Breaking Links to Our Crave Generator

John (Gold)

July 27th, 2000, 8:50 pm#1

I've now twice read posts that assert that it takes 6 times of encountering a particular time, event, location or emotion during which we used to smoke, before the subconscious mind breaks the link between that particular set of smoking memories and our mind's crave generator. If this information is the result of some study, we'd all like to see it as it just isn't so. The vast majority of our triggers are disconnected by our subconscious mind after just one encounter with the exact same circumstances. It may be that the particular triggering memory looks much like a previous trigger, but if you keep a trigger log and look very closely, you'll often see the difference. Joel teaches that at MOST a couple of encounters will break even the strongest link. Dr. Michael Murphy in his book "The Power of the Subconscious Mind" teaches that it only takes ONCE, but that we have difficulty seeing the subtle differences between triggering events. Dr. Murphy, who has spent his life exploring the workings of the subconscious, says that our subconscious is incapable of reasoning, thinking or analyzing a situation, it only reacts to a lifetime of input.

How many times does it take for a good hypnotist to re-condition the mind to do what seems unlikely, impossible or unbelievable to the eye? Most of us have seen it with our very own eyes at Comedy Clubs or even with prior attempts at quitting, where it worked for a couple of days. Sure, the conditioning can be overcome by the vastness of our smoking memory banks, but I've seen some folks do some pretty stupid things on the stage when the hypnotist only gave the suggestion a single time. He didn't have to repeat himself over and over again. Once a link is broken, each time the same circumstances are encountered without generating a crave only reinforce the positive re-conditioning that has occurred.

That's one of the reasons I'm always harping on feeding our minds positive thoughts and avoiding defeatist negative thinking like fear and dread associated with quitting (STARTING) or the next crave. It just goes against the grain and only makes the challenge far more difficult than need be. We are what we think. Tell yourself this is hard and it will be. Tell yourself the healing is glorious and it will be. Fear your craves and they will each be nightmares. Believe that you are more powerful than they are and you will be. Know with every fiber of your being that there is no force or circumstances on planet earth (including the death or illness of a friend or loved one) that can ever cause you to put slow death to your lips again, and you won't! We are what we think!

For those still experiencing craves, keep a crave long and try to record as accurately as possible the exact circumstances that brought on the crave. Share your findings as the results will be astonishing. As you go through your day today, stop and notice all of the times that you DIDN'T experience a crave in situations where you used to always smoke. Now that is true reconditioning! That is worth celebrating!

Even with Pavlov's salivating dogs the reconditioning took only a couple of tries and the conditioning was associated with the most powerful memories and motivators of any dog - FOOD! Pavlov noticed that each time a dog saw food (the trigger) before actually eating, that the dog began to salivate (crave). Pavlov wanted to see if he could change the triggering event so he began ringing a bell at the same time food was shown to the dog, and then gradually increased the time between when the bell was rang and when the food was produced. Soon he had the dogs salivating (craving) upon just hearing the bell (new trigger). But, it only took a few times of the dog not seeing or receiving food after hearing the bell before it stopped salivating. The mind of a smoker is far more refined than a dogs and the subconscious breaks smoking memory crave trigger links much quicker.

Once a trigger link is broken between a particular set of smoking memories and our mind's crave generator, the risk of re-establishing the link always remains as our smoking memories, like any other memories, are not discarded. It only takes one puff or one cigarette to re-connect a particular link. If it's to one of our more vivid set of smoking memories, like eating or stress, full relapse can be almost immediate. If it's a less significant set of smoking memories (the food of habit), relapse will be more gradual, but that particular link has been re-connected and will soon be encountered again.

I've got a study here in front of me that finds that about 95% of those who smoke just one cigarette will experience full relapse (19 out of 20). Do you feel lucky? Joel tells us that when we feel the urge to bum a cigarette after quitting, don't bum just one, instead ask the person for their entire pack or better yet their entire carton, as you're not really asking for just one, but the return of your entire addiction in all its power and with all its destructive force - the nicotine addict back to square one.

Enjoy defeating and reconditioning each trigger as with the passing of each you're one step closer to glory! The quicker we recondition each of them, the faster our healing. Have a wonderful day, Zep : )
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July 27th, 2000, 9:10 pm#2


great post. I think your right, if you really think about the trigger that causes a crave and compare, there is differences in each trigger, but can be very subtle. Attitude, Attitude,Attitude, constantly reinforcing positive thought through your mind, I think is the essential key. At least that is what is working for me

Have a great day, talk to ya later.



July 28th, 2000, 2:05 am#3

ZEP!!!!! Thank you!! And here I thought I was going to have to go through 5 more vacations to finally get in a good one. LOL Would it be o.k. with you if I used this in a different forum? One where they think it takes 20 times of repetition to overcome???? That's even worse huh! GJ
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Linnee (Gold)

July 28th, 2000, 6:01 am#4

I had my first post-quit department meeting and encountered a new trigger today. I used to think that I couldn't wait for the meetings to be over so I could smoke. Actually, the meetings are really boring, and that's why I couldn't wait to leave. lol

Linnee One month, one day, 15 hours, 5 minutes and 17 seconds. 1106 cigarettes not smoked, saving $166.05. Life saved: 3 days, 20 hours, 10 minutes.


July 28th, 2000, 8:11 am#5

Zep, thanks so much for that posting. I have been going through something that I hadn't experienced since the beginning of my quit, 56 days ago. The last three days I have been craving practically all day and night. Just one acute attack after another. I have been assuming that it was because these last three days have been full of stress. But, since there has been stress in my life for years now, I couldn't figure out why this three day episode has been so intense.

Because you suggested that each crave situation involved somewhat different circumstances, I was forced to look a little closer into this attack. And, guess what? You're right. This bout of stress also brings with it a very important decision that I have to make real soon. And it is the painful decision that is making me want a killerette. So....I'm going to dive in and make that decision....and do away with the craving. I'm also going to start that journal, or logbook, to keep track of the worst moments. Thanks, my friend!

Jan: 1m,3w,5d,17hrs,4min. 2552 cigarettes not smoked, $383.80 saved,and 1w,1d,20hrs,40min. of life saved!
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R b rt

August 12th, 2000, 11:57 pm#6

Zep . . . great post! The log sounds like a good idea. Before I started this [current] quit I decided to do things a little different than I did them yesterday . . . one thing I could not change easily was that smoke on the drive to work! So what I did [while i was still smoking] was have a smoke BEFORE I got in the car. I did this a couple of times and DIDN'T smoke on the drive to work. I found out that when I DID quit - the drive to work wasn't so bad!!! I did the same thing for the drive home. I wouldn't smoke til I got home. Well, that worked for me anyway . . . it might not help everyone. Now when I drive to and from work - I don't have a craving. Actually - now when I am in my car I don't have a craving no matter WHERE I am driving to and from!!! :o)

-robert- Day-12

John (Gold)

August 25th, 2000, 7:54 pm#7

Barbie, I hope you see this as it will hopefully help explain why you're still having some crave episodes at one month. It would be very unusual if all of our triggers were encountered and reconditioned within the first month. The example I give is when we smoked during or after graduations, weddings and/or funerals. Although we consciously don't recall smoking during these events, the hidden memories our subconscious minds are still there. You'll often hear former smokers who've quit for many years tell you that every now and then they find themselves still wanting a cigarette. If you quiz them a bit they'll admit that it wasn't a serious urge and that it passed within seconds or minutes, but still, it did occur and it was usually associated with an uncommon event that they'd experienced as a smoker.

I was reading a study yesterday entitled "Coping in Real Time" (1998) that was published in a journal entitled "Research in Nursing & Health," 1998, 21, pages 487-497). Here, 36 smokers were trained in how to accurately document their craves and how they coped with each. Each smoker carried a tape recorder and received fairly extensive training in how to record the date and time of each crave, to give a brief description of the urge, to describe the situation surrounding the crave (triggering event), and to document the manner in which they coped with the urge (if any). The average smoker in the study was 40.5 years old, they had smoked for 17 years on average, they smoked an average of 24 cigarettes per day, they'd averaged 4.7 prior quit attempts, 61% were married, 67% were employed outside the home, and 58% were female. The finds were very interesting.

I hope that the following findings of this study give our newbies the confidence that we are being truthful in telling them that withdrawal symptoms do peak at the 72 hour mark and then begin to gradually subside (with a bump every now and then). I also hope that it help them consider different ways to cope during their craves. Please keep one important fact in mind that is not shown by the below coping findings - many quitters used more than one coping method during a single crave. For example, chewing bubble gum while walking and trying to distract your mind from your crave by intentionally thinking about something else.

The average number of craves for the group during the first 10 days of their quit were as follows:
Day 1 5.0 craves
Day 2 5.8 craves
Day 3 6.1 craves
Day 4 3.7 carves
Day 5 3.0 craves
Day 6 2.1 craves
Day 7 4.2 carves
Day 8 2.1 craves
Day 9 1.8 craves
Day 10 1.4 craves
The day seven spike could be explained in part by the groups celebration triggers as they celebrated the end of "****/Glory Week." A similar spike occurs at One Month. The most common methods used for coping with craves included:
Behavioral Coping Exercises
15.76% Behavorial distractions to take their mind off of their crave (keeping busy).
13.28% Taking slow deep breaths - usually three.
11.46% Food or drink - the most common were candy and water.
7.55% Oral strategies - chewing gums, sucking on cinnamon sticks.
5.73% Avoiding or leaving situations where smoking was likely.
5.64% Informal exercise - used primarily as a distraction and not fitness.

Mental Coping Exercises
8.6% Self-encouragement - confidence building, it gets easier, I am a ex-smoker.
7.74% Mental distractions - thinking about something other than the crave.
6.4% Reviewing their list of their reasons for quitting.
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September 23rd, 2000, 8:43 am#8

Hello, i was very happy to read this info, since before reading it, i didn't think i had enough years left to undo, all the triggers i have for picking up a cigarette. This is very encouraging. Christiana

nomadfaerie gold

September 23rd, 2000, 9:10 am#9

Thank you, Zep! I'm printing this to keep on me like many other wonderful articles and discussions I'm finding here. I hope you don't mind a brief comment from someone who is pre-quit...

Regarding the study that concludes that it take so many encounters with a prior trigger, I wonder if they consider that in any smoking pattern (taking a break from your desk, driving to work, etc.), there are actually a number of different events that lead up to the actual smoking (encountering the elevator, disarming the car alarm), that we also subconsiously associate with the anticipated cigarette.

If their study found that it takes multiple encounters with a triggers to disengage from it, perhaps the key there is that we are not referring to a single trigger stimulus.

Just a thought...It's really good to hear you guys, I'm gearing up.


Heather R W

November 10th, 2000, 12:07 pm#10

I have to say thank you for this posting. I have printed this one out. I am experiencing the cravings so bad and have already made it 3 weeks. I will read this one over and over. Just to see this kind of information in writing, helps a lot.


January 13th, 2001, 5:17 am#11

I have to respectfully disagree with the reasoning of this post.

When you make an association between a stimulus and response, and it is repeated enough times, there becomes a physical brain thread connection between those two places...the more this action is repeated, the bigger and stronger this connection becomes-kida crazy but it's true.

A habit (any habit) is broken when that path is consciously not taken and the fleshy connection will atrophy and eventually die. And in turn, you guessed it, a new real connection is made by the new road less (or in this case more) travelled.

But for some time, when you go to a big trigger spot, say a bar, your thought pulse in the form of energy has two paths it can take...the old, well conditioned and stronger path, or the new, smaller smoke free path. Your thought simply wants to go to the old path...the new is like putting the square peg in the round hole. That's where determination comes in...sometimes we have to crush that **** peg in : P

I believe this process of atrophy can be acclerated, however, the problem is not just psychological--it's physiological too!

There are two issues with this-first is that people really need to stay away from strong trigger spots for awhile. When I read posts from people saying they are going to the bar tonight to "test themselves", I think that is dangerous and potentially foolish. ON THE OTHER HAND, if you start eliminating things from your life because of smoking, then you think "I am such a boring person now...I'd rather smoke!". I don't know what is better---immersion or temporary avoidance.

Just rambling along here....I would love your thoughts and have a great weekend!!


One week, one day, 22 minutes and 43 seconds. 176 cigarettes not smoked, saving $33.06. Life saved: 14 hours, 40 minutes.

John (Gold)

January 13th, 2001, 8:54 am#12

Great thoughts Zach! Love the big hole theory as that's how I finally learned my times tables : )) But lets do an experiment. You're in day 7 and probably still experiencing craves. Have you kept a crave log? Keep track of your next dozen or so craves and look at the triggers. If you would, come back here and share with us your triggers. I agree with everything you said in relation to learning & habits and also the intensity of craves, but as it applies to reconditioning I think you'll be hard pressed to find a "specific" crave trigger that isn't broken with a single successful encounter, including drinking, regardless of how deeply it was ingrained. I find it amazing! I look forward to hearing the results.

Oh, I always tell folks to have a drink or two at home before going to a bar as there is no sense in confronting your "being around other smokers" trigger at the same time as your "having fun" trigger and your "drinking trigger." That's a challenge! Take them one at a time!!

R b rt

April 27th, 2001, 8:48 am#13

wow ZEP ... I re-read this thread ... great advice here ...

you know I laughed when I saw my post ... day-12 !!!

seems like forever ago ... I guess I really did that and it did work !!!

8 months
25 days
thank you !!!

- robert -

John (Gold)

May 31st, 2001, 10:57 am#14

Our triggered craves are a necessary part of our healing!
Celebrate each victory!
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June 2nd, 2001, 1:37 pm#15

Thank You Zep, Zack, and Chet congrats.
This is the most difficult part for me and I Want to disconnect from
craves and triggers completely. There's only one left that haunts me
every evening. I've thrown out the parafanalia, cannot go near the
old smoking area, distract myself every night, give myself credit,
praise, whatever, it's been 82 days and the yearning to be back in
that place does not subside. i will forget, it will lessen, i will win this
freedom. Many Thanks for your writings! I sit here instead of there.

John (Gold)

October 28th, 2001, 11:45 pm#16

It's fun to go back and reread the evolution of your own personal understanding. My personal quest is primarily fueled by having spent 30 entire years of feeding my addiction without ever once stopping to ask why. It angers me tremendously to think that I'd allowed regular nicotine feedings to take center stage in my life without knowing why. How could that be? Where was I all those years? Why didn't I care to understand by situation. I beg your indulgence as I attempt to make up for lost time.

I just posted the following trigger summary to Matt under another thread but I wanted to put it here too as an update. Together we're learning! Thanks! YQB John : )

Psychological Recovery
Although no one yet knows all the intricate branches, chemical interactions, or cause and effect relationships associated with the brain's nicotine/dopamine dependency cycle, they do know enough to give us a basic picture. The average smoker absorbs between 1 and 2 milligrams of nicotine with each cigarette. After being absorbed, it's distributed to all blood rich tissue throughout the body, including the brain which may be reached in as little as 8 to 10 seconds.

When a cigarette is lit on fire it releases 4,000 chemical compounds - about 500 as gases and 3,500 as particles. The alkaloid nicotine enters the lung as a particle, where it gets rapidly absorbed by alveoli capillaries and is immediately pumped through the heart and up into the brain where it causes the chemical release of new dopamine and, delivers an almost immediate ahhhhhhh feeling, as the dependent smoker's sagging dopamine output is quickly elevated.

In order for the average nicotine addict (the 20 to 40 cigarette-a-day smoker) to keep their blood nicotine at a comfortable level, they'll require an additional 1 to 2 milligrams of nicotine about every 20 to 40 minutes. It is here that the cycle of physical dependence generates a mild anxiety "urge" that begs to be fed. It is here that the passing of time acts as the primary repeating "trigger" that keeps all nicotine addicts coming back for more.

If a dependent smoker refuses to feed the minor anxiety brought on by their basic "time" trigger, the concentration of nicotine within their blood will drop by 50% within 100 to 120 minutes of their last feeding. The effects of actual physical nicotine withdrawal may start being felt. Although it's important to remember that many quitters will experience very minor physical withdrawal symptoms (or maybe none - the educated cake-walk quit), symptoms can range from difficulty concentrating, insomnia, depression, feelings of anger, irritability, frustration, restlessness, anxiety, a foggy mind, sweating palms, chest pain, rapidly cycling emotions, nausea, irrational thinking, emotional outbursts or even the shakes.

These physical withdrawal symptoms normally peak within 72 hours of quitting - the same time that the quitter's blood becomes 100% nicotine free. Although the mind now resides within a nicotine clean body, it can take ten days to two weeks before the body and mind become fully adjusted to living without the physical presence of nicotine, with resulting elevated dopamine levels.

I do want to mention that our brain's dopamine production circuitry is designed to provide a sense of reward (what I call the ahhhhh feeling) after engaging in activities that ensure the survival of man. Take a deep deep breath into the bottom of each lung and then slowly let it out. Do you feel the ahhhhh at the end? When you eat food that tastes good do you feel the ahhhhh sensation? Do you notice it after a great big hug or after sex? Nicotine (and other drugs) have the ability to take our dopamine circuits hostage.

Aside from physical nicotine withdrawal (the addiction portion of recovery), every quitter must also defeat the psychological element of their dependency upon tobacco - the feeding "habits" portion of quitting. In that it is primarily psychological, the quitter has a tremendous amount of control over both the duration and intensity of psychological recovery. Psychological recovery is characterized by a series of short anxiety crave episodes, each lasting less than three minutes.

These craves are triggered and generated when a quitter experiences an emotion, encounters a cue, visits a location or engages in an activity during which they normally would have smoked. The word "trigger," like the trigger on a gun, identifies the event that cases the onset of the brief anxiety attack for a cigarette and nicotine. Although no crave last for more than a few minutes, the anxiety felt during a crave can make time seem to almost stand still, and cause the quitter to falsely believe that it will not end until satisfied with new nicotine. Looking at a clock can aid a quitter in keeping an honest perspective on time.

During the up to two weeks that physical withdrawal may last, psychological habit trigger reconditioning was being encountered as well. Although the number of such attacks varies from quitter to quitter, the average quitter experiences a peak of six craves on day three, falling off to an average of just one per day by the 10th day.

Although most psychological triggers can be traced back to the body's physical need for new nicotine - every thirty minutes or so - they may include such things as having developed a mental expectation or habit of receiving new nicotine when the phone rings, while talking on the phone, driving a vehicle, working, upon waking, before going to bed, when leaving a store or walking outside, when around other smokers, upon hearing a laugh, while drinking, upon hearing ice cubes hit a glass, surrounding romance or following sex, when alone, before meals, after meals, during celebrations, when sad, during stressful situations, during other specific emotions, or upon visiting specific locations (garage, porch, garden, in-laws, bathroom).

Some quitters notice a small crave spike on day seven of their quit as, for the first time, they find reason to celebrate - an entire week of freedom. Almost all of us smoked as part of celebrating. When a crave hits during a celebration it can be alarming. It can be followed by second crave that is associated with memories of having smoked during any celebration that turned sour - like someone special forgetting our birthday.

In that the subconscious mind is not capable of reasoning on its own, it quickly abandons those triggers that fail to produce the expected result. Once a link is broken, each time the same circumstances are encountered without generating a crave only reinforce the positive reconditioning that has occurred. Although we can feel sucker punched when having a crave after having gone a few days or weeks without one, with each passing week our mind's crave generator loses a bit of its punch.

A trigger may be encountered during a period of extremely "high stress" such as tremendous financial strain, serious family illness, injury, or the death of a close friend or loved one. It's a cold hard fact of life that each of us will experience the death of someone we love. It may benefit us later by preparing our mind now to cope with future triggers situations. One approach is to visualize the entire train of natural events associated with a situation, while considering how you'll cope with each.

The vast majority of our triggers are reconditioned and broken by our subconscious mind after just one encounter with the stored memory pattern that acted as the triggering cue. It may be that the particular triggering memory looks much like a previous trigger, but if you keep a trigger log and look very closely, you'll often see the difference. The fascinating part of psychological withdrawal is that even though the mind and body have physically adjusted to normal dopamine output and cycles, the smoker's "habit" conditioning and vast library of stored memories (thousands of previous ahhhhhh feelings) keep telling them that new nicotine is needed. Listening to this false yet forceful suggestion is a primary reason for relapse.

Any quitter who has previously quit for more than two weeks and then relapsed knows that smoking that first cigarette did NOT give them the expected feeling of relief or fulfillment that they normally received while actively dependent. It does produce a dopamine release, but the release does not match the thousands of stored memories of what was normally felt after inhaling new nicotine particles, as the cycle was broken and the brain was no longer in a cycle of perpetual "need." Nothing was missing so there was nothing to replenish. The psychological suggestion of need was false.

The two week (plus) quitter will experience a mouth full of powerful smoke as it strikes newly healed taste buds, a possible cough as 4,000 chemicals are reintroduced to the lungs, and dizzy as the brain's carbon monoxide levels skyrocket. Although a bit disappointed about the experience not matching their expectations, soon their cycle of dependency will be fully reestablished, and their mind's expectations will be fulfilled. Sadly, that first puff not only revived at least one habit trigger (which must now be faced again) it energized millions of fading memories of smoking and brought them all to the surface.

Although many quitters think that the pace of recovery slows following the first couple of weeks, they'd be well advised to measure their true recovery not in the few triggers still being encountered but in the vast number of situations each day that they would have reached for a nicotine fix but didn't. Focus on the healing!

Breathe deep (and feel the ahhhhh), hug hard (and feel the ahhhhh), live long (and enjoy the ahhhhhs). John : )

knowbutts (Gold)

December 27th, 2001, 12:44 am#17

Thanks John,
I love this trigger post. I think i'll read it a million times. How smart and secure this knowledge makes me feel. What kind of idiot would I be to consider going back to performing under the crack of the nicotine whip. I can't believe I was doing this to MYSELF!



February 11th, 2002, 11:49 am#18

Hey all,
I don't know if this is the right place to reply , but I stumbled onto this message, and it really applied to my situation right now.
I will be 3 weeks quit tomorrow, and my husband has been working away from home since before I quit. Now, he is on his way home, and that is the biggest trigger there is for me....Him. He smokes, and we were total smoking buddies. We would always sit together, smoking, and discuss everything. I want him to quit, but don't know if he will. I know I have no control over him quitting, but I'm not sure how to handle being around him. He will not smoke near me, if I ask, but just looking at him has been a trigger for me. I guess I am afraid of things not being like they have always been........thanks for the post, tho, as it is incouraging that we can break the triggers.

Joanne Gold

February 11th, 2002, 12:14 pm#19

Hi Buffey, I am glad you found this thread helpful. The fact that you are concerned and looking to find your way through your toughest trigger is terrific work, good for you! We have hundreds of members here with smoking partners who have learned to cope just fine. Don't worry about things not being the same, because they will be better. You will learn to be comfortable around your smoking spouse, and for that matter, any smoker. In time, it may be annoying to be around smokers but it will not trigger you to smoke. You don't have to give up being buddies, all you had to give up was your smoking. What a wonderful example you are setting for your husband. Your husband will quit on his own accord, if he is interested you can offer him some information. Otherwise, your example of living comfortable and free without nicotine will be his best influence.
Buffey, write down your reasons for quitting and stay focused on them. Smoking cripples and kills and you certainly deserve better. One puff and it would be all over and back to the full regiment of smoking, addicts never settle for just one. Relapse is serious, there is no excuse for it, none! Some folks don't make it back or ever get that chance.
You are doing so well Buffey, pat yourself on the back for staying so alert in your new journey. Stay in the moment and take it one day at a time. It gets better and better. Not one matter what. : )
3 + years free
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February 11th, 2002, 1:19 pm#20

Hi Joanne,
Thanks for the response. Ya know, sometimes I think it just helps knowing people are out there, ready to listen to me, at all times. At times in the past when I have quit, I didn't have such a good outlet for my worries. It really helps, knowing there is understanding, and support.
Happily nicotine free for:
Two weeks, six days, 13 hours, 2 minutes and 31 seconds. 513 cigarettes not smoked, saving $51.36. Life saved: 1 day, 18 hours, 45 minutes.
and counting!

Lablover (Green)

February 11th, 2002, 9:01 pm#21

I got up feeling really down this morning. I felt like the Nicodemon would not get off my back all weekend. I've had a constant battle since late afternoon on Friday. Telling Mr. Nick to leave me alone, wondering why the weekend was any different than the week. Why, if I have already encountered these particular triggers, why am I fighting them again and again. WHY, WHY, WHY!!! Almost feeling defeated, like it is never going to stop.

Than I found my way back here and found this particular subject and was reminded of my journal, my reasons for quitting, etc. Reminded to think positive instead of feeling defeated. Like you said, Joel, "We are what we think". I have wasted a weekend feeling sorry for myself, feeling like I am going to fail and looking at everything so negatively. But somehow I made it. Something was hiding deep inside and came up and stopped me from walking out that door and going to the convenience store across the street.

I am going to celebrate that "something" today. I am going to honor it and pay respect to it and make sure "it" knows it is always welcome to hang with me. And I am going to MAKE TIME to think about "it" and the positive benefits of "it". I am going to write in my journal, etc.

Thanks for bringing this back up for me to see.

2 Weeks 5 Days 7 Hours 23 Seconds.

John (Gold)

June 25th, 2002, 3:30 am#22

You may get caught off guard by a trigger here or there but don't panic. The exact same tools, plans and exercies that you used to carry you throught those first few days of early withdrawal are all still available. Stay calm yet, like a Scout, "Be Prepared!"

Tatum (Bronze)

June 25th, 2002, 3:40 am#23

Thanks for bringing this one up John...this is one of my favourites, definitely, and one that every newbie should print out to use as needed as time goes by...Good ammuniton, GOOD ammunition!


1 Month 3 Weeks 5 Days Cigarettes not smoked: 1686. Money saved: $210.83.
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June 25th, 2002, 5:10 am#24

Wow...this is a must read for all us newbies...I can't believe it's been up most of the day with only 2 recommends (one of em mine)....Maybe we could keep it up tomorrow too for those who've missed today??? Really informative!

Dos (Dubiously)
3 Weeks 6 Days 6 Hours 11 Minutes


July 11th, 2002, 8:22 am#25

The real thing that has helped me the most in this quit, as of today my last, is the possitive attitude that Joel´s texts brings up. Thanks to that, I had a great time on my first days. How ever some other days were so hard that I don´t think I will take another puff. Ni un pitillo más, ni una chupada, ni una calada. Is the most incredible prejudice that has ever turned up side down in my life: quitting with nervoussness, bad temper, sadness and other related attitude or reaction problems can be overturned to humor, self empowerment, pride, even joy.