It's that Mann again

It's that Mann again

Kim Philby
Kim Philby

May 12th, 2016, 11:12 am #1

It seems that John Mann the Labour MP who has become the bane of Ken Livingstone, was once a member of Clause 4. Funny old world isn't it...(see Former Communists passim).



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Guy Burgess
Guy Burgess

May 12th, 2016, 2:43 pm #2

denounced as a hypocrite by the former Militants in the latest copy of the "Socialist" here:


http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/issue/ ... -hypocrisy




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Mediaman
Mediaman

May 17th, 2016, 6:43 pm #3



Interesting 2015 exchange between Tony Greenstein and John Mann MP:

http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/jo ... g-and.html
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Harsanyi_Janos
Harsanyi_Janos

May 17th, 2016, 11:56 pm #4

I wonder why Mann is upset that Tony Greenstein calls hims Zionist. It seems obvious that he is one based on his own statements.

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Kim Philby
Kim Philby

May 25th, 2016, 8:11 am #5


Interesting piece here:

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/as ... out-labour



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Kim Philby
Kim Philby

June 3rd, 2016, 3:07 pm #6

Jeremy Corbyn's recent comments on the recent Zionist campaign within the Labour Party:

http://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/corbyn ... nastiness/



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Guy Burgess
Guy Burgess

June 9th, 2016, 10:05 am #7

...in a letter in Wednesday's Morning Star headed "Dodgy Livingstone has no place in the Star".

The former national chair of the CPB, long suspected by the old Rosser/Hicks group of being a member of the shadowy Straight Left faction, likes to pose as an orthodox Marxist-Leninist. Now she is opposing the decision to give Ken Livingstone a regular column in the Star "in view of Livingstone's suspension from the Labour Party and Shami Chakrabarti's inquiry into anti-semitism". Though she says she doesn't support "John Mann's outrageous tactics" she says the Livingstone column is "highly embarrassing" and "serves to muddy the waters among our allies while at the same time detracting from our own stated opposition to anti-semitism".

Who are these "allies"? Prof. Davis doesn't say. But some are clearly the pseudo-left clique in Momentum that is trying to silence any anti-Zionist voices within the Labour Party. She claims that Livingstone "has a chequered history of making injudicious comments bordering on the anti-semitic" and concludes with "I, as a communist and a Jew, am personally affronted by the privileged treatment he is receiving. I can only hope the decision to offer him a column will be reversed".

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Mr Red
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June 9th, 2016, 11:38 am #8

I can't understand how one expects to bring about revolutionary change while pandering to the whims of others whenever it suits. Any revolutionary movement will be found guilty somewhere. One must take the initiative, not leave it to others to set.
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Kim Philby
Kim Philby

June 9th, 2016, 5:48 pm #9

John Haylett, onetime editor of the Star and occasional visitor to this august forum , entered the fray in today's (Thursday 9th June) Morning Star to defend the decision to give Ken Livingstone a regular column. Unfortunately the online Star no longer carries the letters so you'll have to rely on the print edition for the moment. Mary Davis' letter has, however, been approvingly published in full on Jim Denham's "Shiraz Socialist" blog, which regularly defends the odious pro-Zionist Trotskyist "Alliance for Workers Liberty". Check it out here:

https://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2 ... ning-star/


Enjoy!


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June 9th, 2016, 10:02 pm #10

My letter in the Morning Star on June 9:

AS a Morning Star staff member, I would not normally submit my views to our paper’s letters page, but Mary Davis’s direct reference to me (M Star June 8) compels me to respond.

Mary is correct to say that Ken Livingstone and the group around him supported my sacking as Morning Star editor in 1998, opposing comrades such as Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn who lined up in solidarity with Star journalists striking to secure my reinstatement.

However, she must recall that, following the successful conclusion of the strike, Ken and I agreed that he should once again write a regular column in the Morning Star.

It would have been easy to bear a grudge and to cold-shoulder Ken, but this would have gone against our paper’s ethos of encouraging labour movement unity and promoting the Morning Star as the daily voice of the left, not simply one section of it.

Mary, as a communist, knows that, where blacklisting and denial of platforms to people in the labour movement are concerned, communists are usually the first victims.

Such sanctions should be applied only to racists and fascists and, in my view, Ken cannot be considered either.

His shoot-from-the-lip style and refusal to apologise for ill-judged comments — such as his “concentration camp guard” dig at a Jewish journalist — will often provoke or irritate, but his political record is globally positive.

We have to be aware that the current furore about anti-semitism in the Labour Party has been largely confected as a device to undermine Jeremy Corbyn and demean his record of supporting Palestinian national rights.

Having, as political editor, discussed the issue with our editor Ben Chacko, I support his decision to give Ken a regular column.

JOHN HAYLETT
Cardiff
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