The Random Mariah Thoughts Thread

All discussions related to Mariah Carey.
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December 15th, 2017, 8:22 am #15201

People love her or love to hate her. Her personality leaves her open to that. I think it's interesting though that she really does get more flak that anyone else, and there are FAR bigger bitches in this industry, who are known as strong women who know what they want.

Mariah gets it far worse than say, Madonna, who is far more rude, petty and can't even sing. For all Mariah might be a diva, she isn't rude to people around her and most of the people who meet her say to the contrary. Artists like Madonna just seem to own it in a way Mariah doesn't. I don't know if it's her insecurity that goes with it that makes her a particular target. She is a diva, but a lot of her antics are stemming from her being an insecure person - her obsession with lighting, her taking a disliking to new talent that cuts too close to the bone in terms of basing their music on her, it all comes from low self esteem.

I think people pick up on that and it makes her an easy target. She's not a diva in a "give no f*cks" way.
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December 15th, 2017, 10:51 am #15202

I agree with everything that was posted, unfortunately it is where she is now.

However I am optimistic because she has professional management now and I believe they can turn some of it around. In just one month and a half Mariah has done that charity short concert, the Johnny Hallaway tribute, is back to wearing flattering outfits. Even from a pessimistic view, at least she will stop doing harm to her own image.

Her last team basically portrayed her like another run of the mill idiotic reality star, it certainly worsened her image.
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December 15th, 2017, 11:10 am #15203

I still think she could do a great live performance somewhere that would garner goodwill, like when she did Star Spangled Banner or her 2006 Grammy performance. Those were very well-received by the public and media. Even if she lips some of it she can still impress people IF she looks like she's really into it i.e. the Grammys.
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December 15th, 2017, 12:02 pm #15204

Yeah Mariah's "thing" now with the GP is that she doesn't care. She's given up. All her clips that go viral are of her seemingly looking uninteresting and bored.

Slowly she can regain this by consistently doing good things like the xmas tour for which I have seen only positive press, and being more aware of what's going on around her (that's why the AIDS foundation concert, climate change sound bites, etc help). But the sad reality is, like countless times before she can slowly build up a better image and better rep as a performer, but people don't check for that. The next slip up and it's back to square one.

I can understand why she is reluctant to put herself on any big platforms.
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December 15th, 2017, 12:52 pm #15205

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The truth is, she's closer to it than most people think and is still capable of stunning looks and vocals. It's in her own mind that prevents her from being able to properly demonstrate this to the general public. And, tbh, at this point it's part of her charm for me. No matter how enormously talented and successful she is, her insecurities make me love her even more.


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December 15th, 2017, 1:14 pm #15206

Yeah I totally agree, but it's also what people who hate her target her for. But as someone who has followed her story, that is totally part of her charm and what makes her human. If your only perception of Mariah is what the media write about her or the way she sometimes presents herself, then I can understand why people who aren't invested like to rag on her.

That being said I'd much rather Mariah be the way she is, flawed, insecure but with a good heart. Many other artists I swear are nasty or difficult just because they can be or for the shock factor.
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December 15th, 2017, 2:46 pm #15207

I'm loving this holiday lambily heart-to-heart lol. TOGETHER WE STAN for our flawed iconic legend no matter what!
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December 16th, 2017, 5:30 am #15208

Personally I don’t think Mariah is nearly as hated as some people here think.  I still run into a lot of support for her on social media. More worrisome I think, is a growing number of people who just don’t think or care about her either way anymore. She’s just sort of living off her past fame they think, without adding anything as either an artist or a humanitarian. She’s just not in the conversation at all. I have friends who used to be casual fans, who just find her boring an uninteresting.
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December 16th, 2017, 5:36 am #15209

^Oh she's definitely always in the conversation. Out of her peers she's definitely the one that's still in the gossip rags discussing her love life etc (just look at all the drama with James Packer), or there's some photo of her with the kids. As a celebrity she's still out there in a way that Celine and others aren't.
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December 16th, 2017, 5:49 am #15210

Johnny XI wrote: Personally I don’t think Mariah is nearly as hated as some people here think.  I still run into a lot of support for her on social media. More worrisome I think, is a growing number of people who just don’t think or care about her either way anymore. She’s just sort of living off her past fame they think, without adding anything as either an artist or a humanitarian. She’s just not in the conversation at all. I have friends who used to be casual fans, who just find her boring an uninteresting.
I wouldn't call it "worrisome" in that Mariah has essentially been living off her past fame. She's released 1 studio album in 7 years. She's had a residency the past couple of years based on her #1s, and she's had holidays shows based on her most known song. Why would anyone see her as doing something other than living off her past fame?

She at least has the advantage of "AIWFCIY" keeping her relevant with young listeners, as well as her social media presence and other things keeping her name out there. She has a chance of relevance because of those things, but she hasn't exactly been doing anything to get it.
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