## First pics, release date and information

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pregra
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Thanks for video, pictures etc.

Loving all the Messi cards Although it's easy to see that the 'Icon' card is photoshopped - Messi has yet to play in the WC shirt.
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Macca
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Joined: May 22nd, 2010, 7:20 pm
These available in England yet?

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Renko
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punciak70 wrote:Do you like maths? I like.
if all cards would be on average in boosters as panini sugest so count:
e.g 1 sp in 7 packs so for 32 sp we need 32*7 packs =224 packs, it meaqns that to collect 32 sp we need open 224 packs
if we count the same for others to collect need:

32 Star player - 1 in 7 packs 32*7=224packs
25 Utility player - 1 in 8 packs 25*8=200
25 One to Watch  1 in 8 packs =200
27 Fans Favourite  1 in 8 packs =216
9 Experts  1 in 8 packs 9*8=72 (only 72!)
18 Defensive Rocks  1 in 12 packs 18*12=216
9 Goal Stoppers  1 in 9 packs 9*9=81
32 Team Logos  1 på 17 paket 32*17=544!! (to collect all 32 need 544 packs
if logo will be as often as panini suggest)
18 Game Changers  1 in 17 packs 18*17=306
6 Top Masters  1 in 35 packs 6*35=210
5 Double Trouble  1 in 100 packs 5*100=500
5 Icons  1 in 40 packs =200
5 Goal Machines  1 in 60 packs =300

so if we opened 500 boosters we can collect on averae all cards apat from logos.o f course panini don't put cards as they suggest from my expirience.
Okay I'm not a maths genius, but if you opened 500 packs you could expect to get 5 Double Trouble cards - not 5 different Double Trouble cards. My pen and paper calculation is 1,142 packs on average to get 5 different cards (you'd also get 6.42 duplicates :D)

workings: 100 to get the first one (of 5), 125 to get one of the remaining 4, 167 to get one of the remaining 3, 250 to get one of the remaining 2, 500 to get the last one. This is an average; could be more or less

So I think its a bit excessively hard

I challenge anyone to open 1,142 packs and not curse when they still need a couple of team logos and a double trouble
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Matt
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Joined: March 2nd, 2012, 8:11 pm
WOW! They all look amazing! Can't wait for these to come on sale here in the UK, does anyone know when they are on sale here?

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bibster
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Joined: February 25th, 2010, 9:40 pm
Next Thursday I think Matt.
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jayce101
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Renko wrote:
punciak70 wrote:Do you like maths? I like.
if all cards would be on average in boosters as panini sugest so count:
e.g 1 sp in 7 packs so for 32 sp we need 32*7 packs =224 packs, it meaqns that to collect 32 sp we need open 224 packs
if we count the same for others to collect need:

32 Star player - 1 in 7 packs 32*7=224packs
25 Utility player - 1 in 8 packs 25*8=200
25 One to Watch  1 in 8 packs =200
27 Fans Favourite  1 in 8 packs =216
9 Experts  1 in 8 packs 9*8=72 (only 72!)
18 Defensive Rocks  1 in 12 packs 18*12=216
9 Goal Stoppers  1 in 9 packs 9*9=81
32 Team Logos  1 på 17 paket 32*17=544!! (to collect all 32 need 544 packs
if logo will be as often as panini suggest)
18 Game Changers  1 in 17 packs 18*17=306
6 Top Masters  1 in 35 packs 6*35=210
5 Double Trouble  1 in 100 packs 5*100=500
5 Icons  1 in 40 packs =200
5 Goal Machines  1 in 60 packs =300

so if we opened 500 boosters we can collect on averae all cards apat from logos.o f course panini don't put cards as they suggest from my expirience.
Okay I'm not a maths genius, but if you opened 500 packs you could expect to get 5 Double Trouble cards - not 5 different Double Trouble cards. My pen and paper calculation is 1,142 packs on average to get 5 different cards (you'd also get 6.42 duplicates :D)

workings: 100 to get the first one (of 5), 125 to get one of the remaining 4, 167 to get one of the remaining 3, 250 to get one of the remaining 2, 500 to get the last one. This is an average; could be more or less

So I think its a bit excessively hard

I challenge anyone to open 1,142 packs and not curse when they still need a couple of team logos and a double trouble
you could look at it like this
it all depends on how panini regard their ratio of hits

there are 216 insert cards
the lowest hit ratio is 1 in 7
therefore 216 x 7 = 1512 packs and that is provided no duplicates appear

until someone opens 100 packs and provides a breakdown you wont know for sure

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Matt
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bibster wrote:Next Thursday I think Matt.
Great, thanks!

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MatchAttaxMaster101
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Joined: July 21st, 2011, 4:36 pm
Ugh the England players. They are wearing grey, yes GREY. It is really disturbing.

Anyway, seems though you have to get in excess of a few boxes to complete this set, and I know there are multiple member disliking the idea, or task even, but I l like it . I know blatantly that I am not going to complete the set, but it will be great to have a real treat of opening a really rare card, something which is a fine art and recently perfected by panini. Topps fail at this task, weather the card is too easy to obtain or far far too rare. Panini have made a set which combines beautiful cards with the fantastic feeling of pure exictment of getting a foil, or rare card in paninis case. And very emblematic of Brazil too, will definitely get me in the mood for summer.

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Tankerton1
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Joined: November 2nd, 2010, 7:58 pm
The set looks fantastic, panini have made so much effort with this set, which is brilliant and should make this one of the best sets released in a while and a nice one to collect