KarlHungus
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June 11th, 2015, 4:33 pm #11

Zabolek wrote:
oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:I presume it will be teams not in Champions League, like Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli, Borussia Dortmund, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Olympique Marseille, Monaco, etc.
Why not? Panini can't use UEFA CL Logo but team is the team may be all, including CL participants. The war has just begun :bum
I would think it's more complicated than just a matter of logo.

Otherwise, why would Topps and Panini have fought for years for the Champions League's rights when they could very simply have offered a collection with only players in Champions League's teams, just without the logo? :shrug
They also can't use the name "Champions League". Together with not being allowed to use the logo that makes a major difference for your product.
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June 11th, 2015, 4:38 pm #12

cardmonster wrote:Yes, but still I don't think it was a good idea for Panini to sell the CL rights to Topps. It just means that they have messed up a tradition which had been carrying on for years and personally, I don't think Topps will do a very good job.
As far as I know Panini didn't sell the rights to Topps. I guess that there was a bidding process and that Topps has simply offered more money to UEFA than Panini did.
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June 12th, 2015, 8:37 am #13

KarlHungus wrote:
Zabolek wrote:
oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:I presume it will be teams not in Champions League, like Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli, Borussia Dortmund, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Olympique Marseille, Monaco, etc.
Why not? Panini can't use UEFA CL Logo but team is the team may be all, including CL participants. The war has just begun :bum
I would think it's more complicated than just a matter of logo.

Otherwise, why would Topps and Panini have fought for years for the Champions League's rights when they could very simply have offered a collection with only players in Champions League's teams, just without the logo? :shrug
They also can't use the name "Champions League". Together with not being allowed to use the logo that makes a major difference for your product.
Agreed, but I don't think that makes such a big difference - they can still come up with a name like European Champions, Masters of Europe and kids (main market of Adrenalyn XL cards) would nonetheless be interested. Mind you, even adult collectors would still be.

Giving the matter more thought yesterday, I came up to a conclusion approaching Spanish's.

For France, there could be Marseille, not sure about PSG (last time a collection was issued for them it was an Italian minor company), Lyons or Monaco.
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June 12th, 2015, 2:02 pm #14

Zabolek wrote:
KarlHungus wrote:
Zabolek wrote:
oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:I presume it will be teams not in Champions League, like Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli, Borussia Dortmund, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Olympique Marseille, Monaco, etc.
Why not? Panini can't use UEFA CL Logo but team is the team may be all, including CL participants. The war has just begun
I would think it's more complicated than just a matter of logo.<br /><br />Otherwise, why would Topps and Panini have fought for years for the Champions League's rights when they could very simply have offered a collection with only players in Champions League's teams, just without the logo?
They also can't use the name "Champions League". Together with not being allowed to use the logo that makes a major difference for your product.
Agreed, but I don't think that makes such a big difference - they can still come up with a name like European Champions, Masters of Europe and kids (main market of Adrenalyn XL cards) would nonetheless be interested. Mind you, even adult collectors would still be. <br /><br />Giving the matter more thought yesterday, I came up to a conclusion approaching Spanish's.<br /><br />For France, there could be Marseille, not sure about PSG (last time a collection was issued for them it was an Italian minor company), Lyons or Monaco.
To be able to release a "Top Teams" set without having the Champions League contract, you need to have contracts with several individual European top teams. Until last season Topps did not have the CL contract and very little or no contracts with individual European top teams (as most of these were also in Panini's hands), so I'm sure they never even considered a "Top Teams"-like set.
Now the situation has changed. Topps has the Champions League contract and can release a Champions League set, and Panini still has its individual contracts with European top teams so they can release their "Top Teams" set.
As collectors, we should be happy :clap

If the contracts that Panini has for the PFL and WCCF sets also gives them the right to use these teams in their Top Teams set, then these teams might be in there:
ITALY: Juventus, Napoli, AC Milan, AS Roma, Internazionale (all in latest PFL11), Fiorentina (in PFL until PFL09, also in WCCF13-14)
SPAIN: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Valencia (all in latest PFL11)
GERMANY: Schalke 04, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munchen (all in latest PFL11), Bayer Leverkusen (in PFL until PFL08, also in WCCF13-14)
ENGLAND: Chelsea (in latest PFL11), Manchester United (in PFL until PFL08, also in WCCF14-15), Arsenal, Manchester City (both in WCCF13-14)
FRANCE: PSG, Monaco (all in latest PFL11)
NETHERLANDS: Ajax (in latest PFL11)

These are already 13 of the 16 teams from the CL 14-15 knock-out phase (and who needs Porto, Basel and Shakhtar Donetsk anyway )
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August 29th, 2015, 11:11 am #15

Hmm, no news for a long time... Will it still be released?
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August 29th, 2015, 12:25 pm #16

New photo that I published on my blog yesterday....

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Top Teams Collection (2015) (02)


FOOTBALL CARTOPHILIC INFO EXCHANGE
- - - checklists and photos of Football Cards and Stickers issued around the world, from 1880s to 2014.


WANTED:
Panini nPower Championship 2010/11 .. .. box (empty or full)
Match Attax Championship 2011/12 .. .. David Marshall - Star Player (signed); Peter Whittingham - Star Player (signed); Robert Earnshaw - MotM (Signed).
Match Attax Championship 2011/12 .. .. 5 card promotional packet with Kenny Miller on the front.
Match Attax Championship 2012/13 .. .. 5 card promotional packet with Craig Bellamy on the front.

Empty PANINI sticker albums for 2012/13 - from Colombia, Portugal, Belgium
Empty GALATA & ERREDI (Italy) album for 2012/13 - U.C. Sampdoria, Torino F.C., A.S. Roma, S.S. Lazio, A.C. Fiorentina


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September 1st, 2015, 5:32 am #17

Alan wrote:New photo that I published on my blog yesterday....

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Top Teams Collection (2015) (02)
This collection start at 15-17.09 .... include:
ADRENALYN XL TOP CLUBS
BOX/PACKS
GIFTBOX
STARTERPACK
MINI TIN


In packs - autograph card and new type of card - TRIO PLAYERS

New Cards - Scandinavia Edition
INTERNATIONAL CLUB LINE UP
IBRACADABRA / ZLATAN SPECIAL SET ! /
RISING STARS
SCANDINAVIAN STARS

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September 1st, 2015, 5:57 am #18

oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:New photo that I published on my blog yesterday....

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Top Teams Collection (2015) (02)
This collection start at 15-17.09 .... include:
ADRENALYN XL TOP CLUBS
BOX/PACKS
GIFTBOX
STARTERPACK
MINI TIN


In packs - autograph card and new type of card - TRIO PLAYERS

New Cards - Scandinavia Edition
INTERNATIONAL CLUB LINE UP
IBRACADABRA / ZLATAN SPECIAL SET ! /
RISING STARS
SCANDINAVIAN STARS
Where do you got that release date from? I did not see any wholesaler letting me preorder it yet???

PS: Just saw that this one ONLY is a Nordic ( Scandinavian ) Release - anyone can confirm that?
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September 1st, 2015, 7:39 am #19

oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:New photo that I published on my blog yesterday....

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Top Teams Collection (2015) (02)
This collection start at 15-17.09 .... include:
ADRENALYN XL TOP CLUBS
BOX/PACKS
GIFTBOX
STARTERPACK
MINI TIN


In packs - autograph card and new type of card - TRIO PLAYERS

New Cards - Scandinavia Edition
INTERNATIONAL CLUB LINE UP
IBRACADABRA / ZLATAN SPECIAL SET ! /
RISING STARS
SCANDINAVIAN STARS
i bet those autographs will be 1:1000 packs
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September 1st, 2015, 3:36 pm #20

JoSTTC wrote:
oneofthebest wrote:
Alan wrote:New photo that I published on my blog yesterday....

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Top Teams Collection (2015) (02)
This collection start at 15-17.09 .... include:
ADRENALYN XL TOP CLUBS
BOX/PACKS
GIFTBOX
STARTERPACK
MINI TIN


In packs - autograph card and new type of card - TRIO PLAYERS

New Cards - Scandinavia Edition
INTERNATIONAL CLUB LINE UP
IBRACADABRA / ZLATAN SPECIAL SET ! /
RISING STARS
SCANDINAVIAN STARS
Where do you got that release date from? I did not see any wholesaler letting me preorder it yet???

PS: Just saw that this one ONLY is a Nordic ( Scandinavian ) Release - anyone can confirm that?
release day 15.09. in Nordic

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