Best German primer red paint brand

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Best German primer red paint brand

Joined: August 16th, 2005, 7:14 pm

June 12th, 2018, 12:06 am #1

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Joined: January 31st, 2010, 6:01 am

June 12th, 2018, 3:15 am #2

Acrylic, enamel or lacquer-based?
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Joined: August 16th, 2005, 7:14 pm

June 12th, 2018, 3:31 am #3

Acrylic
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Joined: January 31st, 2010, 6:01 am

June 12th, 2018, 3:52 am #4

I'm not the one to talk to on acrylics, but I'm certain someone here is. I haven't used many brands of acrylics, so I could only give a semi-educated guess. 
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Joined: November 17th, 2006, 1:18 pm

June 12th, 2018, 5:17 am #5

Google a Vallejo Model Color or Model Air, or MIG, color chart. Both brands are 'water' based. MC hand brushes quite well.

I have the Vallejo Panzer Aces big 60+ bottle set in ft of me and I can see three that look kinda close. Brown-ish red. Two bottles w/ 'Panzer Aces' on the label (spl to the boxed set?), 'red tail light German' #307 and 'shadows flesh' #343. Third is labeled 'Model Color', 'hull red' #70.985.

Putting a lil' drop on white paper, I like the #343, odd name notwithstanding. I'd brighten it up a bit, make it redder. Would req some experimenting to get a color I like, that looks right to my eyes.
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 2:38 am

June 12th, 2018, 11:21 am #6

One thing to remember, there was no Official color assigned to this paint.
Color was not a big concern, the functionality was.  So one liter of paint had to have so much of ingredient X, Y and Z ( and so on ) mixed into so much of medium. 
Just like with RLM02, color was a secondary thing, functionality being primary one.
So it varied. Also, during the early years of WW II and pre war production, painting instructions called for multiple coats of primer and that produced darker, more intense color. Later on, one coat was good enough so paint coat looked a lot thinner, translucent and much less intense.  But giving the fact that it was always a primer and pretty much never left without overcoat of normal RAL paint on outside of the vehicle, it always appeared to be dark red with the hint of the brown thrown in.
So personally i wouldn't worry about it so much. 
What i could recommend is the Mr.Surfacer from Gunze. They make one in Primer Red.  Great stuff. Comes in the spray can and i think in the glass jar but all i ever used was the spray can. Goes on little messy but give it few hours to dry and it produces great surface that takes pretty much every paint you can throw on it.
HTH,
Cezar. 
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Joined: May 20th, 2015, 11:12 am

June 12th, 2018, 11:33 am #7

Hi,

I have used Gunze H463 Red Brown which I'm happy with because I'm a 'close enough' kinda guy.

Tim
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Joined: August 12th, 2004, 3:14 pm

June 12th, 2018, 9:34 pm #8

German red oxide primer is RED. Like plain old Flat Red.  It isn't red brown, brown, russet. It's not like modern red brown auto primer.  So, to be accurate, you would use just Flat Red.  Unless you are modeling the interior of a King Tiger or other later war tank with red primer in the lower hull, red primer was not visible on the outside of tanks and you really would not see it. Even when paint wears off, paint adheres to primer so any wear would remove the paint and primer and not just paint revealing primer.  

Depending on the look you want, you can tone the Flat Red down. I've done that because I didn't want it so bright. But, I chose to do that for artistic reasons.

AK Real Colors has a German Red Primer paint in their range. it is similar in formula to Tamiya.  I'm sure Mig and AK have it.  Mission Models also does it. The model paints tend to be darker than photos indicate it to be.

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Joined: August 12th, 2004, 3:14 pm

June 12th, 2018, 9:36 pm #9

Cezar. wrote:  
What i could recommend is the Mr.Surfacer from Gunze. They make one in Primer Red.  Great stuff. Comes in the spray can and i think in the glass jar but all i ever used was the spray can. Goes on little messy but give it few hours to dry and it produces great surface that takes pretty much every paint you can throw on it.
HTH,
Cezar. 
Tamiya now has Fine Red Oxide Spray Primer to go with their White and Grey. Very good stuff, although I have not used the red color. I saw it just today.
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 2:38 am

June 12th, 2018, 11:16 pm #10

OK man, yours is .... better. 
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