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fs1e50
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November 16th, 2008, 3:04 pm #11

zixxerboy wrote:so once more this 1.8mm dimension is circumferncial?


RDchair - what is a tab packet card?
1.8mm of piston travel before tdc. You put a dial gauge down the plugol, find top dead center, then turn it back 1.8mm.

Your pionter on the condenser should line up with the mark on the flywheel at this point.
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November 16th, 2008, 3:46 pm #12

zixxerboy wrote:so once more this 1.8mm dimension is circumferncial?


RDchair - what is a tab packet card?
cigarrette packet
mind I would have thought that to be about 25thou??
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fs1e50
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November 16th, 2008, 3:49 pm #13

Rizla cover works good too. lol
Matt's Motorcycles Guelph Ontario Canada Servicing, mods, and parts for all metric motorcycles http://mattsmotorcycles.com/
Owned bikes; Fs1-e RD80lc mk1 RD 125 lc RZ 350 currently RZ 500 FS1-C RZ 350 IT 465 YZ 490 TDR 250
Moved to canada from uk in '94
Canadian '75 FS1-C mad b.astard mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_Uv4UGFqA
Professor of motorcycle and power sport vehicles Conestoga College Guelph Canada


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November 16th, 2008, 3:59 pm #14

PISTON TRAVEL! BINGO!! BINGO!! BINGO!! Now I get it.

Oh Hey Matt! Rizla. That reminds me of another item thats always good for trading....
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fs1e50
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November 16th, 2008, 4:05 pm #15

Matts Motorcycles is a one stop shop !
Matt's Motorcycles Guelph Ontario Canada Servicing, mods, and parts for all metric motorcycles http://mattsmotorcycles.com/
Owned bikes; Fs1-e RD80lc mk1 RD 125 lc RZ 350 currently RZ 500 FS1-C RZ 350 IT 465 YZ 490 TDR 250
Moved to canada from uk in '94
Canadian '75 FS1-C mad b.astard mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_Uv4UGFqA
Professor of motorcycle and power sport vehicles Conestoga College Guelph Canada


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November 16th, 2008, 5:37 pm #16

Oh and when you say "put a dial gage down the plug hole" what you really mean is a stick a pencil in and watch the travel Correct?

Matt I'm in St Marys so if you're weekends arn't too full I'd be up for a road trip to Guelph. Maybe pop down on a Saturday, have a smoke and spend some time viewing your collection, kicking tires and swapping lies.

Who knows maybe hitch the trailer to the mighty Echo and pull back "treasure"....

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fs1e50
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November 16th, 2008, 5:44 pm #17

Sounds good, gonna have a hang over next weekend though. So be patient, dont usually work on the weekend this time of year.

Let me know.

And no on the pencil, there is a special dial guage needed, a pencils not accurate enough !

Matt's Motorcycles Guelph Ontario Canada Servicing, mods, and parts for all metric motorcycles http://mattsmotorcycles.com/
Owned bikes; Fs1-e RD80lc mk1 RD 125 lc RZ 350 currently RZ 500 FS1-C RZ 350 IT 465 YZ 490 TDR 250
Moved to canada from uk in '94
Canadian '75 FS1-C mad b.astard mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_Uv4UGFqA
Professor of motorcycle and power sport vehicles Conestoga College Guelph Canada


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November 18th, 2008, 6:02 pm #18

I tried the suggestions above and got a real feable orange spark A FEW TIMES mostly nothing. Then I tried setting the timing - it was a little advanced and when I brought it close I got a good spark but still a little hit and miss.

I only see on screw connec ted to the points. I was able to set the timing but I'm confused as to how I set the gap. Normally one adjustment for gap and a second adjustment for timing. What am I missing on such a simple set-up?
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November 18th, 2008, 8:07 pm #19

The timing on a fizzy is fixed ie there is no rotational adjustment of the points assembly back plate. However the timing can be adjusted slightly by varying the points gap, where bigger equals advanced and smaller equals retarded.

In my experience fizzies are quite tolerant of retarded timing where the points gap is too small, but don't run well or not at all if it's too advanced. In use, the points tend to close up as the heel wears and mine has run until the gap has all but dissapeared. If you set the points anywhere between 8 thou and 12 thou, it should spark ok and run.

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fs1e50
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November 19th, 2008, 12:24 am #20

Sounds like timing is not your problem, like mech says pretty much if there opening and closing you should have spark.
Make sure the points contacts are clean, also check all your connections.

Sometimes ive seen someone has hooked up the point wrong, ie bolt insulators put on wrong grounding out the points connection.

How are you checking the spark ? Do you have the plug cap off the end of the leed ?

When i was sixteen i pulled the motor out of mine, and upon assembly pinched the magneto wires between the motor and frame ? Hey its possible.

If your getting spark there is life, however weak. Gotto be something trivial !

Also try unplugging the ignition switch
Matt's Motorcycles Guelph Ontario Canada Servicing, mods, and parts for all metric motorcycles http://mattsmotorcycles.com/
Owned bikes; Fs1-e RD80lc mk1 RD 125 lc RZ 350 currently RZ 500 FS1-C RZ 350 IT 465 YZ 490 TDR 250
Moved to canada from uk in '94
Canadian '75 FS1-C mad b.astard mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_Uv4UGFqA
Professor of motorcycle and power sport vehicles Conestoga College Guelph Canada


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