B-29 over Europe in 1944, is it possible?

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B-29 over Europe in 1944, is it possible?

Joined: March 2nd, 2005, 3:27 pm

December 10th, 2011, 10:04 pm #1

Hi there,

today I met with some of my friends for our monthly meeting and during this we had a lively discussion. One of my old friends (age 80 years) talked about his time as Flak gunner/helper during WWII. He said that in 1944 he saw a B-29 flying over Austria at least he is pretty sure about this and I have to mention that te really knows the difference between a B-17, B-24 and a B-29 and also about ost of the other Bombers. I told him that I dont think so because at least at that time all B-29 went to the Pacific area.

Another friend of mine said that the Brits had one B-29 in 1944 which was used as Churchills travel aircraft (something I have never heard of, and which I really do not believe ) was there ever a B-29 converted as a travel aircraft? and could it be possible that a B-29 was flying over Europe in 1944?

And yes I know that there were B-29s over Europe some time after the war.

Your help would be appreciated.

TIA

Cheers

René

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Joined: March 2nd, 2005, 8:00 pm

December 10th, 2011, 10:16 pm #2

I'm really in doubt that Churchill was given one; I'm sure that never happened. cheers, LL

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December 10th, 2011, 10:22 pm #3

... of at least one early B-29 (in OD/neutral gray) visiting 8th AF bases in England. But over Austria or any enemy/occupied territory seems far-fetched.
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December 10th, 2011, 10:29 pm #4

Hi there,

today I met with some of my friends for our monthly meeting and during this we had a lively discussion. One of my old friends (age 80 years) talked about his time as Flak gunner/helper during WWII. He said that in 1944 he saw a B-29 flying over Austria at least he is pretty sure about this and I have to mention that te really knows the difference between a B-17, B-24 and a B-29 and also about ost of the other Bombers. I told him that I dont think so because at least at that time all B-29 went to the Pacific area.

Another friend of mine said that the Brits had one B-29 in 1944 which was used as Churchills travel aircraft (something I have never heard of, and which I really do not believe ) was there ever a B-29 converted as a travel aircraft? and could it be possible that a B-29 was flying over Europe in 1944?

And yes I know that there were B-29s over Europe some time after the war.

Your help would be appreciated.

TIA

Cheers

René

Keep on modeling
René
www.usns.biz
Somewhere around here I have some photos of an OD over grey B-29 in the UK in 1944. It carried the name 'Amarillo Solenoid' on the nose.
One story attached to the presence of the B-29 in the UK was to give Germany the impression that they were being based in the UK for ops over Europe.

I'll see if I can dig the photo out.

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Dave
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December 10th, 2011, 10:36 pm #5

Hi there,

today I met with some of my friends for our monthly meeting and during this we had a lively discussion. One of my old friends (age 80 years) talked about his time as Flak gunner/helper during WWII. He said that in 1944 he saw a B-29 flying over Austria at least he is pretty sure about this and I have to mention that te really knows the difference between a B-17, B-24 and a B-29 and also about ost of the other Bombers. I told him that I dont think so because at least at that time all B-29 went to the Pacific area.

Another friend of mine said that the Brits had one B-29 in 1944 which was used as Churchills travel aircraft (something I have never heard of, and which I really do not believe ) was there ever a B-29 converted as a travel aircraft? and could it be possible that a B-29 was flying over Europe in 1944?

And yes I know that there were B-29s over Europe some time after the war.

Your help would be appreciated.

TIA

Cheers

René

Keep on modeling
René
www.usns.biz
In 1944 not even FDR had a B-29 transport. He was still using various unpressurized converted bombers and Pan Am Clippers. The B-29(s) that toured the UK did not engage in combat operations, so if he saw one over Austria, it would have been after the war. Highly doubtful in either case.

The B-29 wasn't well suited to being a transport. SAC did have one "VB-29" Command Support Aircraft in the 1950s, but AFAIK that was the only one dedicated to such a use.
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December 10th, 2011, 11:56 pm #6

... of at least one early B-29 (in OD/neutral gray) visiting 8th AF bases in England. But over Austria or any enemy/occupied territory seems far-fetched.
maybe I got it wrong. cheers, LL

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December 10th, 2011, 11:57 pm #7

Somewhere around here I have some photos of an OD over grey B-29 in the UK in 1944. It carried the name 'Amarillo Solenoid' on the nose.
One story attached to the presence of the B-29 in the UK was to give Germany the impression that they were being based in the UK for ops over Europe.

I'll see if I can dig the photo out.

Cheers
Dave
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December 11th, 2011, 12:04 am #8

Hi there,

today I met with some of my friends for our monthly meeting and during this we had a lively discussion. One of my old friends (age 80 years) talked about his time as Flak gunner/helper during WWII. He said that in 1944 he saw a B-29 flying over Austria at least he is pretty sure about this and I have to mention that te really knows the difference between a B-17, B-24 and a B-29 and also about ost of the other Bombers. I told him that I dont think so because at least at that time all B-29 went to the Pacific area.

Another friend of mine said that the Brits had one B-29 in 1944 which was used as Churchills travel aircraft (something I have never heard of, and which I really do not believe ) was there ever a B-29 converted as a travel aircraft? and could it be possible that a B-29 was flying over Europe in 1944?

And yes I know that there were B-29s over Europe some time after the war.

Your help would be appreciated.

TIA

Cheers

René

Keep on modeling
René
www.usns.biz
There were still two Me.264 prototypes about on test until mid-1944, when they were destroyed. The Me.264 is a very similar size and configuration to the B-29.
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December 11th, 2011, 12:32 am #9

n/t
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December 11th, 2011, 1:05 am #10

I'm really in doubt that Churchill was given one; I'm sure that never happened. cheers, LL

So a friend says: "cheer up things could be worse; so I cheered up and sure as hell Things Got Worse!
Churchill used Avro York LV633 "Ascalon." n/t
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