## Is it true?

roger
roger
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

jz>>Both see length contraction in the other frame.

Yes that is what is usually claimed by mainstream, but “a” claims:

a>>>>the Lorentz formula saying that moving body expands longitudinally.

So, maybe what he means is that according to observer that moves with the moving body, relative to him the surroundings have shrunk and his moving body is longer.

i.e. given a test length L, which both A and B agree on when they are both stationary with respect to each other, such that A says his length L1 =L and B says his length L2 =L, then as B moves with moving body taking with him his length L2, he will say that L now becomes shorter than L2 thus alternatively L2 has become longer than L

Anonym
Anonym
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

roger you rotating in circle. read the einstein 1905 paper.

roger
roger
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

>>you rotating in circle.

no, talking about linear motion and not circular motion

Anonym
Anonym
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

it's a metaphor.

roger
roger
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

non seq

Amigo
Amigo
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

Einstein moved the clock along a polygon - SO - it was about 75% circular =====>>>https://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0208/0208234.pdf

a
a
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

Einstein 1905, p.7:
s=b(x-v.t)=b.x'
Viewed moving body expands with its system k (this shrinks system K).

p.10:
x'=b.s
Viewed moving body shrinks with k, because K expands.

The viewer is in his stationary system K all the time.

quote: "all moving objects — viewed from the “stationary” system —shrivel up into plane figures."

Well, the moving body should expand by the initial Lorentz formula, but also it should shrink by some additional Einstein magic. LOL

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a

roger
roger
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.

>>>also it should shrink by some additional Einstein magic. LOL

yes LOL

as for

>>quote: "all moving objects — viewed from the “stationary” system —shrivel up into plane figures."

"stationary frame" becomes ambiguous because a person moving with the moving object can treat being in a "stationary" frame; so its not just the frame that the object is being moved from that is the "stationary" frame. lol

a
a
The Lorentz transformations are misunderstood.