1941 Carolina and Louisiana wargames markings question

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1941 Carolina and Louisiana wargames markings question

Joined: June 11th, 2011, 9:54 pm

March 30th, 2012, 11:42 pm #1

I have seen F4Fs, Piper Cubs, P-39s, O-47s, B-25s and P-43s painted with either the red or white cross markings. I have a Curtiss 0-52 Owl and a Stinson L-1 Vigilant on my bench at this time. Both are 1/72 by Pavla. I have the cross decals. Does anyone know if these aircraft participated in these wargames and were they so marked? Any assistance would be apprerciated. Adios, Larry.

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March 30th, 2012, 11:55 pm #2

Looks like a wargame scheme - can't quite interprete the markings though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4832499432/
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March 30th, 2012, 11:59 pm #3

I have seen F4Fs, Piper Cubs, P-39s, O-47s, B-25s and P-43s painted with either the red or white cross markings. I have a Curtiss 0-52 Owl and a Stinson L-1 Vigilant on my bench at this time. Both are 1/72 by Pavla. I have the cross decals. Does anyone know if these aircraft participated in these wargames and were they so marked? Any assistance would be apprerciated. Adios, Larry.

Field Artillery brings dignity to what otherwise might be merely a vulgar brawl.
Not positive about the Stinson.
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March 31st, 2012, 1:47 am #4

I have seen F4Fs, Piper Cubs, P-39s, O-47s, B-25s and P-43s painted with either the red or white cross markings. I have a Curtiss 0-52 Owl and a Stinson L-1 Vigilant on my bench at this time. Both are 1/72 by Pavla. I have the cross decals. Does anyone know if these aircraft participated in these wargames and were they so marked? Any assistance would be apprerciated. Adios, Larry.

Field Artillery brings dignity to what otherwise might be merely a vulgar brawl.
painted on the lower wing on USS Hornet
...can you find it?

Cheers,
David Aiken
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March 31st, 2012, 3:38 am #5

Looks like a wargame scheme - can't quite interprete the markings though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4832499432/
All of the serving types and a couple of test aircraft were used in the 1940 and 41 wargames. I have good photos of the O-46, O-47, O-49, O-52 and O-59, all wearing game markings. Mark Aldrich
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March 31st, 2012, 4:09 am #6

I have seen F4Fs, Piper Cubs, P-39s, O-47s, B-25s and P-43s painted with either the red or white cross markings. I have a Curtiss 0-52 Owl and a Stinson L-1 Vigilant on my bench at this time. Both are 1/72 by Pavla. I have the cross decals. Does anyone know if these aircraft participated in these wargames and were they so marked? Any assistance would be apprerciated. Adios, Larry.

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I think I will place the crosses on both aircraft in the same manner as the P-39 and the O-47 which I can find photos for in my library. The Owl will be White Forces and the Vigilant will be Red Forces. Thanks again to all. Adios, Larry.

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March 31st, 2012, 11:15 am #7

I have seen F4Fs, Piper Cubs, P-39s, O-47s, B-25s and P-43s painted with either the red or white cross markings. I have a Curtiss 0-52 Owl and a Stinson L-1 Vigilant on my bench at this time. Both are 1/72 by Pavla. I have the cross decals. Does anyone know if these aircraft participated in these wargames and were they so marked? Any assistance would be apprerciated. Adios, Larry.

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I'm certain I've seen the L-1 with crosses, probably in one of Ethell's (n/t)
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March 31st, 2012, 2:00 pm #8

painted on the lower wing on USS Hornet
...can you find it?

Cheers,
David Aiken
but didn't realize the 17th also supplied aircraft to Red Force for the Carolina Games. Can you tell me which aircraft it was?

Lynn

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March 31st, 2012, 2:15 pm #9

OR is it a white cross overpainted? FAR RIGHT WING TIP


Ryan Short sent the following:
Here are a few actual photos...

http://doolittleraid.com/Research02.htm

You can see traces of the markings in several pictures of the Doolittle birds...

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9 ... directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/E ... directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/u ... directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0 ... directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X ... directlink

It was painted out on Doolittles bird:https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/R ... directlink

Ryan

Although now that I think about it, I wonder if that was a green background... but in this photo, the color around the cross is very similar to the color in the dot of the national insignia, while in this picture it would appear to be different.:


Ryan
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March 31st, 2012, 3:06 pm #10

I'm certain I've seen the L-1 with crosses, probably in one of Ethell's (n/t)
The O-49/L-1 could be configured as an ambulance aircraft, and as such would carry red crosses on the fuselage.
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