Hobby kit and I'm a little confused by what's in the box. It looks to me like the cockpit depicts an FF-2 because of the dual controls so I plan to leave out the stick, rudder pedals and instrument panel from the rear cockpit. What I can't tell from my limited resources is whether or not the .30 cal. should be mounted in the rear cockpit on the FF-1 fighter version. Does anyone know for sure? I'm guessing yes, otherwise why was the rear seater even there? Some references list the armament as 2 .30 cals. though, and that would account for the two forward-facing guns only, unless they're mistakenly referring to the FF-2 which had one forward-firing gun removed to make room for more fuel. Confused? Join the club!

Dan
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July 14th, 2012, 5:10 pm #4

I recently picked up the Special Hobby kit and I'm a little confused by what's in the box. It looks to me like the cockpit depicts an FF-2 because of the dual controls so I plan to leave out the stick, rudder pedals and instrument panel from the rear cockpit. What I can't tell from my limited resources is whether or not the .30 cal. should be mounted in the rear cockpit on the FF-1 fighter version. Does anyone know for sure? I'm guessing yes, otherwise why was the rear seater even there? Some references list the armament as 2 .30 cals. though, and that would account for the two forward-facing guns only, unless they're mistakenly referring to the FF-2 which had one forward-firing gun removed to make room for more fuel. Confused? Join the club!

Dan
Grumman built 27 FF-1(Grumman design G-5) two-seat fighters ans they were issues to VF-5B on the Lexington. After Fleet deployment 22 surviving FF-1s were converted to two-seat dual-control) trainers and designated FF-2s(Grumman design G-5). The FF-1 rear gunner had a swivelling .30 cal and a swivelling seat. Adios, Larry.

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Joined: December 20th, 2006, 2:03 pm

July 14th, 2012, 5:49 pm #5

I recently picked up the Special Hobby kit and I'm a little confused by what's in the box. It looks to me like the cockpit depicts an FF-2 because of the dual controls so I plan to leave out the stick, rudder pedals and instrument panel from the rear cockpit. What I can't tell from my limited resources is whether or not the .30 cal. should be mounted in the rear cockpit on the FF-1 fighter version. Does anyone know for sure? I'm guessing yes, otherwise why was the rear seater even there? Some references list the armament as 2 .30 cals. though, and that would account for the two forward-facing guns only, unless they're mistakenly referring to the FF-2 which had one forward-firing gun removed to make room for more fuel. Confused? Join the club!

Dan
I really appreciate the help.

Looks like Special Hobby have given us the externals of an FF-1 and the dual cockpits of an FF-2. Looks like it will be easy to leave a few parts out and have a true FF-1.

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