Eduard 1:48 109E landing gear caution

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Eduard 1:48 109E landing gear caution

Joined: February 27th, 2005, 4:34 pm

March 15th, 2012, 5:14 pm #1

The other day Jamie Haggo posted some pictures of his newly completed Eduard 1:48 109E-1 on Plastic Pics.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... 8+new+tool

It was quickly pointed out to Jamie that the landing gear legs on his model did not have a forward rake to them as there was on the real thing. Jamie made a quick adjustment

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... s+adjusted

My Eduard kit just came and I did a quick dry fit of the landing gear legs and I have to say it would be very easy to get these legs at an improper angle. The locating stub for the legs is only 1mm long and there is no secure fit for proper outward or forward angle. There is a lot of play so be careful when you go to glue the legs on. -- Dave

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Joined: January 27th, 2004, 5:18 pm

March 15th, 2012, 5:24 pm #2

As I'm just about ready to get the gear on, I decided to investigate the "long gear legs" as reported on the Airfix kit. From photos, it does appear to be on tip-toes when installed without any mods, but the gear legs line up almost perfectly with those from other Emil kits. So why the problem?

When you look at the lower wing, I think the answer becomes clear... Airfix beefed up the inner gear well structure to give a more sturdy mounting surface for the gear legs, but in doing so, they actually LOWERED the mounting point for the gear legs further down than where they should be on the real aircraft. The fix is to scrub away the "plate" looking area where the gear mount pin fits, and that should square it away perfectly. I'm in the midst of this project and will report back.

Lynn
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Joined: February 24th, 2002, 4:17 pm

March 15th, 2012, 5:30 pm #3

The other day Jamie Haggo posted some pictures of his newly completed Eduard 1:48 109E-1 on Plastic Pics.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... 8+new+tool

It was quickly pointed out to Jamie that the landing gear legs on his model did not have a forward rake to them as there was on the real thing. Jamie made a quick adjustment

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... s+adjusted

My Eduard kit just came and I did a quick dry fit of the landing gear legs and I have to say it would be very easy to get these legs at an improper angle. The locating stub for the legs is only 1mm long and there is no secure fit for proper outward or forward angle. There is a lot of play so be careful when you go to glue the legs on. -- Dave












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Joined: February 24th, 2002, 4:17 pm

March 15th, 2012, 5:57 pm #4

The other day Jamie Haggo posted some pictures of his newly completed Eduard 1:48 109E-1 on Plastic Pics.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... 8+new+tool

It was quickly pointed out to Jamie that the landing gear legs on his model did not have a forward rake to them as there was on the real thing. Jamie made a quick adjustment

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... s+adjusted

My Eduard kit just came and I did a quick dry fit of the landing gear legs and I have to say it would be very easy to get these legs at an improper angle. The locating stub for the legs is only 1mm long and there is no secure fit for proper outward or forward angle. There is a lot of play so be careful when you go to glue the legs on. -- Dave




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Joined: December 27th, 2002, 3:39 am

March 15th, 2012, 6:04 pm #5

As I'm just about ready to get the gear on, I decided to investigate the "long gear legs" as reported on the Airfix kit. From photos, it does appear to be on tip-toes when installed without any mods, but the gear legs line up almost perfectly with those from other Emil kits. So why the problem?

When you look at the lower wing, I think the answer becomes clear... Airfix beefed up the inner gear well structure to give a more sturdy mounting surface for the gear legs, but in doing so, they actually LOWERED the mounting point for the gear legs further down than where they should be on the real aircraft. The fix is to scrub away the "plate" looking area where the gear mount pin fits, and that should square it away perfectly. I'm in the midst of this project and will report back.

Lynn
I was comparing Tamiya and Airfix struts over the weekend and thought they looked close...that would make sense
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March 15th, 2012, 6:54 pm #6

The other day Jamie Haggo posted some pictures of his newly completed Eduard 1:48 109E-1 on Plastic Pics.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... 8+new+tool

It was quickly pointed out to Jamie that the landing gear legs on his model did not have a forward rake to them as there was on the real thing. Jamie made a quick adjustment

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... s+adjusted

My Eduard kit just came and I did a quick dry fit of the landing gear legs and I have to say it would be very easy to get these legs at an improper angle. The locating stub for the legs is only 1mm long and there is no secure fit for proper outward or forward angle. There is a lot of play so be careful when you go to glue the legs on. -- Dave
...very interesting.

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Joined: December 27th, 2002, 3:39 am

March 15th, 2012, 6:54 pm #7

As I'm just about ready to get the gear on, I decided to investigate the "long gear legs" as reported on the Airfix kit. From photos, it does appear to be on tip-toes when installed without any mods, but the gear legs line up almost perfectly with those from other Emil kits. So why the problem?

When you look at the lower wing, I think the answer becomes clear... Airfix beefed up the inner gear well structure to give a more sturdy mounting surface for the gear legs, but in doing so, they actually LOWERED the mounting point for the gear legs further down than where they should be on the real aircraft. The fix is to scrub away the "plate" looking area where the gear mount pin fits, and that should square it away perfectly. I'm in the midst of this project and will report back.

Lynn
Using the back of the gear strut as my point the Airfix strut still comes out 2mm longer than a Tamiya or Hasegawa kits. That's not counting the mounting tabs each kit FYI.

Ain't measured the Eduard yet...parts still in the bag sealed and I'm getting ready for work...
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March 15th, 2012, 7:15 pm #8





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Your comparison looks pretty good to me- I certainly get the idea.

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Joined: February 24th, 2002, 4:17 pm

March 15th, 2012, 7:20 pm #9

Even after he corrected for angle, it sits a bit high.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/me ... s+adjusted





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Joined: January 27th, 2004, 5:18 pm

March 15th, 2012, 7:39 pm #10

Using the back of the gear strut as my point the Airfix strut still comes out 2mm longer than a Tamiya or Hasegawa kits. That's not counting the mounting tabs each kit FYI.

Ain't measured the Eduard yet...parts still in the bag sealed and I'm getting ready for work...
The Airfix strut has a little bit of the mounting structure right at the very top, which the others do not... if it weren't for that "platform" in the gear well, I think it would sit just right. If you measure the struts again from the line just beneath that mounting pin landing (on the Airfix kit), I think you'll find it comes out almost bang-on.

Lynn

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