Guy Burgess
Guy Burgess

February 28th, 2008, 12:17 am #11

I had to look this up to jog my memory to see if Old Prole was correct as I was an avid fan of the great Time Lord in the early 1970s (particularly when he confronted the Master).

Well the first social comment about miners comes in Doctor Who and the Green Death (1973):

http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/545918/index.html

and a more stronger line appears in Doctor Who and The Monster of Peladon (1975)

http://www.amazon.ca/Doctor-Who-Monster ... 6304432410

The moderate royalist "Gebek" was equated with Joe Gormley and the wild hothead "Ettis" with Arthur Scargill by wags at the time.

there's also an interesting overview from Socialist Review that's worth reading:

http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/artic ... umber=9401


Guy Burgess
Eton & Cambridge


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Ordinary Proletarian
Ordinary Proletarian

February 28th, 2008, 6:54 am #12

The Peladon episode must have had a right wing scriptwriter,I
too remember the reference to the 'moderate'.

However the "Green Death" also mentioned by G Burgess was
profoundly anti capitalist.The villain is a multi national
chemicals company called "Global Chemicals" whose boss is
just called the "boss" and is in fact really a giant
computer.
Another anti capitalist episode is "The Sun Makers" which
features at the end a succesful proletarian revolution against an intergalactic capitalist monopoly corporation.

In an early 70s story the Dr Who tells a PRC delegation that
he met Chairman Mao in the 1930s and speaks well of him.

Finally story "Inferno" is anti fascist
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Joined: May 13th, 2005, 7:50 am

March 3rd, 2008, 7:12 am #13

I find that I have on my shelf a collection of Soviet SF short stories in English, entitled "Destination Amaltheia". Undated, but I guess mid to late 1960s. Anyone who wants it for free, let me know. I'm thinning out my shelves prior to retirement. I also have the ?13 volumes of the English Collected Stalin, some Collected Marx and Engels, and I think the complete Collected Lenin. Free to anyone who pays the postage. Won't be cheap to send the latter from Norway, where I live, though . . .
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Yuri
Yuri

March 11th, 2008, 11:07 am #14

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Cuban Pete
Cuban Pete

March 11th, 2008, 11:21 am #15

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Mediaman
Mediaman

March 11th, 2008, 4:38 pm #16

some interesting spots:

Science Fiction in the German Democratic Republic:

http://www.depauw.edu/SFs/review_essays/james33.htm


a short online history of GDR fandom

http://fanac.org/Fan_Histories/Germany/

plus a review of the GDR SF film "Eolomea"

http://www.socialistfilms.org/2007/02/e ... -1972.html
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November 11th, 2016, 2:25 pm #17


The Strugatsky brothers Roadside Picnic and Tarkovsky’s Stalker are referenced in Adam Curtis’ new collage documentary on the ‘fakeness’ of modern political culture entitled “Hypernormalisation" a term which apparently originates in Alexei Yurchak’s "Everything was Forever, Until it was No More: The Last Soviet Generation”. Yurchak's book is said to be an 'ethnographic account'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... malisation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUiqaFIONPQ

A new translation of Roadside Picnic, restoring the full original text,was published on 2012 with a foreword by Ursula K. Le Guin and an afterword by Boris Strugatsky.
The latter gives insights into the struggles against bureaucracy that the Strugatsky had in getting Roadside Picnic - which they were of course eventually successful in - but offers no succour to those wishing for evidence that the book was anti-soviet or anti-socialist. Indeed Boris states:
"And the entire time, in all our letters and applications, we took great pains to emphasise THAT WHICH TO US SEEMED COMPLETELY OBVIOUS: the novel contained nothing criminal; it was ideologically appropriate and certainly not dangerous in that sense. And the fact that the world depicted in it was coarse, cruel and and hopeless, well that was how it had to be - it was the world of "decaying capitalism and triumphant ideology".
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