Nuther VA story--the short version from my friend's wife in NH

Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

April 27th, 2018, 11:08 pm #1

He's got appointments this week at the VA for documentation of his refiled claims for compensation of Agent Orange exposure,( diabetes, nephropathy and eye problems), loss of hearing, internal and external scar tissue, damage to right hand and arm and PTSD.  The guy in claims thought he has a good chance this time.  He has been refused 3 times.

Anyone here think he's got a god chance this time? Or maybe he'll get refusal number four?

Thank-you-for-your-service.
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Joined: May 4th, 2010, 1:03 pm

April 30th, 2018, 1:30 pm #2

I'm on my forth filing now for a radiation exposure claim.  Local County Veteran Service Officer can't believe they keep turning it down.  Third submission included a comprehensive letter from a Senior VA Hematologist in support of my claim plus rock solid evidence of location and level of exposure.  About two weeks ago I filed a formal letter of disagreement.  That means that the file goes to a completely independent reviewer that has complete decision making authority.  If that fails I can request an in-person hearing.  The only reason I can think of for previous denials is that reviewers/raters are running the claim against a standard checklist as it appears they haven't actually read the file.  Recommend you advise claimant to file a notice of disagreement if current claim is denied.  At least it will get an independent review!
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

April 30th, 2018, 8:00 pm #3

It's standard VA....NO! Haven't read it? Not a surprise if that's true--why would they... NO!

I just got a thing in the mail the local VA shop is relocating, better location, better service, "Please come and check us out. NFWay. Sorry. 4 times, huh? What you're supposed to do, is die. Get it. 300,000 did the right thing, another 600,000 are taking their sweet ass time--not good.

Thanks man! You dun pissed me off with this great VA news. Hahaha. This is an org that seriously needs to be put down. You deserve better--like real insurance. And you can thank the Left for killing Trumps new guy--good enough for 3 presidents but all of a sudden he's a pervert. These guys.
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May 3rd, 2018, 1:05 pm #4

The VA action deny, delay, hope they die and go away. 
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

May 3rd, 2018, 1:42 pm #5

Yes I think you right. Oh and the number 300K died waiting and 600K in the wings is a debatable number because many of them--it has been argued--are repeat names and names of long deceased Vets. If that's true then you might--maybe--get a handle on how good their records are/aren't. None of this makes sense and surprisingly some vet orgs do not want the VA to change. The more I look into it, the more muddle and nonsense I find.
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Joined: May 4th, 2010, 1:03 pm

June 29th, 2018, 2:33 pm #6

I opted-in to the VA RAMP program on 22 May 2018, which is supposed to render a decision within 125 days.  My Veteran Service Officer said many decisions are coming through within 37 days.  My opt-in to RAMP was was about 67 days ago and haven't heard anything, not even verification of receipt.  I did manage to get a call through last week and verified that VA has the opt-in paperwork.  Since my claim is that VA made an outright mistake and violated their own regulations and Federal Law, I imagine it got referred back to the people that denied it twice already?  Can't imagine another disapproval,  I think I might be on the lie until they die list!    FLCoyote
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

June 29th, 2018, 2:46 pm #7

Good Luck with your claim. I don't know how any of it works since 2000. I stopped dealing with them...well, I did give them a shot with a local office opening and asking me to participate. It was business as usual and I have not dealt with the VA since. I can't accurately recall the year that was--maybe 2007,8-ish.

I did hear Trump say that if you need treatment you can now go to the doctor and the VA--or gov't--will simply pay the bill. That was my suggestion, it has been attempted by Vet groups for decades. I don't know how THAT works. I looked at it pre-Trump and you could only go to an outside Doc if you lived a certain number of miles form a VA facility. As for claims--I do not think anything has changed??? Maybe? 

My pals who have settled claims have done remarkably well. One of them sounds close to your issue.

As I recall it, he had been diagnosed for something "combat related" by an outside doctor--no problem. The VA was claiming it was not combat related--yet they paid for the other doc which implied the VA accepted the combat related nature of the injury. That went through a whole bunch of administrative attempts to deny it, but it was too late. My buddy got somewhere on the order of 100K bucks awarded to him, back pay/claims whatever. I got confused by all the details and didn't care as long as he finally got the money--MY POINT I guess--is that it took him 20-30 years to get what he finally got--as I recall it. So lessee 100/20-30 years plus all the aggravation?  I don't need it myself. But that's me. I probably would be reeeely rich of I went after all the $$$$s I ignore just to avoid the aggravation of getting it. But no need to get into a philosophical Theseus on THAT! As I said, and I really mean it--good luck with your claim.
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Joined: July 12th, 2018, 10:04 pm

July 12th, 2018, 10:20 pm #8

Hello Rob, I don’t know if you remember me. My name is Robert Kemp and I’m a Navy veteran and we used to talk about Hairy cell leukemia; in fact we met one time at Dr. Savan’s office.  I had a claim pending with the VA for almost 9 years. I finally got a 20% rating for neuropathy in the foot and ankle on both legs as a result of the chemo therapy for HCL.The award was granted based on having leukemia and getting the treatment and this is a secondary effect. However, they did acknowledge finally that Bluewater vets were in the Vietnam, and presumed to be exposed to agent orange, even though they were not boots on the ground.
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

July 13th, 2018, 1:17 am #9

I recall you, yes. Gee that was years ago. I'm glad you got something from the VA. 9 years? That's record time isn't it? How about HCL itself? Don't you rate something for that--there is no cure? Since they blame AO then you can claim HCL was caused by that too. I mean shouldn't you get compensated for HCL, period, and neuropathy, period? It shouldn't be a bundle...should it? They are two different things. But at least you got something and you're still alive to collect it.

That said, how is it that chemo caused the neuropathy? I'm sure you've gone over and over the whole thing with the VA. But I'm curious about your case.
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Joined: July 12th, 2018, 10:04 pm

July 13th, 2018, 1:32 am #10

The HCL did get a rating of “0” per cent, but cannot rise to a 10 per cent because HMG would have to drop to 10.  The neuropathy relates to nerve damage in my legs due to the chemotherapy treatment for the HCl, since I’m not diabetic.If I relapse, I could file a request for a compensation review. The 20 per cent is permanent.
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

July 13th, 2018, 10:59 am #11

Did you get an explanation of why HCL was zero? I'm not clear on HMG but it seems to get one you don't get the other? Don't want to be cynical but a compensation review will most like result in "NO." But if you hang in there another XXX years maybe? I honestly think they have a formula for Life Expectancy and Benefit Approval plus Years Lwft. Something like (LE-YL=A + %).
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Joined: May 4th, 2010, 1:03 pm

July 13th, 2018, 1:46 pm #12

After chemo you get 100% for six months and 10 to 30% if other treatment is continued.  I have a claim in and will probably get a 0% rating due to missing the time frame for a previous appeal.  Benefit of that is wife will be eligible for a pension if HCL contributes to my death and if I relapse (appears to be happening), I'll get 100% for six months and 10 to 30% if treatment is continued.  I've been seeing a VA Hematologist every six months since 2009/chemo, but don't know if that is considered continued treatment.  My claim was denied twice stating that I didn't file in time and didn't get treatment while on active duty.  I found the law (CFR) that states there is no time limit on filing for leukemia.  A Doctor who is a former VA rating official advised me that VA had screwed up and would have to approve my claim.  I sent VA a copy of the law in March and haven't heard from them since.  We'll See!   FLCoyote
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Joined: July 12th, 2018, 10:04 pm

July 13th, 2018, 2:01 pm #13

 It’s a goofy case because they initially granted me a 10% for HCL  until they dropped it to 0% because they said fatigability with a hemoglobin over 10 does not warrant any higher than 0%.  Yet they granted me a 20% for the neuropathy. The VA- in its infinite wisdom.
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Joined: March 30th, 2003, 5:17 pm

July 13th, 2018, 5:13 pm #14

Oh, this stuff is pure gold. Thank you for posting it. I should start a site for VA issues, but it'd probably turn into an angry place and no more than a listing of VA BS, double talk. I not only could go there for AO (prescriptively causing HCL) they also allow anyone stationed at Camp Lejeune, NC for two months between the 50's or 60s up to the 80s compensation for drinking poison water. I meet the requirement. I did Infantry Training there in 1966--Ha! I'll skip it, thanks but no thanks. For all I know that's what caused HCL or not, maybe, could be--but I'd expect to get the "NO" vote and don't' care for the angst of it all. Let me be sure to add, "Thank you for your service."
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Joined: July 12th, 2018, 10:04 pm

July 14th, 2018, 9:33 pm #15

My case is further complicated because I have hemachromatosis. This requires a phlebotomy every three months and leaves me anemic something I would like to not have since I’m already slightly anemic with the HCL residuals.
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