I am not sure how you could be shocked that Lydia might not come back--she was incredibly boring and irritating. I would be shocked if she or Peggy did come back.
Gretchen: never saw her as a villain per se, but she's not really a victim either. She was a stone-cold gold digger, and although Tamra was absolutely evil from the beginning with her, it is somewhat fair game since she's on this show, and was dating a dying 100 year old man and kissing other men. I don't really feel badly for her at all.
To seek out and then marry Slade? That made this already fake show seem too fake to pretend anymore. That proposal scene was so embarrassing. I won't lie though, I think it was hilarious how much Tamra et al. made fun of her stupid and ugly products, especially at that bachelorette.
I really hope they don't bring her back. She brought nothing interesting or real to the show, and I would much rather see Alexis (at least she's kind of pretty and unintentionally funny) or Heather (I want to see that house and all the ice cubes her refrigerator can make--LOL) return. She's not pretty at all, she's not rich, and her life is fake and hollow. Honestly, I think I would rather watch Peggy pretend to only speak Armenian and roll grape leaves paint dry.
Like I've said before- I don't think Bravo want to admit she wasn't that great as a housewife yet again. She served her purpose in getting Tamra and Vicki to talk and to bring Peggy in, I just don't see them having her a one and done twice. At least she was confrontational this season, but still a bore. I'd rather Lydia then Megan with a baby again to be honest.
Gretchen kinda got the villian edit her last season I guess, but you could say everyone was with how Alexis was treated. I never saw her and Tamra's friendship lasting. I guess I just don't think she's smart enough to get the villian role.
I dunno- I see the "villian" of the housewives to be very calculating, manipulating but also sweet to your face. Some are just outright crazy bitches - see Brandi Galnville and LeeAnn Locken. The villian edit is different from being the actual villian - see Atlanta last season, Kandi was getting the villian edit and then the reunion blew that out of the water. I honestly see LVP as a villian and she has gotten that edit on her for a season or 2. Bethenney kinda is too, but I guess there's a difference between franchises, I don't see either BH or NYC ever having a knock down drag out fight or threatening of lives like other franchises.
On another note- is anyone wondering what the cast of NYC is gonna look like? It looks like everyone is back full time.
Also, let's just give Kim D a slot on NJ at this point, what do they hold anyways? Her fashion show has always brought the most drama to the show as well as anything she says. I hope she's getting a pretty penny for her appearances since her event always has created the biggest drama at the end or for the rest of each season. The season finale or the episode before it has been the Psche fashion show a couple of times now. Or at least close to it.