Update on my 6 y/o

Update on my 6 y/o

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May 17th, 2012, 2:07 am #1

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
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May 17th, 2012, 2:22 am #2

I understand the shock and denial, b/c that's how I reacted when our ped suggested evaluating ds for PDD.

TG the counselor came to your house! I didn't know they would do that.

The first time my ds had albuterol via nebulizer, he was 3 or 4yo and he was in the children's ER. He said, "I feel happy!" and I was worried, b/c of family issues. TG he no longer likes how the albuterol feels. But I will certainly watch in case he changes his mind again.

I hope your ds will be happier soon. I know it is very scary.




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May 17th, 2012, 4:28 am #3

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
Oh, Gail, too much on your plate. Surreal for sure. I am so glad you were so on the ball with this last incident. You are going to get him the help he needs. You are an amazing mom, really. I know you may not always feel it or believe it, but you are.





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May 17th, 2012, 4:41 am #4

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
when I read this. My thoughts are with you - you need all the strength you have. I'm so shocked to read this. You are so perceptive and should be proud of yourself to have caught this before any damage could be done to himself or people around him. I hope you will get your DH on board when it comes to getting help for DS. I'm sending you big big hugs!

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May 17th, 2012, 5:13 am #5

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
GailCT,

Oh, I'm sorry. Hugs and good wishes as you navigate this.

Best wishes,
Alex
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May 17th, 2012, 5:19 am #6

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
I dont know what to say, other than youre doing all you can to help your son. I pray that you can get him through the challenges he is having, and this will some day be a distant memory.

Take care,

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May 17th, 2012, 12:43 pm #7

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
so I would rather take the support that you can get to help your son. I would do, just as you are doing.

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May 17th, 2012, 1:31 pm #8

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
...this is surreal even to read; I can't imagine living it, especially given everything you have already endured this year. I am so sorry.

This is beyond my experience, so I don't have any words of wisdom to offer--except to encourage the obvious, which is to continue to seek therapy/help for DS in whatever form is recommended--but like the others, I want to say how impressed I am that you zeroed right in on DS's behavior. Your perceptiveness really caught this early!!! I know this is just the beginning and you have a lot of hard work ahead, but you caught this -- that's huge. Brava, mamma.

I'm not sure why your DH is so resistant to your efforts to help your sons. Is he in denial about these things? Is he not able to believe that his children might have problems or issues? Surely he must realize that all children have some problems--how they manifest is out of our control, but how we address them and help them through it is in our control. Putting his head in the sand is only going to make matters far worse. I think it might almost be harder to deal with a disbelieving and uncooperative DH.

As an aside, I've been made to doubt myself several times by DH, but on a much smaller scale, and every time I have kicked myself for having allowed that doubt to creep in, and every time my instincts--which I ignored--were proven right:

1. "You're a sleep Nazi," --and yes, DD was exhausted and out of sorts the next day when I had been made to feel guilty about insisting on a reasonable bed time (numerous instances)

2. "you're too fixated on a schedule/discipline/etc." -- again, toddler/preK DD would not function nearly as well or be as happy when perimeters were erased (several instances)

3. "it's just one ice cream/sweet/etc." --DD is pudgy around the middle and starting to talk about diets (she's 9)--DH finally realized that sweets/treats need to be rationed carefully and infrequently (to be fair, this isn't all DH -- sugar is EVERYWHERE -- but he has joined me finally in curtailing what's on offer here, because we cannot control what's on offer at friends' homes, school, Sunday school, etc.)

4. "it's not that cold--she doesn't need a coat--you worry too much -- just because you're cold doesn't mean she will be--OR--that's the wrong coat--it won't do any good"---- (yes, it was indeed too cold, and the coat I suggested would have been great and helped to prevent DD's shivering)

and on and on. Minor stuff in the scheme of things, but just to show that we shouldn't allow others to doubt our mommy instincts. Every time I've done it, I've been sorry, and I'm trying to stop second-guessing myself here, because some day the stakes are going to be much higher--as you already know--and I don't want to make a mistake there.

Thank goodness you listened to your instincts and acted, and you're in contact with the proper professionals. Keeping all of you in my prayers and hoping to read a positive update from you when you have a chance (and btw, some of my cousins have dependency issues [a brother and sister] -- they were dx'd in HS. They are both have mental health issues as well, which is controlled by meds. Their father is in AA, and my cousin's son had issues as well. Just to say...it was genetic, it was strong, and the family is healthy and functioning thanks to therapy and meds. I wonder if my cousins' paths would have been easier had their issues been realized and addressed earlier).

Sorry this is so long and rambling...I do hope it makes sense and it's somewhat helpful.

(((Hugs))),
Kat.
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May 17th, 2012, 2:26 pm #9

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
I am so sorry you are dealing with this! I don't feel like I have anything to offer besides hugs at this point. It does seem surreal, but know that you are doing the right thing to trust your instincts.

Sending many hugs your way. I may post again after I collect my thoughts and can think of something to say.

xoxoxo
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May 17th, 2012, 6:10 pm #10

another fun filled week here. So I called the social worker at the school and she met with DS to discuss everything. She called me with concern later in the day. She asked him if he wanted to kill himself and he said he has wished it when he gets in trouble and is sent to his room. She asked him about wanting to hurt anyone else and he said he thought about killing mom and dad...I fell off my chair with this. He also shared untrue stories with her, what an imagination he has. She suggested that I call the emergency psychiatric unit to come assess him asap. Of course DH gave me a hard time, he makes me doubt myself all the time, I can't stand it. So I called the therapist that diagnosed Noah for her advice and she said there are definite concerns there and to call. So I hang up with her and had to drop my DD off at a show, DS was misbehaving badly so I sent him to his room to get his PJs on and get ready for bed. It was a few minutes and I then thought I need to go up and lock my bedroom door, so I ran up there and heard pills shaking in DS's room. After I sent him to his room he immediately went into my room into my drawer and took a bottle of fluoride tablets that I hide so he doesn't eat them all. This completely scared me and I called the emergency number and a counselor was out here within a half hour. He does feel he is drug seeking, that he states he had a good feeling a while ago from a medication and the counselor thinks he is subconsciously trying to get that feeling. He doesn't feel he is suicidal or feels that my husband and I are in any danger. But he will start seeing a child therapist. I can't believe this is happening, my life is so surreal sometimes. And I have to say KM when I read your response, I was like no way, how can that be, and you were right....so scary.
But you are taking the right steps--hopefully it is not as serious as it sounds, I do think the stuff with your older ds could be involved.

Family dynamics are a big player--my little brother stopped going to school in 6th grade and it was because he wanted my mom to stop worrying about a potential illness she had (ms which my parents had not even told us about). kids are very intuitive. We thought this was completely bizzarre but the psychologists all agreed. We had to go to family counseling that we all hated!! But it worked. So he could be reacting to your older ds or to your stress from the situation.

hang in there this stuff is so tough.

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