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January 4th, 2001, 3:04 am #1

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January 6th, 2001, 11:44 am #3

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Since hearing (one of them anyway) of the meaning
I believe I could except it quite well. Over the
recent years I have heard the meaning to be derived
from a "Turkish" battle cry, meaning "kill the enemy".
Good warrior cry in my estimation. Can't vouch for
the authenticity of this meaning, but sure sounds
good when I think about it.




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January 6th, 2001, 1:37 pm #4

we have no reason to believe that that story has any basis in fact! Good story, though.

Problem is--if that story gets around enough, some "professional" writer will eventually pick it up and stick it in his/her new book, and we all know the effect once something is in writing!

Hell, I've see stories, obviously nor true, but if believed would even make Klinton look good! Or her husband even.



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January 7th, 2001, 9:11 pm #5

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I have been wondering about OOrah. I left the Corps in '52 and had never heard of it until the last couple years. No idea where it originated but presumed it came in with the "New Corps" during the Viet Nam experience. In my day it was "Gung Ho!", which at least is 'interpetable'.
Question, if I may... I'm trying to recapture my memory of the pogey rope, both for 1-5 and for SeaGoing units. Any fresh ideas?
Semper Fi! Sgt Syd
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January 10th, 2001, 10:53 pm #6

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Gunny, somehow I suspect you and I would not agree on a whole hell of a lot. Restore the Republic? What is that crap about? However, I am with you on this "Ooh Rah" guff. The first time I heard it was in the mid eighties while my son was in the Air Wing. Yeah, I know--but kids, what're you gonna do?

Ooh Rah, sounds childish, like some sophomore booster club cheer or prep school rallying cry.

Gung Ho or Semper Fi works for me.

And, I do agree that Marine ranks are the proper address rather than using the pay grade. But, you know that came about, if my memory is correct, in the late fifties when the Marine ranks and pay grades were realigned. People were confused about the new Lance Corporal rank (E-3) which replaced the (E-3) Corporal which became (E-4), and the (E-4) Sergeant who became a Sergeant (E-5). To further build on the confusion, there was a window of time in which there were no insignia (with crossed rifles, etc.) for the new ranks. There were L/Cpls wearing regular corporal two stripes, and newly made corporals wearing sergeant three stripes while real corporals and sergeants were also wearing the same insignia. It was a cluster f**k. Particularly since L/Cpls were not entitled to the NCO Club, but they were wearing the rank. For the sake of clarity, many commands starting using the pay grade as an identifier, as in, "He's a Sergeant E-5." And thus, useage became corrupted to designating personnel by pay grade rather than rank. Or so I think.

But, back to this Restore the Republic stuff, what's that about? Better we should restore swagger sticks, Sam Browne belts, and leather instead of corfam shoes.

Semper Fi? Doesn't that mean, I've got mine, where's yours?

Shane Fox: Lima 3/5, 1st & 3rd Mar Div, FMF, and doesn't FMF really mean Fighting Motherf***er instead of Fleet Marine Force. And yeah, I was proud of my pogey rope--hangs in my office to this day, actually.

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January 22nd, 2001, 12:43 am #7

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OK. I'm not uncool for not recognizing Ooorah when I was at PI for my son's graduation in '86.
In '56 we'd never heard anything like that.
Things evolve, though.
We were big on Gung Ho.
Old pre-WWII salts probably got a laugh from that.
Using paygrades to address themselves, you had to be there.
They announced one day that us corporals were now acting corporals (acting sgts., etc.).
Adding to the confusion was the fact that grunt outfits mostly wore dungarees (utilities for the new guys) and had metal chevrons.
The new chevrons (the ones they use today) were still in the making somewhere, so a brand new Corporal E-4 wore metal sergeants stripes. He couldn't wear corporal stripes because everyone would think he was an E-3 (Lance Corporal or Corporal E-3).
That caused a stir among the troops that got the officers thinking (imagine officers thinking) and they changed the acting to corporal e-3 and corporal e-4, etc.
We got tired of the bull**** and just said "I'm an E-3, 4, whatever."
It was a crock. When I made corporal--the first time--I believe I had more status than when I went through the Acting, E-3/E-4 crap.
I was a CORPORAL and nobody screwed with me.
With the new ranks, they got even.

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January 24th, 2001, 3:55 am #8

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I heard many platoons at MCRD San Diego shouting this during my fun days in Plt.3072 (6/75-9/75). One thing though, not only did it sound like a bunch of candyasses in a glee club but our Platoon Commander SSgt Thymes would have PT'd the crap out of us if he heard it.

Also I spent the rest of my tour running comm with MWCS-28 and while we heard it a few times from boots just coming onboard they quickly saw it carried no weight.

We basically considered "oohrah" to be a term used by brown nosers.
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January 29th, 2001, 8:34 pm #9

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Lee N. Mead has replied (with title "OohRah???"):

When did OohRah come into fashion? I still say
Gung Ho. I was a gravel cruncher,or ground pounder,
sometimes a jungle bunny, never was a"Grunt!"
Except when I had dysentary. You haven't lived until
you pooped in your sleeping bag- but that's
another story, and I know how Marines hate Sea
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January 29th, 2001, 8:37 pm #10

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Karoline:
Thanx...
Yeah, I've heard this one a few times too.
Like I told NOMAD yesterday regarding this same
"story"--if this one (story) sticks around a few
more years, some "professional" writer will stick
it in his/her next book, and it will then become
gospel thereafter, like the phony Tun Tavern
story, Blood Stripes, etc.

Ah me...and to think Ooh-Rah went right by this
old boot all those years w/o me even suspecting
it existed!
Best


Dick



--- karoline <kmiller@ecenet.com> wrote:
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> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> To: MarineMomsOnline@egroups.com
> From: "Cathy Nevitt" <mongo1mom@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:37:36 -0000
> Subject: (MMO) Where "Oohrah" came from...
>
> Hello everyone!
> Last week, in a post, I asked if anyone knew
> where we get the
> "Oohrah" that many of us have added to our
> vocabularies in recent
> months and years. I received a few responses,
> mostly from other MMOs
> wanting to know, but one from Lyn (Trimmelone)
> who actually found some
> historical info on the subject. Thanks, Lyn,
> and thanks to her son
> for his input. For your information, here's
> what she said:
>
> "I'm sure you'll get PLENTY of responses about
> "ooh-rah!" but here's
> mine.
> "Apparently the Marines picked it up back on
> "the shores of Tripoli."
> Here's my son's response when I asked him:
> 'It's actually a
> derivative (sp?) of the Turkish word for kill,
> adopted by the Marines
> who fought at the side of Prince Hamet's 400
> men in the Barbary
> Pirate's War as a war cry. Prince Hamet was the
> rightful Pasha of
> Tripoli, who, after we won, awarded Lt. Presley
> O'Bannon with the
> Mameluke Sword, which is now given to all
> Marine officers upon their
> commission, etc, etc,'
> "I have not been able to confirm the Turkish
> word for "kill" so I
> can't tell you if this is merely a legend of
> the Corps, or if there
> is a legitimate derivation. (I'm an editor and
> fact-checker, so this
> is the kind of thing I like to know.)"
> Lyn Central Coast California
> Proud mom of LCpl George Mellone
>
> So, there you have it...file it away for the
> next new group of MMOs!
> God bless,
> Cathy
> Proud MMO of PFC Andy Nevitt
>
>
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