Lynai
Lynai

January 22nd, 2001, 10:47 am #11

I'll second leslie on this one, perfect timing. I tend to get jealous of smokers and loose my perspective on the reality of smoking..this is a perfect eye opener. I printed it out (is that okay?) to keep on hand. Thanks. Lynai
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KatieMarie
KatieMarie

January 22nd, 2001, 11:06 am #12

Ahhh! I need to hold onto this thoughT! Funny how my mind plays tricks on me. I have to keep reminding myself with this concept.

Everyone should recognize these stories for what they are, accurate descriptions of the reality of smoking. The joy of smoking was a fantasy. It was the agony of withdrawal that kept you smoking at the end, not the joy of a cigarette. The real joy is when you recognize what smoking was and when you can look back over the day and say you beat it again, not a puff in 24 hours. This is a joy that can be repeated day after day after day for the rest of your life. To keep celebrating the real joy of Freedom, for everyday for the rest of your life, simply remember to never take another puff!

Joel

Thank you Joel.

sincerely,

KatieMarie
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pheonix(SILVER)
pheonix(SILVER)

March 29th, 2001, 12:58 pm #13

Your so right guys, today I was driving to work, and thinking about the power of advertising, and how crazy we are. Who would believe that sane, intelligent human beings would:
1. Put a weed in their mouths, light it and smoke it.
2. Think that it is sexy to do so.
3. Smell like a dirty ashtray.
4. Have wrinkles way before time.
5. Knowingly take the risk of a very slow and painful death.
6. Pay incredible amounts of money for the priviledge of dirtying everything around them.
7. Risk the fact that their children will also do this. and in the case of women triple the risk of miscarriage.
8. Deny all of these facts, and make exscuses to stay smoking.
9. Ignore the fact that you are only addicted to nicotine for 72 hours.
10. Refuse to believe that quitting is easy, you just never take another puff.
No guys I did not break down and smoke I will never take another puff, no matter what. Thanks to you as well as my own efforts.
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marty (gold)
marty (gold)

March 29th, 2001, 7:56 pm #14

Powerful stuff, Zep
What is really frightening is how tiny the gap is between my perception of smoking the day before I quit and the day after, and yet how massive the difference in result between being a smoker and being a non-smoker.

I recognise all my old thinking and all my old excuses in your essay. Now all my thinking is easily crystallised into four simple words - NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

Marty
NOT A PUFF FOR 3 months 3 weeks 5 days : 1899 cigs not smoked : 6 days 14 hours added to my life.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

May 1st, 2001, 6:58 am #15

It's time to be you again!
Do you even remember who you were before nicotine took control?
I think you're going to like you : )
You've let nicotine run things for long enough,
now it's your turn!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 5th, 2001, 4:51 am #16

I AM A DRUG ADDICT !!
I've now read twice this morning where members still feel that they are simply suffering from a "nasty little habit." This may come as a shock to you but YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT! That's right, look in the mirror and you'll see an honest to goodness drug addict looking right back at you! The phrase "nasty little habit" is just more junkie thinking. Such soft fuzzy words are used to self minimize the hard cold reality of being a nicotine addict. It's much easier to tell yourself that you just have a "nasty little habit." The warmth of the phrase is akin to that found in the painless word "slip."

Failing to use turn signals while driving is a "nasty little habit" and so is picking your nose, cracking your knuckles or even losing your temper. But, you will not experience physical withdrawal symptoms if all you are giving up is a "nasty little habit." Physical addictions create powerful habits but they do so by forcing each of us select patterns for the regular delivery of our addictive drug.

Your addiction fathered your habits, not the other way around! You wouldn't have developed a habit of sucking smoke into your lungs while talking on the telephone, or after a meal, unless something inside prior cigarettes had created the need to do so. Within 20 to 30 minutes of our last dose of nicotine, our blood nicotine level would fall to a point where we'd feel the need to replace it. That is NOT a habit!

It didn't not matter what we were doing at the time. If we were on the phone and we had not topped off our nicotine tank in the past 30 minutes, it would happen while on the phone. If your meal lasted for more than 30 minutes then the command for nicotine would come! If you took an hour drive, spent an hour being romantic, an hour in class, an hour drinking or if you'd been awake for an hour, it was time for another fix. Yes, we developed habits but not just for the sake of having habits. If we wanted to avoid full blown nicotine withdrawal, we had no choice!

Even when we do break free from the physical addiction that fathered our habits, we are still forced to deal with thousands of powerful memories of what it was like to crave nicotine. I wish it was just a "nasty little habit." Sadly, I am a nicotine addict!

Zep : (
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Joel
Joel

June 5th, 2001, 5:34 am #17

Zep:

I just brought up a couple of posts reiterating the same concept. But cheer up a little. While its sad that you have to be a recovering addict, it is much sadder to be an actively using addict or an addict in the midst of withdrawal. These two states are down right pitiful.

A recovering addict is actually in a pretty good state considering those alternatives. Sometimes they see the importance of health and Freedom with a much deeper appreciation than a person who never had such a background. Never smokers can take not smoking for granted, that is a luxury they have. Recovering smokers are forced to remember and in a way appreciate and celebrate the fact that they have quit.

Of course I suspect that if everyone here could go backwards in time they would likely have done it differently and never have taken up smoking. But everyone must shoot for the optimal situation they can actually achieve, and that is to stay an ex-smoker. The way to do that is keep your commitment to yourself that you will never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 5th, 2001, 5:59 am #18

I'm a happy ex-smoker Joel : ))) The above post is from many moons ago and I just used it again to bring the Joy of Smoking thread up in that MSN took away my itty bitty happy face icons and I needed something. It doesn't hurt one little bit being a comfortable reformed nicotine addict. There is only one rule that I must follow in order to keep my confort - NTAP !

I had an interesting weekend. My sister was up from Georgia and we spent some time together. She is two years younger than me but started smoking at 13 vs. me starting at 15. Well, anyway, early last year we tried hard to get her to quit and she even posted here twice but last I heard it had ended in relapse and she went into hiding from big (quit smoking) brother.

Well, it seems that Patty has quit smoking for six months now but has remained addicted to the nicotine patch the entire time, and she had it on when she arrived here in Charleston. We had a long long talk and I printed her out lots of nicotine materials. I don't know how this is going to end but when she left last night she'd been patchless for about 40 hours and seemed to be doing great. I've got my fingers crossed and I'll be checking on her as soon as the sun goes down. Sorry for the confusion about the above re-post : )))
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 6th, 2001, 9:46 am #19

Just how far would I be willing to go to protect my quit? Well, let me think for a second! If I was forced to make a decision between smoking one cigarette and eating three day old dog dung out of the neighbors yard, I'd eat the dog dung in a heart beat! It's a pretty sick thought but it's far better than relapse and that 50/50 chance of an early grave! I just don't think I have another quit left in me! Yes, I'd take my chances with the dog! LOL Don't try this at home! LOL
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KiimmyGOLD
KiimmyGOLD

October 13th, 2001, 11:04 pm #20

When I first opened this string up I thought it was new. I was shocked to see it was first started about a year ago. I thought I had read everything at this site. I guess not. Well, anyhow, I just wanted to say I liked it. Maybe it's just me but it seems like these strings pop up at just the right time.

Kim

Seven months, four weeks, one day, 12 hours, 39 minutes and 46 seconds. 4347 cigarettes not smoked, saving $978.02. Life saved: 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 15 minutes.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

November 14th, 2001, 9:05 pm #21

Truth
Attitude
Patience
Understanding
Enjoy your recovery! It's very temporary!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

April 19th, 2002, 10:00 am #22


Nicotine was in control for all of my adult life and a big chunk of my teen years. Becoming the boss again has been very special and the calmness and comfort that arrived was more wonderful than I'd ever imagined! The joy of smoking, slavedom, decay, and a 50/50 chance of dying 15.5 years early? Not this kid! For me, for now, just one day at a comfortable time, it's the Joy of Living!

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 21st, 2002, 10:08 pm #23

The Weekend is Here!
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jess SILVER )
jess SILVER )

July 11th, 2002, 3:19 am #24

Thanks for all the great words to contemplate Zep. "The Joy of Smoking" is perfect!!! Just this morning I looked at a woman smoking in her car with a tiny bit of envy. I managed quickly to remind myself of the realities of smoking, and what it is doing to that poor poor woman. And then your post really reiterated that for me. Thanks!!!

Jessica
Day 8 - no puffs!
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Slycat
Slycat

July 11th, 2002, 3:46 am #25

Hi John:

The people that you described are everyday people. What I mean by that is that we see these people and are around these people everyday. These people are our neighbors, our family, our work friends, etc...Maybe you never noticed it before, but now since you gave up that deadly nicotine habit you are starting to realize what they are doing to themselves. Yes they all have a story to tell, just like we did. The only difference between them and us is that we have admited that we have a problem and that we are addicts, and they don't want to admit it unitl it's too late. We are giving our bodies a second chance. A chance to heal and a chance at a second life. And if we are lucky, maybe the damage we did all those years can be reversed... But they are in denial. They don't think they have a problem and they come up with every excuse in the book not to think about it. They push it aside until like Arthur, the ultimate danger is staring them in the face. Than it is too late. The deadly addiction will claim their life.

Yes, my aunt Jean was one of those every day people. She was a school teacher. The doctor told her it was too late when she quit smoking. He said the damage was already done....

My grandfather was one of those everyday people. He got lung cancer when he was 49 years old.. so young... He was a chain smoker and never realized what he was doing to himself.. I never got to meet him.

My father was one of those every day people. He started smoking in the War. Smoked his whole life more than 40 years when he finally quit. He has quit now for over 20 years. He just turned 78. He has also had a heart attack. What do you think????

My sister is as ordinary as they come. She just turned 48 and she is still smoking. I have tried everything to help her. She has asthma and was diagnosed with the starts of emphaysema and takes steroids when she can't breath... What do you think??? I mean she has cut down to 2 cigarettes a day and she thinks it's great....

So what do you think John... Yes these are ordinary people in our lives everyday.....

Judy

11 weeks+
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

July 11th, 2002, 6:02 am #26

I have a sister with emphysema who may still be feeding from a clean patch, Judy. You're right, they're just regular folks like us who, during their youth, messed with what may be the most captivating substance on earth.

A couple of hours ago I finished a presentation to a group of senior citizens and I watched their jaws drop in disbelief as they heard the dependency statistics for different substances and learned the common thread between each. They just couldn't believe that nicotine, without intoxication or a "high", was really so addictive. No one had ever taken the time to teach them. I think that they each left with a bit different outlook on smoking.

We knew some of the health risks but I doubt that any of us realized that our little peer acceptance experiment, period of rebellion, or attempt to look adult, would be permanent. If we do nothing else, let's each be sure and share the truth with the young people around us! Sorry about your losses Judy. For many here this is an extremely personal issue that reaches far beyond just our own quit.

Thanks Jessica! I used to think the guy puffing away at the light was just being a tease but then I realized that he didn't even know I'd quit : ))) There was no one to impress in his car but his radio and it didn't appear to be listening! It didn't matter where we were or what we were doing, when the time came to feed, we fed!
John (Zep) - The Gold Club
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 22nd, 2002, 8:40 am #27

The thousands of ahhhhh memories inbeded deep within our mind belong to a drug addict who was in need of a fix and got one. Within ten days to two weeks our brain was chemically adjusted to the complete absence of nicotine. It was all psychological after that. There is nothing missing and nothing left to replace. Our ahhhhh memories of filling an empty tank no longer belong to us.

All relapse will bring us is a mouth full of smoke, dizzy, three shades of green and a possible cough but no ahhhhh. We'll be temporarily deprived of our expectation. That sensation is reserved for the active addict in need of more. But it'll be too late. We'll either think we got away with our puff or keep digging within that pack or possibly the next until wel get the ahhhh sensation back but with it the truthful realization that it arose because of a new chemical need. Few of us smoke nicotine because we liked smoking. Once enslaved, we smoked nicotine because we didn't like what happened when we didn't smoke.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

November 13th, 2002, 9:50 pm #28

The Joy of Destroying Your Ability to Breathe?
"When you can't breathe nothing else matters!" American Lung Association
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Slycat
Slycat

November 14th, 2002, 3:12 am #29

Hi John:

Continuing my post from the last time I answered your Thread on 7/10/2002 I must say some things have changed....

I can now add a couple of people to my previous List:

My Uncle Joe died last month of Lung Cancer and
My sisters ex-husband Joe died of a massive heart attack at age 50 a couple of weeks ago.....

Yes, these were ordinary people

Judy

6 months, 2 weeks++++
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

November 26th, 2002, 1:12 am #30

We're each doing our best here, Judy, but sadly the victim's list just keeps growing, and growing and growing. It's horrible. Your sister's former husband was far too young and losing any loved one to tobacco, at any age, is sickening. But then, we're each ordinary people too and we're not out of the woods yet. We gambled with our lives and the risks were tremendous. Some folks feel that we take quitting to seriously around here but I just don't think that's possible : (
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 17th, 2003, 10:15 am #31

Rougly 2,000,000 middle-aged victims each year
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MsArmstrongKIS
MsArmstrongKIS

April 7th, 2003, 3:15 am #32

Nice pic, John, except that in my town a pack of Marlboros is over $5!

Smoking is not a joy and the contentment that it brings to users is based purely on the comfort of staving off withdrawal for yet another hour or so. This morning I was eating my breakfast at the bagel shop I always go to, which is mostly staffed with young college girls like me. I noticed lately that almost all of them smoke.

I sitting doing homework and sipping away at my coffee when I overheard one of them say to the other, "Hey, I woke up this morning and found a whole carton of cigarettes in my closet, left when my ex moved out. How awesome is that?"

"That's happiness," her friend agreed. "Morning coffee and a whole carton of smokes. Lucky you."

Can you believe that I felt a momentary pang of jealousy? I bet you can believe it! It takes a little while to recondition responses to things like that!

But there is no real joy in finding a carton of cigarettes in your closet. Only 200 more fixes to the unceasing cycle of withdrawal. That "deliciously deep" drag isn't joyful, it's desperate. And the end result is disease and death.

One free, found carton in the face of the thousands more she and all nicotine addicts will shell out money and health for throughout her and their addiction. Joy? Joy?

I love this one, by the way.
Alex
I have chosen not to smoke for 1 Month 3 Weeks 2 Days 21 Hours 46 Minutes 47 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 830. Money saved: $207.63.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

April 29th, 2003, 7:56 pm #33

Just a quick reminder to you recovering nicotine addicts who are now beyond that 10 to 14 day chemical adjustment period and toying with a new excuse to relapse - FORGET IT !
The millions of smoking memories that remain in your mind were created by a drug addict while they rode a 20 to 30 minute lifetime cycle of nicotine highs and lows. There is nothing left to relieve. Your blood is clean, your body physically adjusted to the absence of nicotine and your chemical cycle of dependency has been broken.
There is nothing in that white wrapper now except the exact same message you received with your first smoke ever - hot nasty tasting smoke, dizzy and maybe a cough - but no sense of relief - none, as nothing is missing!
You worked hard in journeying home toward "you" again and it would be crime to flush this amazing recovery like a toilet in exchange for addict's promise that can't be kept.
Freedom is primarily an education resource, simply a tool, which cannot be held responsible for being used, nor can it accept any blame for being ignored.
Freedom today is doable and can even be made inspiring if you will only dig deep in your mind and recall the full honest truth of what it was really like living an entire day - day after day - from fix to fix to fix to fix. Was that the "real" you or a chemical bond?
Go the distance! You've earned the right to see who you are. You've earned the right to experience entire days where the "thought" of "wanting" to smoke nicotine never invades your thinking!
Yes, those pesky thoughts are annoying and yes, it would be nice if they were no longer a chore but the remaining thoughts will soon start becoming almost laughable and the alternative is captivity, destruction and a 50% chance of dying an average of 14 to 15 years early.
There is no excuse for killing you and no chemical worthy of dedicating the remainder of your life to. Today we're free! Let the healing continue!
Breathe deep, hug hard, live long, John
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

December 25th, 2005, 9:21 am #34

Living nicotine free
the way to bring yourself
True Comfort & Joy
Simply NTAP!

JoeJFree - from tobacco & nicotine for Eleven Months, Fourteen Days, 10 Hours and 4 Minutes, (348 days)
Not smoked 8710, and saved $1,754.03.

Reclaimed 30 days, 5 hours and 52 minutes to use as I Choose! NTAP!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 7th, 2006, 9:20 am #35

Bait
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