French Juche Communist Party

French Juche Communist Party

Ordinary Proletarian(reconstructed)
Ordinary Proletarian(reconstructed)

October 22nd, 2009, 5:20 am #1

Something to annoy NM and Hawthorn and the rest of them-someone has formed a PCF Juche
http://juchefrance.org/
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October 22nd, 2009, 8:05 am #2

Hmm. I would have thought that the people who might get a bit apprehensive about this are members of the NCP, CPGB-ML, etc etc. After all, at present they meet up at Juche solidarity group meetings, but if these study-groups and friendship meetings start turning into parties, then they will become competitors, and that rather alters things.
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NM
NM

October 22nd, 2009, 8:06 am #3

Something to annoy NM and Hawthorn and the rest of them-someone has formed a PCF Juche
http://juchefrance.org/
No, I am more amused. I can't even take my own politics too seriously, let alone anyone else's. But - we don't really know whether anyone has actually set up a French Juche CP. Someone has set up a website. But that is not necessarily the same thing.
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Pierre L
Pierre L

October 23rd, 2009, 2:31 am #4

Something to annoy NM and Hawthorn and the rest of them-someone has formed a PCF Juche
http://juchefrance.org/
For this is pretty clearly a false flag -- the state has a history of this. Clearly some were fooled though.
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October 23rd, 2009, 5:59 am #5

Something to annoy NM and Hawthorn and the rest of them-someone has formed a PCF Juche
http://juchefrance.org/
Now something to annoy Mr Prole.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8321670.stm
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October 23rd, 2009, 6:19 am #6

For this is pretty clearly a false flag -- the state has a history of this. Clearly some were fooled though.
Sent me back to reread it, and I think you are right - although telling sincere pro-Juche material from parody is very difficult. But there are some giveaways. The statutes and the messages from supporters, for example - although again, the latter are very close to what are claimed to be real messages of support on some webpages that appear to be sincere (something prevents me from using the word "genuine").
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NM
NM

October 23rd, 2009, 10:38 am #7

For this is pretty clearly a false flag -- the state has a history of this. Clearly some were fooled though.
I can well believe that this website does not reflect a genuine organisation. But I fail to see what possible benefit it could bring to the French state. If there were a substantial body of North Korea-admirers in France, and it were necessary to discredit them, then there might be some point. But there isn't. And after all, any lone obsessive can set up a website - and, as we know, they do...
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NM
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October 23rd, 2009, 10:49 am #8

An interesting link on the PCJF site -http://www.pcn-ncp.com/ - an example of the red-brown phenomenon. I wouldn't say that North Korean ideology is identical to red-brown national Bolshevism (which is, after all, a Russian and German invention). But the affinities are certainly there, and the presence of that link rather underlines that.
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October 23rd, 2009, 11:15 am #9

On this topic, note the similarities between the following:

http://uk.geocities.com/juche1961/

http://www.pcn-ncp.com/English.html
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October 23rd, 2009, 1:24 pm #10

Google for , mentioned in one of the above links, and you will get some interesting hits . . . (and not quite the hits one should be expecting when Googling an organization mentioned in positive terms in the webpage of a party that associates itself with a so-called socialist state).
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