Thewlis Griffith or Tower Nipper/Handcuff

Thewlis Griffith or Tower Nipper/Handcuff

Mark Lyons
Mark Lyons

November 9th, 2017, 6:19 pm #1



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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November 9th, 2017, 7:36 pm #2

Great addition to the collection, Mark! I would love to see these up close. I was in on the auction for a bit, but it got a little too rich for my blood. You did grab these at a great price though! Congrats, my friend. Very cool piece!
-Richard Knip-
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Paul Davies
Paul Davies

November 10th, 2017, 1:34 am #3



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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I've seen no evidence to suggest they were made by T&G and especially not Tower. Since one pair is stamped Hiatt, it is based on an English design and found in England, I'd assume English. But, since I have an American designed nipper stamped Hiatt, it is hard to be 100% positive. Paul
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Mark
Mark

November 10th, 2017, 3:16 am #4



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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Thanks Paul
I am not aware of one of these marked “Hiatt “

Might you be the fortunate one?

Mark
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Paul Davies
Paul Davies

November 10th, 2017, 7:28 am #5



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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The one from the gallery you posted is marked Hiatt - so not a Tower. Regards
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Paul supporter
Paul supporter

November 10th, 2017, 9:30 am #6



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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November 10th, 2017, 4:44 pm #7



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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Sorry Mark. My listing had Hiatt correct in the title, but somehow Tower made it into the text. I have correct the error now.

There is an example of one of these made by Thewlis Griffith, but it is not clear who made them. Did Thewlis Griffith make one for Hiatt or did Hiatt make one for Thewlis Griffith.

I have a conventional Thewlis Griffith nipper. I don't know who made it.

My locking nipper is very difficult to use. The screw as to be turned in many turns for it to open and it is very difficult to close the thing. I think it would have been nearly impossible to use it in the field. I am not surprised that they wer never widely used.

Joe
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Mark Lyons
Mark Lyons

November 10th, 2017, 7:56 pm #8



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
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Paul,

Thanks for pointing out the "Hiatt" marking on this unusual item.
I simply did not zoom in on it enough.

Joe,

I was questioning the "Tower" connection with this item but had to ask if indeed an error reared its ugly head in your gallery.
Do you have a picture of one of these with "Thewlis Griffith" markings?
I would like to see this.


Is it known if Thewlis Griffith was an actual manufacturer or did they merely private label their wares?

Mark
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November 11th, 2017, 12:19 am #9



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
O--O
Mark
Sorry, I do not have a picture. I am just working off memory. I think I am remembering a cuff sold on eBay many years ago.
It was the first time I ever saw a nipper of this style.

I think Thewlis & Griffith may have been a real manufacturer, but I have no idea what they actually made.
There is a copy of an advertisement for a conventional Thewlis & Griffith nipper in the Alex Nichols book.

Joe
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November 11th, 2017, 12:32 am #10



Hi all,
I am very pleased to have won the above item.

The seller believes it was used by Irish Constabulary around 1890.
It was believed to be made by Thewlis Griffith.

The below pic is in the Gallery at this site but it is listed as a Tower



Does anyone have any further information about these?
As far as I know, this might be the 4th one that I have seen picture of.

Incidentally, one sold on eBay in 2013 for almost 3 times what the going rate was on mine. Feeling lucky!
The Pratt Combo cuff is the closest thing I have seen to these as it could be used as a nipper or a cuff.
I don't believe I know of any other combo cuffs ever made.

I do not have them yet but I find it interesting that they can be snapped shut but enough force to release them is not exactly possible so the key is necessary to separate the 2 halves.

Mark
O--O
Found this. Dont know if it helps or not?https://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-147 ... aints.html

-Richard Knip-
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