Charlee GOLD
Charlee GOLD

July 18th, 2004, 12:34 am #21

I have read this Smoke-a-holic post numerous times since finding Whyquit and Freedom. Still, I believe it to be one of the most enlightening, "oh, so that's it!", pieces to be found, and I have been known to verbally try and explain this to several smoking friends! Thanks for bumping this one up again!
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GrumpyOMrsS (Gold)
GrumpyOMrsS (Gold)

October 4th, 2004, 11:27 am #22

Even people taking it up today are not sufficiently warned of how addictive and how dangerous this product is. Of course they know its dangerous and they now hear it is addictive, but very few people realize just how dangerous and how addictive.

If people are asked to rank cigarette smoking dangers compared to the dangers posed by pollution, or illegal drugs, or alcohol induced illnesses, or violence in our society, or the risks of being killed by a drunk driver, or the risk of infectious diseases like pneumonia or AIDS, cigarettes may end up in the middle or maybe even at the bottom of the list. In America, more people die from smoking than people killed in ALL accidents, murders, all suicides, all infectious diseases, all diabetes, all cirrhosis and all olf the AIDS deaths all combined.

Most people don't grasp the true magnitude of the dangers. Also, must people don't realize the true grip of the addiction that nicotine exerts. Worse of all, very few people are given any real understanding of how to take control of the addiction once it has been established. The combination of all of this lack of understanding leaves people ripe from taking up smoking and totally unprepared for getting off of it when they want to quit.

Try to see smokers for who they really are. They are drug addicts who very often do not have the understanding and tools in place to break free of their addiction. You do have the understanding and hopefully at some point they may turn to you for help. When they do share with them what we have shared with you. Help them understand that you were once where they were--you didn't understand why you smoked, why you should stop, how to stop and how to stay off. But once you learned all of this you were able to quit and have proven by example that you have been able to stay off. The example you will have proven is that you have stuck with your commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 30th, 2005, 8:17 pm #23

Chemical dependency upon smoking nicotine is as real and permanent as alcoholism. We now have many studies showing that nicotine causes the human brain to grow millions of extra nicotinic type acetylcholine receptors. We know that it happens in at least 11 different brain regions. De-sensitized to a number of your own natural neuro-chemicals, going home requires the patience to allow time for re-sensitization and time to adjust to re-sensitization.

Last year here in the U.S. the tobacco industry spent $14 billion in order to keep U.S. smokers (and curious youth who can't wait to look and feel more adult) brainwashed into believing that smokers smoke for every reason imaginable except for the truth - that almost all daily smokers are already addicted under DSM-IV mental health standards. Flavor, taste, pleasure, like, love, to make new friends, or for adventure, none provide an honest answer as to why we smoked.

If truly hooked, such rationalizations may have made us feel better about our situation but do not change it. We're true drug addicts in every sense and for us there will always be just two sides of the bars. The question now becomes, on which side will we spend the balance of our time here on earth?



If you have not yet accepted the fact that you are a true drug addict, chemically addicted to an alert dopamine/adrenaline high, then you'd be wise to do so as it's extremely liberating. You'll no longer need the large collection of rationalizations, minimizations and blame transference you've used over the years to justify that next fix and to hide behind. Self honesty will allow you to start throwing them out.

This amazing journey home during which we gradually come to know the real neuro-chemical us can be the most liberating period of self discovery that we'll likely ever know.

All we need to do is to allow ourselves the luxury of not being afraid that we're leaving a major part of us behind. It's normal to feel that way. Feeling that nicotine use defines who we are, gives us our edge, helps us cope and that life without it will be horrible is exactly how the brain is supposed to make us feel about species survival events (eating, thirst quenching, reproduction, nurturing, accomplishemnt) but our dopamine "aaah" and insula carving pathways were fooled by an external chemical. In regard to nicotine it's a lie. You won't feel worse once out from under nicotine's influence but calmer, more relaxed and vastly less stressed. Feelings of needing it are what drug addiction is all about but in regard to external chemcials its false. Even the love in our heart, we get to bring it with us!

Nicotine dependency recovery is a gradual self realization that everything we once did as an actively feeding addict can again be done as well as or better being "us"! Baby steps, just one new piece of the re-adjustment puzzle at a time, you'll see it all begin to fit together soon. Just one guiding principle, no nicotine just one hour, challenge and day at a time! We're with you in spirit.

John
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

May 8th, 2006, 9:41 pm #24

Only one reason people smoke tobacco - to acquire nicotine and keep their balance of 'nicotine normal'.

Only one rule to break free of that Cycle of Dependency, No Nicotine Today.

Only one way to stay in control, on the free side of the bars of the prison of active nictoine addiction - Never Take Another Puff.

JoeJ - Free, Day 483
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June 21st, 2006, 7:21 pm #25

Stress has a physiological effect on the body which makes the urine acidic. Whenever the urine becomes acidic, the body excretes nicotine at an accelerated rate. Thus, when a smoker encounters a stressful situation he loses nicotine and goes into drug withdrawal. Most smokers feel that when they are nervous or upset cigarettes help calm them down. The calming effect, however, is not relief from the emotional strain of the situation, but actually the effect of replenishing the nicotine supply and ending the withdrawal. It is easy to understand why the smoker without this basic knowledge of stress and its nicotine effect is afraid to give up smoking. They feel that they will be giving up a very effective stress management technique. But once they give up smoking for a short period of time, they will become calmer, even under stress, than when they were smokers.
(from Joel's original essay above)
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August 31st, 2006, 7:02 pm #26

For Marcus:

Only one reason people smoke tobacco - to acquire nicotine and keep their balance of 'nicotine normal'.

Only one rule to break free of that Cycle of Dependency, No Nicotine Today.

Only one way to stay in control, on the free side of the bars of the prison of active nictoine addiction - Never Take Another Puff.

JoeJ - Free, Day 597
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

September 13th, 2006, 6:34 pm #27

It is important for the smoker considering quitting to understand these concepts because once they truly understand why they smoke they will be able to more fully appreciate how much more simple their life will become as an ex-smoker.

Once the smoker stops, nicotine will begin to leave their body and within two weeks all the nicotine will be gone. Once the nicotine is totally out of the body, all withdrawal will cease. No longer will they experience drug withdrawal states whenever encountering stress, drinking, or just going too long without smoking. In short, they will soon realize that all the benefits they thought they derived from smoking were false effects. They did not need to smoke to deal with stress, or to drink, socialize, or work. Everything they did as a smoker they can do as a non-smoker, and in most cases they will now do these activities more efficiently and feel better during them. (from Joel's Original article).
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FlyinFree
FlyinFree

November 6th, 2006, 10:07 pm #28

i am so grateful to be on the nicotine free side and looking at the line from this angle. I don't ever want to face this battle of addiction again, and with all this information i don;t have to.. thank you

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Todd Reese - Free and Healing for Twenty One Days, 12 Hours and 7 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 1 Day and 11 Hours, by avoiding the use of 430 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $86.10.
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JoeJFree Gold
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January 24th, 2007, 5:01 am #29

Once the smoker stops, nicotine will begin to leave their body and within two weeks all the nicotine will be gone. Once the nicotine is totally out of the body, all withdrawal will cease. No longer will they experience drug withdrawal states whenever encountering stress, drinking, or just going too long without smoking. In short, they will soon realize that all the benefits they thought they derived from smoking were false effects. They did not need to smoke to deal with stress, or to drink, socialize, or work. Everything they did as a smoker they can do as a non-smoker, and in most cases they will now do these activities more efficiently and feel better during them.

They will become a more independent people. It is a good feeling and a major accomplishment to break free from this addiction. But no matter how long they are off smoking and how confident they feel, the ex-smoker must always remember that they are a smoke-a-holic.

- Joel

It doesn't get much better than this one.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

April 18th, 2007, 12:53 am #30

Only one reason people smoke tobacco -
to acquire nicotine and keep their balance of 'nicotine normal'.
Only one rule to break free of that Cycle of Dependency,
No Nicotine Today.
Only one way to stay in control,
on the free side of the bars of the prison of active nictoine addiction -
Never Take Another Puff.
JoeJFree, Day 827 & very glad I retain the power to choose by NTAP!
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

May 22nd, 2007, 11:21 am #31

From: GrumpyOMrsS (Gold) Sent: 10/3/2004 10:27 PM
Even people taking it up today are not sufficiently warned of how addictive and how dangerous this product is. Of course they know its dangerous and they now hear it is addictive, but very few people realize just how dangerous and how addictive.

If people are asked to rank cigarette smoking dangers compared to the dangers posed by pollution, or illegal drugs, or alcohol induced illnesses, or violence in our society, or the risks of being killed by a drunk driver, or the risk of infectious diseases like pneumonia or AIDS, cigarettes may end up in the middle or maybe even at the bottom of the list. In America, more people die from smoking than people killed in ALL accidents, murders, all suicides, all infectious diseases, all diabetes, all cirrhosis and all olf the AIDS deaths all combined.

Most people don't grasp the true magnitude of the dangers. Also, must people don't realize the true grip of the addiction that nicotine exerts. Worse of all, very few people are given any real understanding of how to take control of the addiction once it has been established. The combination of all of this lack of understanding leaves people ripe from taking up smoking and totally unprepared for getting off of it when they want to quit.

Try to see smokers for who they really are. They are drug addicts who very often do not have the understanding and tools in place to break free of their addiction. You do have the understanding and hopefully at some point they may turn to you for help. When they do share with them what we have shared with you. Help them understand that you were once where they were--you didn't understand why you smoked, why you should stop, how to stop and how to stay off. But once you learned all of this you were able to quit and have proven by example that you have been able to stay off. The example you will have proven is that you have stuck with your commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

June 13th, 2007, 11:30 am #32

Any other reason offered is simply a false justification to explain the actions of an addict.
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JoeJFree Gold
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January 9th, 2008, 2:06 am #33

From Joel's original letter:

Once the smoker stops, nicotine will begin to leave their body and within two weeks all the nicotine will be gone. Once the nicotine is totally out of the body, all withdrawal will cease. No longer will they experience drug withdrawal states whenever encountering stress, drinking, or just going too long without smoking. In short, they will soon realize that all the benefits they thought they derived from smoking were false effects. They did not need to smoke to deal with stress, or to drink, socialize, or work. Everything they did as a smoker they can do as a non-smoker, and in most cases they will now do these activities more efficiently and feel better during them.

Only one reason people smoke tobacco -
to acquire nicotine and keep their balance of 'nicotine normal'.
Only one rule to break free of that Cycle of Dependency, No Nicotine Today.
Only one way to stay in control, on the free side of the bars of the prison of active nictoine addiction - Never Take Another Puff.
JoeJFree, Day 1093 & very glad I now possess the power to choose.....
by choosing to NTAP!
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JoeJFree Gold
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February 26th, 2008, 9:54 am #34

Stress has a physiological effect on the body which makes the urine acidic. Whenever the urine becomes acidic, the body excretes nicotine at an accelerated rate. Thus, when a smoker encounters a stressful situation he loses nicotine and goes into drug withdrawal. Most smokers feel that when they are nervous or upset cigarettes help calm them down. The calming effect, however, is not relief from the emotional strain of the situation, but actually the effect of replenishing the nicotine supply and ending the withdrawal. It is easy to understand why the smoker without this basic knowledge of stress and its nicotine effect is afraid to give up smoking. They feel that they will be giving up a very effective stress management technique. But once they give up smoking for a short period of time, they will become calmer, even under stress, than when they were smokers. (from Joel's original essay above)
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JoeJFree Gold
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March 31st, 2008, 9:42 pm #35

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Joel
Joel

July 6th, 2008, 6:17 am #36

Being a smoke-a-holic means that as long as they don't take a single drag off a cigarette, cigar or pipe, or chew tobacco, or inject it into their bloodstream with a syringe, they will never again become hooked on nicotine. If, on the other hand, they do make the tragic mistake of experimenting with any nicotine product, they will reinforce their addiction. This will result either in returning to their old level of consumption or experiencing a full fledged withdrawal process. Neither situation is fun to go through.

So, once off of smoking, the ex-smoker must always remember just who and what they are - a smoke-a-holic for the rest of their life. Remembering this, you can remain truly independent from nicotine by following one simple practice - Never Take Another Puff!
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

September 15th, 2008, 8:32 pm #37

Only one reason people smoke tobacco -
to acquire nicotine and keep their balance of 'nicotine normal'.
Only one rule to break free of that Cycle of Dependency,
No Nicotine Today.
Only one way to stay in control,
on the free side of the bars of the prison of active nictoine addiction -
Never Take Another Puff.
JoeJFree, Day 1343 & very glad I retain the power to choose by NTAP!
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FreedomNicotine
FreedomNicotine

May 27th, 2010, 12:19 pm #38


Link to video clip of smoking 2 year old

Smoking Baby Ardi Rizal
Has 40-a-Day Habit Published : Thursday, 27 May 2010, 7:17 AM EDT

(myFOXDetroit.com Staff Reports) - He may be still in diapers, but he enjoys pulling a deep drag on a cigarette. London's Daily Mail reports Ardi Rizal, a 2-year-old Indonesian toddler, has a 40-a-day smoking habit.

The paper quotes the boy's mother as saying, "He's totally addicted. If he doesn't get cigarettes, he gets angry and screams and batters his head against the wall. He tells me he feels dizzy and sick.'

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TM and (c) 2009 Fox Television Stations, Inc.

Daily Mail version of story:

Meet the two-year-old boy who
throws a tantrum when his
parents refuse him a cigarette

This is the two-year-old Indonesian boy who throws a tantrum when his parents refuse him a cigarette.

Ardi Rizal was given his first cigarette by his father when he was just 18-months-old.


The smoking toddler was witnessed by a reporter who recently visited his home in the fishing village of Musi Banyuasin, in Indonesia's South Sumatra province.

Two-year-old Ardi Rizal, who was given his first cigarette when he was 18-months-old, throws a tantrum when his parents refuse him a cigarette

'I'm not worried about his health, he looks healthy,' shrugged the boy's father Mohammad Rizal.


'He cries and throws tantrums when we don't let him smoke. He's addicted.'


Ardi's youth is the extreme of a disturbing trend. Data from the Central Statistics Agency showed 25 per cent of Indonesian children aged three to 15 have tried cigarettes, with 3.2 per cent of those active smokers.

The percentage of five to nine year olds lighting up increased from 0.4 per cent in 2001 to 2.8 per cent in 2004, the agency reported.

A video of a four-year-old Indonesian boy blowing smoke rings appeared briefly on YouTube in March, prompting outrage before it was removed from the site.

Child advocates are speaking out about the health damage to children from second-hand smoke, and the growing pressure on them to smoke in a country where one-third of the population uses tobacco and single cigarettes can be bought for a few cents.

Seto Mulyadi, chairman of Indonesia's child protection commission, blames the increase on aggressive advertising and parents who are smokers.

'A law to protect children and passive smokers should be introduced immediately in this country,' he said.

A health law passed in 2009 formally recognizes that smoking is addictive, and an anti-smoking coalition is pushing for tighter restrictions on smoking in public places, advertising bans and bigger health warnings on cigarette packages.

But a bill on tobacco control has been stalled because of opposition from the tobacco industry.

The bill would ban cigarette advertising and sponsorship, prohibit smoking in public, and add graphic images to packaging.


Benny Wahyudi, a senior official at the Industry Ministry, said the government had initiated a plan to try to limit the number of smokers, including dropping production to 240 billion cigarettes this year, from 245 billion in 2009.

'The government is aware of the impact of smoking on health and has taken efforts, including lowering cigarette production, increasing its tax and limiting smoking areas,' he said.

Mr Mulyadi said a ban on advertising is key to putting the brakes on child and teen smoking.


'If cigarette advertising is not banned, there will be more kids whose lives are threatened because of smoking,' he said.

Ubiquitous advertising hit a bump last month when a cigarette company was forced to withdraw its sponsorship of pop star Kelly Clarkson's concert following protests from fans and anti-tobacco groups.

However, imposing a non-smoking message will be difficult in Indonesia, the world's third-largest tobacco consumer.

Tubagus Haryo Karbyanto, a member of the National Commission of Tobacco Control, said Indonesia must also address the social conditions that lead to smoking, such as family influence and peer pressure.

'The promotion of health has to be integrated down to the smallest units in our society, from public health centres and local health care centres to the family,' he was quoted as saying by the Jakarta Globe on Friday.

Health Minister Endang Sedyaningsih conceded turning young people off smoking will be difficult in a country where it is perceived as positive because cigarette companies sponsor everything from scholarships to sporting events.
'This is the challenge we face in protecting youth from the dangers of smoking,' she said in a statement on the ministry's website.

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May 27th, 2010, 3:25 pm #40

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