Bulgarian Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-4 after they changed sides

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Bulgarian Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-4 after they changed sides

Joined: February 28th, 2005, 10:42 am

July 15th, 2012, 9:13 pm #1

Here is the Link to a drawing I found while searching for something else.

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Giampiero

http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/air ... 4_003.html
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July 15th, 2012, 9:22 pm #2








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July 15th, 2012, 9:38 pm #3

Here is the Link to a drawing I found while searching for something else.

Saluti

Giampiero

http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/air ... 4_003.html
After they changed sides the Bulgarians retained the X on a white field, but changed the wingtip/belly band ID color from yellow to white (as did the Rumanians).
I believe the roundel shown is incorrect for 1944 or even early 1945. I would not mind being proven conclusively wrong, however, because I'd dearly love to mark a Bulgarian wartime aircraft that way.
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July 15th, 2012, 9:43 pm #4

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July 16th, 2012, 1:56 am #5

Here is the Link to a drawing I found while searching for something else.

Saluti

Giampiero

http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/air ... 4_003.html
I've never com across a picture of am E in those markings.

Without a reference, it is pure poppycock.



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July 16th, 2012, 12:56 pm #6

Check the photo on page 57 in Air Power of the Kingdom of Bulgaria Part IV, by Frank Ood.

I am not a 109 expert and will defer to higher authorities, but while the photo is captioned as a 109G-6, I do feel it could be an E model.

I can just discern the tail plane support struts and the way the lower radiator doors are shown, both lead me to feel it might possibly be an E.

I am open to suggestions otherwise.

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July 16th, 2012, 1:32 pm #7

The E had wing guns, and from that angle the right wing gun would probably be visible.

Also, the picture I have of the G-2/4 show a camouflage pattern similar to the one in the picture. I've not come across a picture ofan E model in other than the delivery scheme with the embellishment of fuselage flash and yellow marking.

The other reason I believe it a 2/4 and not a G-6 is because picture I've seen of the Bulgarian G-6 show the aircraft fitted with an RDF loop behind the mast. The 2/4 did not have this, as far as I know.



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July 16th, 2012, 1:47 pm #8

Notice the small cutout in the trailing edge of the radiator flap. This is a feature found on the E model and not seen on later variants.

I agree that wing guns should be visible, either on the wing or in the shadow.. So I wonder if this particular 109 might be "one off" so to speak. Perhaps a leftover from earlier times and used as hack etc.

I do agree that is not a G-6 as all my photos of Bulgarian G-6's show the DF loop.

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July 16th, 2012, 3:43 pm #9

I have not come across any E after the initial painting of the yellow nose.

Given that the RBAF was a defensive air force, I doubt the E was of much value against high flying bombers, and any modern escorts.



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July 16th, 2012, 5:06 pm #10

Here You have a picture of a Bulgarian Bf 109E with this markings:
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