Kickstart Kickback

Kickstart Kickback

anthonyhernandez99
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February 18th, 2017, 8:12 pm #1

The bike is either a late '69 or a '70. I have the starter hooked up but I rarely use it. On colder days I have to kick the shit out of it, but that's neither here nor there.

My issue is WHEN I kick it, I get kickback from the kicker arm. At the same time I can also hear the starter trying to do it's thing and I assume that's what's causing the kickback. It's not every kick, but it does happen pretty frequently.
 
Any ideas? I'm almost to the point where I'd rather just disconnect the starter altogether.
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February 18th, 2017, 9:12 pm #2

That sounds like you've got a short somewhere that's firing your starter when you jostle it with the kick.

Regarding your hard starting: Do you give it any priming kicks first?
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February 18th, 2017, 10:04 pm #3

(Do you give it any priming kicks first? ) Kick one or two times it with the choke on and key off then tune the key on then kick..
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February 18th, 2017, 11:38 pm #4

Kickback can also be an ignition timing issue.
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February 19th, 2017, 9:39 pm #5

I think it could be a short, or timing. Any ideas on the best place to start?

And yes, I do give it priming kicks.
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February 19th, 2017, 11:38 pm #6

I'm no expert. I think if it was me, aside from asking here, the first thing I'd do would be to disconnect the wire to the starter at the handlebar switch/button/key - wherever you actuate to start it electrically, and see if it still does it. If it does, you definitely have to chase down a short. If it doesn't, your problem would likely be in the switch.
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February 20th, 2017, 5:17 am #7

I would disconnect the Positive cable and run a hot wire from the POS of the battery to the ING and kick start it and see if it still does it.
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March 3rd, 2017, 4:43 pm #8

Haven't had much time to tear into it lately, but so far my solution for the time being has been to keep my kill switch off and give it about a 3/4 kick and hold it there. Then I'll flip the switch and finish the kick. After it's warm that 1/4 kick is all it takes to start it.

Something else weird that I noticed was that when I use the starter button, I hear a whirring sound like the starter is spinning, but it doesn't seem like it's actually engaging with anything. It absolutely will not start using the starter button. I think this paired with the kickback when kicking it over is the weirdest thing.

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December 6th, 2017, 3:47 am #9

I would start with the basics and adjust the valves and cam chain then proceed to a full tune up.
points set at 12-13 thousandths,use a dwell meter to get them both as close as possible.
This should help your starting problems by giving you the best possible spark at the right time.
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