OBITUARY FOR MARY ROSSER

OBITUARY FOR MARY ROSSER

Joined: November 19th, 2009, 10:24 pm

November 13th, 2010, 9:08 pm #1

Out of decency to the memory of Mary Rosser, ex Chief Exec of the PPPS, there should be an obituary in the Star and so should the MML honour her.
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Pete Davies
Pete Davies

November 14th, 2010, 5:42 am #2

Yes, comrades may have had their differences, but she did help lead the Star through one of the greatest challenges to its existence with the collapse of socialism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, and the resulting loss of the massive Soviet order for the paper, also not forgetting her refusal to heed the Eurocommunists' diktats in the 1980s and the assertion of the paper's independence.
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Perry Striker
Perry Striker

November 14th, 2010, 6:18 pm #3

Should this include her absolutely disgraceful and despicable role in the late 1990s when she sacked the Stars Editor on completely false and trumped up charges and in reality because her husband the deeply dim, sectarian and incresaingly paranoid Mike Hicks had just been ousted as CPB General Secretary?

The consequent and ultimately successful industrial action at the Star nearly resulted in the Star itself going down the pan, for which the Hicks-Rosser-Bellamy faction would have been 100% to blame.

Im all for showing respect for the departed, but great woman and communist, she certainly was not.
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Mediaman
Mediaman

November 19th, 2010, 12:45 pm #4

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Perry Striker
Perry Striker

November 19th, 2010, 10:27 pm #5

Very bitter and twisted. To utilise your wifes death as an opportunity to assault the Communist Party of Britain is cheap, sad and rather disgusting. That is no way to salute your partner. I wish Mike peace, but I suspect not in this life.

Mike and Mary played an absolutely magnificent and sterling role in defending and fighting like absolutely bloody hell the old CPGB and the Morning Star against the appalling onslaught and corruption of the so-called eurocommunists. (Anyone who follows this site will know I do not regard the homosexual leaning, right wing revisionist, liberal/SDP faction who took over the CPGB in the 1980s as genuine eurocommunists).

Mike, Mary and many other comrades played an absolutely outstanding role in re-establishing the Communist Party in Britain. They steered and led it through the traumatic times of the collapse of the USSR and the socialist countries. Unfortunately, they agreed a wrong assessment of that collapse, but they deserve the credit for ensuring the survival and continuity of the Communist Party in Britain, through that period.

Sadly, Mike and Marys increasing feeling that as a result of their own acknowledged contribution to the struggle that the CPB and the Morning Star were as of right their own personal property to do as they will and, frankly, dictate over others, to become increasingly paranoid over the consequences of the party attracting and recruiting into membership new and talented forces, to abuse and denigrate the decision of comrades like Ken Gill and Mick Costello to (re)join the CPB as surrender, meant it was ultimately right to dismiss Mike Hicks and replace him as General Secretary by Robert Griffiths.

I am sorry, but building communist unity and the developing of a clear and progressive perspective within the real labour movement took precedence over the disintegrating personalities of people around Mike and Mary.

Mike was removed as General Secretary by an EC elected at a Congress which he had no cause or reason to claim was factional. He tried that on from the previous Congress which elected an EC which did try and throw him out and that was investigated and dealt with appropriately. He raised no issue whatsoever with the Congress which elected the EC which finally did throw him out.

Wouldnt it have been impressive if Mike, Mary and their factional comrades had accepted their dismissal with dignity and discipline, and as we other mortals would have done, got on with the business of developing and contributing the politics and organisation of a Communist party?

No, they chose to use the Morning Star as a platform to re-project their dismissed leadership roles, sacking the editor John Haylett, resulting in a massive strike which the Hicks-Rosser family faction lost, but which could easily have resulted in the end of the Star itself.

And for their role in triggering that violent attack on the Morning Star, a paper owned and managed by the Peoples Press Printing Society, bringing it to the point of destruction, they were disciplined. Correctly and appropriately.

If Mike and Mary were real communist men and women, they would have been disciplined and correct to simply accept they were no longer in leadership positions, but would have continued to contribute to the building of the communist Party in Britain. They have not. Their loss. Not ours.
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Eye witness
Eye witness

November 21st, 2010, 10:14 pm #6

Mike Hicks writes in Tribune that 'Nearly half the EC, including Mary [Rosser], were forced out of the party in 1999 by sectarian and other elements'.

No disciplinary action was taken against Mike Hicks or Mary Rosser by the CPB. Nor was any being planned. Hicks had been voted out of the General Secretary's position (by 17 votes to 13, if memory serves) in January 1998. He was offered the Chair and a seat on the Political Committee, but refused them before stamping out of the Executive meeting in a fit of pique.

In retaliation, Mary Rosser engineered the sacking of John Haylett as editor of the Morning Star. After the journalists went on strike and Haylett was reinstated following a tribunal of inquiry, the Rosser-Hicks faction suffered a massive defeat at the PPPS AGM meetings, which drew big turnouts of Morning Star shareholders.

The only members of the Rosser-Hicks faction to be expelled from the CPB were George Wake, not a member of the CPB Executive, for writing a scurrilous letter to trade union leaders attacking the CPB leadership, and then Pete Ritman (also not an Executive member) for using a CPB membership list to circulate a factional journal attacking the CPB leadership.

No member of the CPB Executive was expelled at any time. Nobody was 'forced out of the party' except Wake and Ritman. If Hicks can name one ('nearly half the EC'!!!) I'll apologise for calling him a shoddy liar.
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Captain Winters
Captain Winters

November 22nd, 2010, 3:27 pm #7

I really want the party to grow beyond the lasting effects of the destruction of the old party. The key point is it needs to recruit beyond the current 'market' of potential and existing members. It needs to concentrate on ordinary people rather than family members, self-interested big wigs and strange 'alternative' types-I.E lonely losers.

The trouble with the CPB is many of its members do not put in hours of work to build the organisation, they use it to further themselves as an individual.There are many problems with having a large section of your membership as nothing less than egotists.

We need the communist party of britian to grow, people need to stop taking things like votes for positions personally and stop damaging the organisation with petty vendettas. The party almost died in the 90s and it was only sustained partly by heroic amounts of effort and partly by people 'encouraging' their sons and daughters to get involved. The party suffered and is suffering from some people treating it as a family business that exists only to boost their own profile.

Lets not let anybody get in the way of building the party. Too many strange people in the party want to turn it into some cult-like social club. We could start to marginalise these idiots by concentrating recruitment on ordinary working class folk.

Less family members who see the party as their property, less big heads who only want to further their own agendas, less social outcasts who see communism as a little niche subculture that makes them different from everyone else,

Lets recruit ordinary men and women who have friends and families, who are part of their communities, who enjoy football over the elitist activities of some CPB members. The party cannot become a proper party if it continues to build itself on certain families, career minded opportunists, or weird vegetarian individualists who live on their own.

Lets re-engage with ordinary working class communities
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bobby johnes
bobby johnes

November 26th, 2010, 12:18 am #8

Out of decency to the memory of Mary Rosser, ex Chief Exec of the PPPS, there should be an obituary in the Star and so should the MML honour her.
It is sad that you can say nothing good. When none of you ever put yourselves out there for the fire. Very easy to sit back there and burn a witch!!!


Polonius:
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!
Hamlet Act 1, scene 3, 7882

True believe is what she had
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Ilya Ehrenburg
Ilya Ehrenburg

December 23rd, 2010, 10:32 pm #10

I really want the party to grow beyond the lasting effects of the destruction of the old party. The key point is it needs to recruit beyond the current 'market' of potential and existing members. It needs to concentrate on ordinary people rather than family members, self-interested big wigs and strange 'alternative' types-I.E lonely losers.

The trouble with the CPB is many of its members do not put in hours of work to build the organisation, they use it to further themselves as an individual.There are many problems with having a large section of your membership as nothing less than egotists.

We need the communist party of britian to grow, people need to stop taking things like votes for positions personally and stop damaging the organisation with petty vendettas. The party almost died in the 90s and it was only sustained partly by heroic amounts of effort and partly by people 'encouraging' their sons and daughters to get involved. The party suffered and is suffering from some people treating it as a family business that exists only to boost their own profile.

Lets not let anybody get in the way of building the party. Too many strange people in the party want to turn it into some cult-like social club. We could start to marginalise these idiots by concentrating recruitment on ordinary working class folk.

Less family members who see the party as their property, less big heads who only want to further their own agendas, less social outcasts who see communism as a little niche subculture that makes them different from everyone else,

Lets recruit ordinary men and women who have friends and families, who are part of their communities, who enjoy football over the elitist activities of some CPB members. The party cannot become a proper party if it continues to build itself on certain families, career minded opportunists, or weird vegetarian individualists who live on their own.

Lets re-engage with ordinary working class communities
Here here! A message talking sense! Unfortunately too many parties are made up of cliques and generall speaking the working class is viewed as something that will come to support communism after the revolution. It's nice to have the best Marxist analysis out there but the trick lies in making that analysis relevant and aplicable to working people who have been blinded by years of propaganda. And the way to do that is not to ask them to support the Taliban for example..
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