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January 5th, 2018, 6:47 pm #31

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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never was tidied up
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January 5th, 2018, 7:45 pm #32

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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yeah
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January 6th, 2018, 12:02 pm #33

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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It's quite simple:

The stationary observer can observe that the train has shrunk, but he can't shrink the train by just observing it. It that was the case, then different observers could shrink the train differently; the train being confused as to what it should shrink to...

Unfortunately, observers don't have that power to do something to the travelling frame. But relativity is often explained that way.
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January 6th, 2018, 1:17 pm #34

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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Indeed.

Some say here that relativity is a mess, but the mess is in their own heads.
Special relativity is well-defined, mathematically and physically.
It is consistent and free of contradictions in itself.
Many claim to have found a contradiction but then they have made a mistake
themselves, because they have not applied the theory correctly.
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January 6th, 2018, 2:18 pm #35

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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----Some say here that relativity is a mess, but the mess is in their own heads.
Who are 'some'?

----Special relativity is well-defined, mathematically and physically.
Based on what? Please present your arguments for this.

----It is consistent and free of contradictions in itself.
Based on what? Please present your arguments for this.

----Many claim to have found a contradiction but then they have made a mistake
----themselves, because they have not applied the theory correctly.
Who are 'Many'? Please present your arguments.

If you can't show the colour of your money, then you're just an empty barrel bringing nothing to the table.
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January 6th, 2018, 2:45 pm #36

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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the "mess" is in the heads of the people who believe it is not a mess, because they say the travelling twin gets back younger than the stationary twin, but that would require an absolute frame which they deny exists and claim each twin says the other twin's clock is slower.
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January 6th, 2018, 3:59 pm #37

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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>>If you can't show the colour of your money, then you're just an empty barrel bringing nothing to the table.

exactly. we should stop tolerate that.
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January 6th, 2018, 4:06 pm #38

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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>>the "mess" is in the heads of the people who believe it is not a mess

they are lost in a desert
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January 6th, 2018, 4:20 pm #39

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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>>> Who are some who say mess?
Look back in these posts.

>>> Based on what? Please present your arguments for this.
Well-defined: based on the postulates (true or not, but that is not the point).
Consistent: the derivation of the Lorentz transformations is mathematically correct.

>>> Who are 'Many'? Please present your arguments.
You will find them in this forum and papers on this website.

And always the twins.
The scenario with the twins does not comply with SR rules.
So you cannot draw conclusions about there adventure with SR only.



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January 6th, 2018, 4:23 pm #40

The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

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haa haa
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