Joel
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September 3rd, 2003, 9:10 pm #21

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Joel
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September 4th, 2003, 1:12 am #22

I saw three different people use the term "**** Week" in the past 24 hours. I think this post needs to be near the top today.

The week a person relapses may be hellish for some but the kinds of problems smoking can cause do not just last seven days. Smoking causes problems that get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker in chronic withdrawal as well as mimimizing the risks of getting diseases and conditions that can make your life really **** like is as simple as knowing not just for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel
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Carl in Georgia
Carl in Georgia

September 4th, 2003, 4:02 am #23

I sheepishly note that in my very first post I referred to "**** Week'! Please accept my apologies for the faux pas. After doing some reading up here, I fully concur that the term "Glory Week" is much more apt and in keeping with Freedom's positive perspective.

It seems to me that self pity in the recovery process is counterproductive and the term "**** Week", when used to describe the nicotine withdrawal experience, is not only implicitly self pitying, but hyperbolic and insentive to those who are truly living through hellish experiences. Nicotine withdrawal may be a very uncomfortable experience but it is certainly not life threatening or even catacylsmic. I agree with Joel and others that there are too many experiences out there that are truly hellish to use this term to describe our first week's ( or 72 hours') discomfort.

Still learning after all these years...

Carl
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Alleen Golden
Alleen Golden

September 4th, 2003, 4:46 am #24

Hi All:

I just joined about four days ago and have seen the term "**** Week" quite a bit as well as Glory Week. I agree with Joel on this.

Glory Week has a much better taste than **** Week. So, as long as I am here and posting, I think I will refer to this as Glory Week as well. It is only 7 days but worth celebrating afterall.

I think lots of people really wonder if they will get through the first 7 days at all. But getting through them gives us the courage to keep going.

Thank you Joel for your wonderful insights and for keeping us all in line "often"

Alleen
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yellabelly66
yellabelly66

September 11th, 2003, 5:51 pm #25

Good morning everyone, from the Irish YB!!

Day 6, so still in Glory Week, and believe me, after the first few days of very weird symptoms it truly has been a glorious week, of realisation, education and recovery.

I am going on holiday to one of the Greek Islands on saturday. Smoking was always a big thing for me on previous holidays, but this time I am never going to take another puff, so I am not worried. I am not complacent either, and I will be on my guard, as my husband smokes, but I will not smoke. My mind set is so strong that I am very sure in my quit.

I will be bringing printouts of pages from freedom, to reinforce my quit if needed.
Otherwise I am going to relax and have my first non smoker holiday!!!
Well since I was 17 (20 years ago!!
Imagine the damage I done to myself??) anyway.

Any advice from my colleagues here will also be gratefully accepted!!!

YB. Day 6!!! Yippeeeeee!!
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Joel
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September 11th, 2003, 7:59 pm #26

Hello Duffo:

As long as you are bringing reading material, why not print out the full e-book at www.WhyQuit.com/joel/ntap.pdf. It will give you lots to read. From what I hear from clinic graduates and reports we have seen here at Freedom, Greece is one country where smoking is quite pervasive. I am going to bring up a few posts on how to really watch people smoke, and using the act of watching them an a tool to keep your quit as opposed to having it threaten your quit. We also have a few strings from people who have traveled early on in their quits to some very smoky places. I'll try to find them and pop them up also. Just know that the Law of addiction is an international law, that to stay free in Greece or any other country is as simple as always remembering to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
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September 29th, 2003, 7:37 pm #28

I saw the term "**** Week" up again from an old post. I just like to bring this one up when old posts pop up like this to make it clear that that the term is often quite misleading. The week a person took up smoking, or the week a person relapses, or the week a person finds out he or she has a smoking induced illness, or the week a person takes his or her last breath because smoking takes its final toll has a much more "hellish" connotation than the week a person quits smoking. We just like to keep things in perspective here.
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Coolmare2green
Coolmare2green

October 9th, 2003, 5:35 am #29

Hi all-
i've just passed the "glory week" mark myself, and couldn't agree with you more on what constitutes a "**** week"----for me my past life as a closet smoker was one "**** week" after another.this past week for me has been tough at times, but has also been for me the beginning of regaining my self-respect,and a journey toward healing myself--body and soul.....and that actually feels really worth it.
Mary
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HeyItsAngelica
HeyItsAngelica

October 21st, 2003, 1:28 am #30

whoa, i thought it only lasted 72 hours. i am on day 8 almost to day 9. and i still feel like i have a case of the nastys. mine is especially bad, because i am a recovering alcoholic and a person with bipolar (mood swings). i go into my purse reaching for smokes that arent there anymore, then i remember i am a non smoker. i am grateful that i quit. i quit for myself. i had no business smoking in the first place, as i have asthma. now, my mother in law says i have to help her, i said, no, you must do this yourself. was i right in that statement? she couldnt help me stop drinking, i cannot do the same for smoking for her.
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Joel
Joel

December 24th, 2003, 11:11 pm #31

In lieu of today's parade and for the benefit of people just looking in and considering quitting, I thought I had better make it clear that not everyone goes through three hellish days when they quit. While the peak period of potential physical withdrawal is 72 hours, some people find the first day the roughest, some people find the second day the roughest, some the third and some people quit with relative ease having no major physical reactions. Read the post Every quit is different for further discussion on this issue. Quitting might be easy or might be hard but either way it possible and will be worth the effort as long as you always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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davez GOLD
davez GOLD

July 10th, 2004, 1:27 am #32


Just thought that all of the newbies may be wondering about "glory week"
I know I was.

davez

I have quit smoking for Two weeks, six days, 23 hours, 55 minutes and 23 seconds. I have not smoked 419 nasty cigarettes. I have saved $41.99 by not buying those stupid little death sticks. I have added 1 day, 10 hours, 55 minutes to my precious life. I am so proud of myself for being a quitter!!
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Joanne Gold
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August 11th, 2004, 4:49 am #33

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August 28th, 2004, 6:17 am #34

One week that the term "**** Week" is a more accurate description surrounding smoking is the week that a person finds out they have lung cancer, or ends up in a hospital after a heart attack, or ends up partially paralyzed or unable to speak from a stroke, or the day a person starts on oxygen, or the day a person ends up on a burn ward from a fire they started with their own cigarette, or the day a person dies suddenly or unexpectedly from a smoking induced incident.

Even in these cases though the term "**** Week" is an inaccurate assessment of time. These people may end up going though weeks or months of what they consider hellish experiences and still sometimes end up losing the battle to save their lives. In the case of sudden death, "**** Week" doesn't apply either, at least not for the deceased individual himself or herself but likely for the family and friends left behind. The suffering and sadness of these family members and friends will not likely end on day eight either, they will be facing the sadness of the smokers premature loss for a long time to come.

I guess the closest a week may be considered "**** Week" in regards to smoking is the week a person relapses. That is the week they have to admit failure to everyone they know, unless they start their new lives living the lie of being closet smokers, which creates it own problems that last a whole lot longer than a week. This is the week that they start to smell like **** again, and possibly start to experience perceivable detrimental effects again. This is the week that they start paying exorbitant prices for a product that is attacking their heart, lungs, self-respect, self-esteem, start to make them question their own intelligence or their own common sense, and affect the ways other people view them. In the case of the closet smokers who eventually gets caught, it also threatens their basic honesty and integrity for they are living a lie now and are always afraid of being exposed.

The week a person relapses may be hellish but the problems posed by smoking will not end in seven days for them either, but rather get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker is as simple as knowing not for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel
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OBob Gold
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January 5th, 2005, 6:45 am #35

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September 10th, 2005, 12:39 am #36

One week that the term "**** Week" is a more accurate description surrounding smoking is the week that a person finds out they have lung cancer, or ends up in a hospital after a heart attack, or ends up partially paralyzed or unable to speak from a stroke, or the day a person starts on oxygen, or the day a person ends up on a burn ward from a fire they started with their own cigarette, or the day a person dies suddenly or unexpectedly from a smoking induced incident.

Even in these cases though the term "**** Week" is an inaccurate assessment of time. These people may end up going though weeks or months of what they consider hellish experiences and still sometimes end up losing the battle to save their lives. In the case of sudden death, "**** Week" doesn't apply either, at least not for the deceased individual himself or herself but likely for the family and friends left behind. The suffering and sadness of these family members and friends will not likely end on day eight either, they will be facing the sadness of the smokers premature loss for a long time to come.

I guess the closest a week may be considered "**** Week" in regards to smoking is the week a person relapses. That is the week they have to admit failure to everyone they know, unless they start their new lives living the lie of being closet smokers, which creates it own problems that last a whole lot longer than a week. This is the week that they start to smell like **** again, and possibly start to experience perceivable detrimental effects again. This is the week that they start paying exorbitant prices for a product that is attacking their heart, lungs, self-respect, self-esteem, start to make them question their own intelligence or their own common sense, and affect the ways other people view them. In the case of the closet smokers who eventually gets caught, it also threatens their basic honesty and integrity for they are living a lie now and are always afraid of being exposed.

The week a person relapses may be hellish but the problems posed by smoking will not end in seven days for them either, but rather get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker is as simple as knowing not for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel
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Kristen Goldx3
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January 18th, 2006, 10:37 pm #37

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nancy999
nancy999

March 2nd, 2006, 10:01 pm #38

HOORAY! I couldn't agree more. This is NOT **** week! It is in fact GLORY WEEK. If your quit is a week long, could you be any prouder of yourself? I have more self confidence and sense of accomplishement than I've ever had (except birthing twins LOL). What a POSITIVE thing!! Wooo-Hooo for us!

I'm changing my name...I'll now be known as Nancy Ntap!
Five FUN days, 11 hours, 23 minutes and 46 seconds. 164 cigarettes not smoked, saving $39.74. Life saved: 13 hours, 40 minutes.
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katricie
katricie

May 19th, 2006, 3:46 am #39

Once again reading has changed my mind to around to think and look at something differently for what it really is thanks again for putting things in perspective.
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Mitzi499
Mitzi499

May 19th, 2006, 4:22 am #40

Sorry for using this expression in one of my recent posts. I don't think I used it any others and certainly take on board what you are saying. I appreciate entirely that the first week of a quit may very well not be "**** week" for many people, and certainly they should not anticipate that it will be. The context in which I used it was to try to suggest that given the strength demonstrated in getting through the first 72 hours, and managing to continue with a difficult week, there should be no giving up.

Thank you for this - another bit of education for me!

Maria - 1 month quit and not quite believing it
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Joel
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October 3rd, 2006, 12:27 am #41

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October 9th, 2006, 6:54 am #42

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January 3rd, 2007, 8:46 pm #43

I am actually happy to say that we don't have to bring this one up much any more. I think that most of our new and old members alike realize that the term "**** week" is really an overly negative description for a week with such significant importance and lifetime benefits as the week a person finally successfully breaks free from the grip of an active nicotine addiction. I do suspect that there are some readers here though from other sites who do see this term a lot. This thread puts the term into perspective.
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January 8th, 2007, 8:11 pm #44

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July 12th, 2007, 8:52 am #45

I saw where a member used the term "**** Week" in a post.

From above:
One week that the term "**** Week" is a more accurate description surrounding smoking is the week that a person finds out they have lung cancer, or ends up in a hospital after a heart attack, or ends up partially paralyzed or unable to speak from a stroke, or the day a person starts on oxygen, or the day a person ends up on a burn ward from a fire they started with their own cigarette, or the day a person dies suddenly or unexpectedly from a smoking induced incident.

Even in these cases though the term "**** Week" is an inaccurate assessment of time. These people may end up going though weeks or months of what they consider hellish experiences and still sometimes end up losing the battle to save their lives. In the case of sudden death, "**** Week" doesn't apply either, at least not for the deceased individual himself or herself but likely for the family and friends left behind. The suffering and sadness of these family members and friends will not likely end on day eight either, they will be facing the sadness of the smokers premature loss for a long time to come.

I guess the closest a week may be considered "**** Week" in regards to smoking is the week a person relapses. That is the week they have to admit failure to everyone they know, unless they start their new lives living the lie of being closet smokers, which creates it own problems that last a whole lot longer than a week. This is the week that they start to smell like **** again, and possibly start to experience perceivable detrimental effects again. This is the week that they start paying exorbitant prices for a product that is attacking their heart, lungs, self-respect, self-esteem, start to make them question their own intelligence or their own common sense, and affect the ways other people view them. In the case of the closet smokers who eventually gets caught, it also threatens their basic honesty and integrity for they are living a lie now and are always afraid of being exposed.

The week a person relapses may be hellish but the problems posed by smoking will not end in seven days for them either, but rather get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker is as simple as knowing not for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel

Also from above:

I am actually happy to say that we don't have to bring this one up much any more. I think that most of our new and old members alike realize that the term "**** week" is really an overly negative description for a week with such significant importance and lifetime benefits as the week a person finally successfully breaks free from the grip of an active nicotine addiction. I do suspect that there are some readers here though from other sites who do see this term a lot. This thread puts the term into perspective.
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