Cockpit Color on the Ki-61 Hien??????????????

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Cockpit Color on the Ki-61 Hien??????????????

Joined: May 4th, 2005, 6:32 pm

April 9th, 2012, 8:56 pm #1

I have the Hasegawa 32nd scale kit and am doing it up in Kobayashi's markings over Bare Metal Foil. The instructions call for a light yellow / sand color overall cockpit interior with certain panels and boxes in black. But I was looking through research last night and Don Thorpe's classic on Japanese Army Aircraft published by Aero Books says the cockpit color is that metallic blue green. I always thought the metallic blue and the metallic green were for Japanese navy stuff and the army stuff was different, based on the factory where the plane was manufactured. I have other volumes I'm going to hit when I get back home from the office tonight; they should answer the question. Any definitive thoughts in the meantime (I should probably know this...) Thanks, Steve
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 1:47 pm

April 9th, 2012, 9:02 pm #2

Tan, green, aotaki, or a funky light blue ...
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Joined: January 8th, 2011, 10:50 pm

April 9th, 2012, 9:36 pm #3

I think it goes more by manufacturer than anything else. Most references I came across online when I was building the cockpit on my Hein pointed to an earthy brown, so i just used something I had handy and looked approximate. That was a while ago and Id be lying to say I know where those were all found, but j-aircraft.com is an excellent place to look for such info.

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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 12:37 am

April 9th, 2012, 10:43 pm #4

Just because of the pics of the Hein interior IN the Mekish Japanese interiors book. I'm not sure if there is any true consensus about which is absolutely correct.
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Joined: February 28th, 2005, 5:27 am

April 9th, 2012, 10:45 pm #5

I have the Hasegawa 32nd scale kit and am doing it up in Kobayashi's markings over Bare Metal Foil. The instructions call for a light yellow / sand color overall cockpit interior with certain panels and boxes in black. But I was looking through research last night and Don Thorpe's classic on Japanese Army Aircraft published by Aero Books says the cockpit color is that metallic blue green. I always thought the metallic blue and the metallic green were for Japanese navy stuff and the army stuff was different, based on the factory where the plane was manufactured. I have other volumes I'm going to hit when I get back home from the office tonight; they should answer the question. Any definitive thoughts in the meantime (I should probably know this...) Thanks, Steve
Do a google search for "RLM 79 Ki-61" and you'll find a lot of articles on it.

Whether one company's RLM 79 is better than another company's is just to damn nit-picky for me.

http://agapemodels.com/?p=1995
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Joined: March 2nd, 2005, 10:23 pm

April 9th, 2012, 11:00 pm #6

I have the Hasegawa 32nd scale kit and am doing it up in Kobayashi's markings over Bare Metal Foil. The instructions call for a light yellow / sand color overall cockpit interior with certain panels and boxes in black. But I was looking through research last night and Don Thorpe's classic on Japanese Army Aircraft published by Aero Books says the cockpit color is that metallic blue green. I always thought the metallic blue and the metallic green were for Japanese navy stuff and the army stuff was different, based on the factory where the plane was manufactured. I have other volumes I'm going to hit when I get back home from the office tonight; they should answer the question. Any definitive thoughts in the meantime (I should probably know this...) Thanks, Steve
The consensus now is that the Hien's cockpit was a yellow-brown or sand color (not light yellow) overall, with some details in other colors. Robert Mikesh's excellent Japanese Aircraft Interiors 1940-1945 (Monogram Aviation Publications [USA], 2001; 328 pages) suggests -- but does not state categorically -- that the Ki-61's cockpit may have been the tan color labeled "A35" in his color chart, which looks a lot like RLM 79 to me.

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Joined: July 30th, 2005, 8:07 am

April 10th, 2012, 1:00 am #7

I have the Hasegawa 32nd scale kit and am doing it up in Kobayashi's markings over Bare Metal Foil. The instructions call for a light yellow / sand color overall cockpit interior with certain panels and boxes in black. But I was looking through research last night and Don Thorpe's classic on Japanese Army Aircraft published by Aero Books says the cockpit color is that metallic blue green. I always thought the metallic blue and the metallic green were for Japanese navy stuff and the army stuff was different, based on the factory where the plane was manufactured. I have other volumes I'm going to hit when I get back home from the office tonight; they should answer the question. Any definitive thoughts in the meantime (I should probably know this...) Thanks, Steve
I have access to a nicely preserved Ki61 control stick, and the colour match, as close to perfect, is Gunzes RLM 79 sand

I consider this information to be definitive for a Ki61 ( but not necessarily correct for a Ki100)
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Joined: May 4th, 2005, 6:32 pm

April 10th, 2012, 2:43 am #8

Gosharoonie Dave!!! If it causes so much stress then don't reply; cheers mate... :-)
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Joined: July 30th, 2005, 8:07 am

April 10th, 2012, 4:38 am #9

maybe I should do a HS article on it so its easily searched in the database?
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Joined: March 7th, 2005, 6:33 pm

April 10th, 2012, 5:22 am #10

I have access to a nicely preserved Ki61 control stick, and the colour match, as close to perfect, is Gunzes RLM 79 sand

I consider this information to be definitive for a Ki61 ( but not necessarily correct for a Ki100)
You SAW ONE piece from UNKNOWN airframe a this is DEFINITIVE proof
how Ki-61 cockpits were painted?
That's pretty bald, to say at least.
You know about IJAAF paint standards though I presume?
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