**** Week?

Toast (GOLD )
Toast (GOLD )

June 26th, 2002, 1:19 am #11

Hello All,

All good points!

The concept of "****/Glory Week" is one that never moved me much in any direction, but I have certainly used the term because it was already in use and for lack of another way to mark a week nicotine-free.

If we're voting, I'd vote against a color for the first week ... something about having to be patient and earn that GREEN!

Rather, how about another name that doesn't have an association yet? Maybe "Discovery Week" or "Orientation Week" or "Miracle Week" or something because is really is a week of new discoveries, new achievements. Not only, is a new quitter learning about themselves, if they are members, they are learning their way around the boards.

Whatever the decision, there's no denying that first week free from smoking is a week to celebrate! As I am constantly reminded, struggling is optional.

Melissa
the Gold Club
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improud (golder)
improud (golder)

June 26th, 2002, 4:09 am #12

Very good post Joel. **** week does sound alittle intimidating like oh no what is going to happen to me and will I make it!!!! I didn't pay too much attention to it like Linda I was just so thrilled that I made it through 72 hours and then one week. I didn't join Freedon until I was past one week and when I kept reading about **** week I thought Gosh I didn't go through **** I was in **** when I was smoking and coughing my head off every morning afternoon evening and when I walked up steps Look out I thought I was going to pass out. Quitting was not **** Smoking is and I think that since every ones quit is theirs alone we can't really put a handle on what that first week will be like. To each his own. The education is the key. Cathy GOLD
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Rickgoldx5
Rickgoldx5

June 26th, 2002, 4:41 am #13

maybe "Breakout Week?"
just thinking out loud.
I have chosen not to smoke for 1 Month 3 Weeks 4 Hours 38 Minutes 9 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 3288. Money saved: $491.58.
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richard This is It GOLD
richard This is It GOLD

June 26th, 2002, 4:49 am #14

Genesis? Intern? Foundation? Fresh(person)? Jubilee? Banner?

-richard
(just my tuppenceworth, .028 Euro worth - and gettin ready for vacation !!!)
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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

June 26th, 2002, 5:02 am #15

Good post, Joel! When I first quit smoking....a "week" was not even entertained in my mind...the only thing that mattered was the "day". My first week was pretty tough but so were many other moments later....but as Joel has pointed out...nothing is as tough as a relapse or having to repeat constant detox. I literally quit smoking "one day at a time" and that is all this nicotine addicted lady could handle....be assured...that same concept stayed with me much longer than a week. Each day that passed where I remained free and in control was a huge victory...reaching a week didn't matter...it was a daily resolve until things became comfortable. The process is amazing and happens at different stages for each of us...the sooner we start facing the challenges and living out the associations we have to smoking...the faster we learn how doable quitting really is. We each have learned that in order to work through this process...all we have to do is never take another puff.

JUST FOR TODAY....NOT ONE PUFF..NO MATTER WHAT

So anyway, in those early days we should be concentrating on getting through each new day without taking that first puff....and nothing more.

One long day for this girl....three and a half years free and grateful for every minute.

Joanne : )
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Joel
Joel

September 3rd, 2002, 9:31 am #16

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Changingmyname(SILVER )
Changingmyname(SILVER )

September 3rd, 2002, 10:25 am #17

Hmmm, good points, although I must admit I'm pretty lenient with language, as you can pretty much apply any meaning to any phrase if you put the words in the right order...I just take what I need from any given term.

So, with no opinion one way or the other about the term Glory Week (or **** week, for that matter), I'm going to offer my thoughts anyway just to keep me out of mischief.

Having just finished Glory Week, I can tell you it was hardly glorious although it had its moments. I've spent this week embracing my urges to smoke, allowing my mind to inhale and exhale the cigs, and then smiling as I push the thought away and exercise my healing lungs by taking yet another expanded breath. I've spent this week learning, and although this week was highly cerebral for me in terms of education and using mind over body, it was really a battle with my physical dependance on nicotine and my body's memory of it. I told myself that I could do it a thousand times but sometimes nothing worked but to ride out the cravings and urges, like a ship in a storm. For that reason I think Motivation Week would be an adequate name...even though, as I said, I don't really have much of an opinion . My non-opinion also says that two weeks should be the milestone, as I'm having a tougher time on day nine than I did on day 4, probably because my life is slowly changing in realization to being a non-smoker.

Just my non-thoughts for today!
Theresa, 9 days.
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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

November 14th, 2002, 1:25 pm #18

Good post, Joel! When I first quit smoking....a "week" was not even entertained in my mind...the only thing that mattered was the "day". My first week was pretty tough but so were many other moments later....but as Joel has pointed out...nothing is as tough as a relapse or having to repeat constant detox. I literally quit smoking "one day at a time" and that is all this nicotine addicted lady could handle....be assured...that same concept stayed with me much longer than a week. Each day that passed where I remained free and in control was a huge victory...reaching a week didn't matter...it was a daily resolve until things became comfortable. The process is amazing and happens at different stages for each of us...the sooner we start facing the challenges and living out the associations we have to smoking...the faster we learn how doable quitting really is. We each have learned that in order to work through this process...all we have to do is never take another puff.

JUST FOR TODAY....NOT ONE PUFF..NO MATTER WHAT

So anyway, in those early days we should be concentrating on getting through each new day without taking that first puff....and nothing more.

One long day for this girl....three and a half years free and grateful for every minute.

Joanne : )
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Joel
Joel

January 26th, 2003, 7:17 am #19

I saw where one member just used the term that she had gone through quite a hellish week since she had quit smoking. I didn't want people to confuse this with the term "**** week." I always want people reading here to recognize that smoking has the full potential of causing much more pain and suffering and much more grief spread over a lifetime than any problems quitting may cause even in the first few days of a quit. Life will be better in the short-term and the long term as long as you always stay committed to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

June 21st, 2003, 7:44 pm #20

I saw where a new member wrote, "when I joined a few days ago, someone mentioned that when the first week was over, it's called Glory Week? (see Glory Week?)Actually this was a term coined by John I think to balance the term "**** Week" which is used quite pervasively on the Internet. As in the case of the term "**** Week," "Glory Week" is not really said much out there in the real world. Bring it up in a conversation of ex-smokers who had no connection with the Internet and they will likely stare at you and not know what you are talking about. I have not heard either of these terms said by any person who I have talked to in any of the live clinics or in any of the live seminars I have conducted in the past 30 years, meaning after having talked to close to a 100,000 people about smoking, I don't think I have heard either of these terms spontaneously used once. I do think I have a vague memory where a member of Freedom said it in one of my live groups, although I am not sure of that.
I felt that we really needed to really clarify the term "**** Week" because the connotations that are associated with that term can clearly be counter-productive and are just plain wrong when looking at quitting in the grand scheme of things. "Glory Week" is a lot more accurate of a descriptive term. I just like to think of the first week though as the first seven days of what a person who truly understands the issues at hand is going to want to be thousands and thousands of days where they will eventually look back and still be able to say that they are still thrilled that they have stuck with their commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

September 3rd, 2003, 9:10 pm #21

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Joel
Joel

September 4th, 2003, 1:12 am #22

I saw three different people use the term "**** Week" in the past 24 hours. I think this post needs to be near the top today.

The week a person relapses may be hellish for some but the kinds of problems smoking can cause do not just last seven days. Smoking causes problems that get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker in chronic withdrawal as well as mimimizing the risks of getting diseases and conditions that can make your life really **** like is as simple as knowing not just for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel
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Carl in Georgia
Carl in Georgia

September 4th, 2003, 4:02 am #23

I sheepishly note that in my very first post I referred to "**** Week'! Please accept my apologies for the faux pas. After doing some reading up here, I fully concur that the term "Glory Week" is much more apt and in keeping with Freedom's positive perspective.

It seems to me that self pity in the recovery process is counterproductive and the term "**** Week", when used to describe the nicotine withdrawal experience, is not only implicitly self pitying, but hyperbolic and insentive to those who are truly living through hellish experiences. Nicotine withdrawal may be a very uncomfortable experience but it is certainly not life threatening or even catacylsmic. I agree with Joel and others that there are too many experiences out there that are truly hellish to use this term to describe our first week's ( or 72 hours') discomfort.

Still learning after all these years...

Carl
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Alleen Golden
Alleen Golden

September 4th, 2003, 4:46 am #24

Hi All:

I just joined about four days ago and have seen the term "**** Week" quite a bit as well as Glory Week. I agree with Joel on this.

Glory Week has a much better taste than **** Week. So, as long as I am here and posting, I think I will refer to this as Glory Week as well. It is only 7 days but worth celebrating afterall.

I think lots of people really wonder if they will get through the first 7 days at all. But getting through them gives us the courage to keep going.

Thank you Joel for your wonderful insights and for keeping us all in line "often"

Alleen
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yellabelly66
yellabelly66

September 11th, 2003, 5:51 pm #25

Good morning everyone, from the Irish YB!!

Day 6, so still in Glory Week, and believe me, after the first few days of very weird symptoms it truly has been a glorious week, of realisation, education and recovery.

I am going on holiday to one of the Greek Islands on saturday. Smoking was always a big thing for me on previous holidays, but this time I am never going to take another puff, so I am not worried. I am not complacent either, and I will be on my guard, as my husband smokes, but I will not smoke. My mind set is so strong that I am very sure in my quit.

I will be bringing printouts of pages from freedom, to reinforce my quit if needed.
Otherwise I am going to relax and have my first non smoker holiday!!!
Well since I was 17 (20 years ago!!
Imagine the damage I done to myself??) anyway.

Any advice from my colleagues here will also be gratefully accepted!!!

YB. Day 6!!! Yippeeeeee!!
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Joel
Joel

September 11th, 2003, 7:59 pm #26

Hello Duffo:

As long as you are bringing reading material, why not print out the full e-book at www.WhyQuit.com/joel/ntap.pdf. It will give you lots to read. From what I hear from clinic graduates and reports we have seen here at Freedom, Greece is one country where smoking is quite pervasive. I am going to bring up a few posts on how to really watch people smoke, and using the act of watching them an a tool to keep your quit as opposed to having it threaten your quit. We also have a few strings from people who have traveled early on in their quits to some very smoky places. I'll try to find them and pop them up also. Just know that the Law of addiction is an international law, that to stay free in Greece or any other country is as simple as always remembering to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

September 29th, 2003, 7:37 pm #28

I saw the term "**** Week" up again from an old post. I just like to bring this one up when old posts pop up like this to make it clear that that the term is often quite misleading. The week a person took up smoking, or the week a person relapses, or the week a person finds out he or she has a smoking induced illness, or the week a person takes his or her last breath because smoking takes its final toll has a much more "hellish" connotation than the week a person quits smoking. We just like to keep things in perspective here.
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Coolmare2green
Coolmare2green

October 9th, 2003, 5:35 am #29

Hi all-
i've just passed the "glory week" mark myself, and couldn't agree with you more on what constitutes a "**** week"----for me my past life as a closet smoker was one "**** week" after another.this past week for me has been tough at times, but has also been for me the beginning of regaining my self-respect,and a journey toward healing myself--body and soul.....and that actually feels really worth it.
Mary
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HeyItsAngelica
HeyItsAngelica

October 21st, 2003, 1:28 am #30

whoa, i thought it only lasted 72 hours. i am on day 8 almost to day 9. and i still feel like i have a case of the nastys. mine is especially bad, because i am a recovering alcoholic and a person with bipolar (mood swings). i go into my purse reaching for smokes that arent there anymore, then i remember i am a non smoker. i am grateful that i quit. i quit for myself. i had no business smoking in the first place, as i have asthma. now, my mother in law says i have to help her, i said, no, you must do this yourself. was i right in that statement? she couldnt help me stop drinking, i cannot do the same for smoking for her.
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Joel
Joel

December 24th, 2003, 11:11 pm #31

In lieu of today's parade and for the benefit of people just looking in and considering quitting, I thought I had better make it clear that not everyone goes through three hellish days when they quit. While the peak period of potential physical withdrawal is 72 hours, some people find the first day the roughest, some people find the second day the roughest, some the third and some people quit with relative ease having no major physical reactions. Read the post Every quit is different for further discussion on this issue. Quitting might be easy or might be hard but either way it possible and will be worth the effort as long as you always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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davez GOLD
davez GOLD

July 10th, 2004, 1:27 am #32


Just thought that all of the newbies may be wondering about "glory week"
I know I was.

davez

I have quit smoking for Two weeks, six days, 23 hours, 55 minutes and 23 seconds. I have not smoked 419 nasty cigarettes. I have saved $41.99 by not buying those stupid little death sticks. I have added 1 day, 10 hours, 55 minutes to my precious life. I am so proud of myself for being a quitter!!
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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

August 11th, 2004, 4:49 am #33

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Joel
Joel

August 28th, 2004, 6:17 am #34

One week that the term "**** Week" is a more accurate description surrounding smoking is the week that a person finds out they have lung cancer, or ends up in a hospital after a heart attack, or ends up partially paralyzed or unable to speak from a stroke, or the day a person starts on oxygen, or the day a person ends up on a burn ward from a fire they started with their own cigarette, or the day a person dies suddenly or unexpectedly from a smoking induced incident.

Even in these cases though the term "**** Week" is an inaccurate assessment of time. These people may end up going though weeks or months of what they consider hellish experiences and still sometimes end up losing the battle to save their lives. In the case of sudden death, "**** Week" doesn't apply either, at least not for the deceased individual himself or herself but likely for the family and friends left behind. The suffering and sadness of these family members and friends will not likely end on day eight either, they will be facing the sadness of the smokers premature loss for a long time to come.

I guess the closest a week may be considered "**** Week" in regards to smoking is the week a person relapses. That is the week they have to admit failure to everyone they know, unless they start their new lives living the lie of being closet smokers, which creates it own problems that last a whole lot longer than a week. This is the week that they start to smell like **** again, and possibly start to experience perceivable detrimental effects again. This is the week that they start paying exorbitant prices for a product that is attacking their heart, lungs, self-respect, self-esteem, start to make them question their own intelligence or their own common sense, and affect the ways other people view them. In the case of the closet smokers who eventually gets caught, it also threatens their basic honesty and integrity for they are living a lie now and are always afraid of being exposed.

The week a person relapses may be hellish but the problems posed by smoking will not end in seven days for them either, but rather get perpetually worse as the days, months and years pass while maintaining the active addiction to nicotine. To end the hellish experience of being a smoker is as simple as knowing not for seven days, but for the rest of your life to never take another puff!.

Joel
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OBob Gold
OBob Gold

January 5th, 2005, 6:45 am #35

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