Another look at the flash...

Another look at the flash...

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April 24th, 2009, 6:36 pm #1

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April 25th, 2009, 12:58 am #2

Does anyone now think it is not a flash?...
Last edited by tiny on April 25th, 2009, 12:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Grumpy
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April 25th, 2009, 1:22 am #3

BIONIC LIGHTNING BUG...... imagine the torture of being locked in a room with bionic bird calls being played and continual bright flashes from bionic lightning bugs...
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Crispy Critter
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April 25th, 2009, 2:10 am #4

Does anyone now think it is not a flash?...
And I trust you when you believe you have something.

Unfortunately, between Internet compression and my laptop screen, and I am probably blind as well..LOL - some things I for one have to reserve judgment on.

Does not mean I don't think you are probably correct. But, one has to be honest with himself and others.
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

April 25th, 2009, 1:22 pm #5

from the folks who thought the flash was nothing more then emulsion or something on the film other then a flash...
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Ruby Red
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April 25th, 2009, 4:31 pm #6

behind the strange flash? The size allowed me to see the shadowy image of a person behind the strange flash. Or am I also seeing what I want to see in the animation?
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J
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April 25th, 2009, 6:23 pm #7

from the folks who thought the flash was nothing more then emulsion or something on the film other then a flash...
I'd like to see something from Kodak on what they found. The light to me is too low to the ground to be a gun. It could be the reflection off something, assuming it is on the original film. Depends on if they analyzed the master or a copy. If they studied a copy and the fleck was on the master then yes, it would appear on the film transfered from the master to the copy.

I still think this is not a gun shot and probably has some simple explanation. Heck, it could be a tin can next to a tree that caught the sunlight. Dunno, I wasn't there.

But I stand by the interlacing explanation as I can see the horizontal lines in the image. The flaring is likely a product of this. I'll wait to read the procedure Kodak did to determine it is on the film and what reference they used.

But for me frankly, even if the light is on the film it still has many explanations and interpretations. I can only base a determination on what is presented. That point of light is being affected by interlacing, as most of the light sources on it are. That is a fact.

The camera is shifting here causing the angle to reveal what appears to be a stump or other natural object behind the light. I do not see a shooter.

So for me nothing has changed. I'm open to what Kodak has to say. But at this point and with what has been released here I still think it is an artifact on the film. Be that artifact a reflection or a emulsion source.

I think it's great that somebody actually went back to a film to look. Good comparative analysis is needed.

I also have no issues with being wrong if I am. But for now and with what is here, I'm sticking to my guns. No muzzle flash.

J.
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April 25th, 2009, 6:53 pm #8

behind the strange flash? The size allowed me to see the shadowy image of a person behind the strange flash. Or am I also seeing what I want to see in the animation?
I see a stump. That's just my opinion.
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Cindy
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April 25th, 2009, 6:58 pm #9

BIONIC LIGHTNING BUG...... imagine the torture of being locked in a room with bionic bird calls being played and continual bright flashes from bionic lightning bugs...
I'm going with the bionic lightning bug theory.
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Bitter Monk
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April 25th, 2009, 9:26 pm #10

A muzzle blast/flash is an expansion of hot gas out the barrel. To me at least, and with all due respect, it seems like the round section of the flash maintains a pretty consistent roundness through each frame. If this were a muzzle flash I would think that it would show an increase/expansion to at least some degree. All that said the black and white version makes me think of a sheet ghost.
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