Swing-Through Legiron History

Joseph Fox
Joseph Fox

October 11th, 2013, 12:45 am #11

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
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Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

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S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

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Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

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For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

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Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
I always thought that a good way to really punish a male convict - would be to parade him around in PINK handcuffs & legirons while in the presence of his fellow cons.

Sort of a psychological punishment.
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October 11th, 2013, 1:05 am #12

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

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Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
Sheriff Joe Arpaio A.K.A. "The Toughest Sheriff in America" concurs:

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October 11th, 2013, 1:24 am #13

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
Great info, thanks for the helpful legiron timelines!
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Tremex
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October 11th, 2013, 7:25 pm #14

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

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Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
And P-503 were sold by DHW before. Bought tens years ago, when international shipping was -directly- possible. "Good old times " ?

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Tremex
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October 11th, 2013, 7:26 pm #15

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

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Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
And as is ?

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October 13th, 2013, 9:20 am #16

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

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Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
It would be interesting to see ASP and Bonowi have a go at this.
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Tremex
Tremex

October 13th, 2013, 7:02 pm #17

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




--Joe Fox
And the black L-100 too. For ASP, sorry, no cuffs to show.



P.S. : pictures taken on neutral grey, if you want to know the precise color.
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Joseph Fox
Joseph Fox

October 13th, 2013, 7:22 pm #18

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
Thanks for all of the photos.

Getting back to the time-lime of swing-through Legirons...If you know of any models that pre-date the 1930's H&R Super Legirons, please post here.

...or if you have any ads for Peerless Legirons that say "New" or "Introducing", etc.


(as I mentioned above, its inconclusive if the 1920's Bockin "swing-beside" legirons were ever actually made).
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October 14th, 2013, 12:56 pm #19

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

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--Joe Fox
Joe,

Prior to the website redesign, Peerless hosted a more comprehensive history page. The following is now hosted by J & L Self Defense Products, Miles Tactical and other resellers of Peerless products:

The original Peerless history page is now found here.

A more comprehensive history can be found on the Corrections One website.

Regards,
Jason

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Tremex
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October 14th, 2013, 6:13 pm #20

On the "Help With Legirons" thread, Paul Reardon posed this inquiry:

"it was a while before the swing through Wesson/Pomeroy invention was applied to legirons. Maybe our S&W or Peerless experts on board could tell us when those companies first produced legirons."



I thought I'd create a separate thread for this topic. ---Joe Fox
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Paul:


PEERLESS:

I estimate that their legirons first appeared in the late 1960's...early 1970's.

I've seen a 1972 police supply catalog ad that lists Peerless Legirons...but the advertisement doesn't say the words "New" or "Introducing".

I have a Peerless Legiron with serial #507, so I'm interested in knowing the exact year of it's introduction. Anyone here have an early sales flyer for Peerless Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

S&W:

They finally introduced Legirons in 1990, with their current model #1900.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Foreign "Peerless-clone" legirons:

The Japanese "Takeda" Legirons are from the 1960's.

Were today's cheaper Japanese/Taiwan swing-through legirons around in the 1960's too?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the earliest swing-through Legirons, of course these come to mind:

H&R Super Legirons (1930's); Strauss (1930's); Harvard (1940's); American Munitions-Chicago (1950's); American Handcuff Co. (1960's).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any other early swing-through legirons? ------ Do any pre-date the H&R Super Legirons?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




--Joe Fox
Finally I have found one more ! If we can consider the "Fury" cuffs as real cuffs ... Otherwise, I don't possess old cuffs (except Bean Tower and Peerless v2), so I would be unable to respond to this quest for older black irons.

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