The cost of my first relapse (Have a calculator handy)

Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:08

02 Apr 2004, 00:03 #21

Oooops! I meant to say over 13,000 sickorettes not smoked in the last 21+ months. WOW! Sure does add up!


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02 Apr 2004, 00:17 #22

Freedom's really making me work today! Bill's got us writing lymericks; Joel's got us doing math! See you all in gym class later!

So my first and longest quit was 8 months. I think it was 1984. I'm going to guestimate and pop mid-year 1984 into my quit meter. It is supposed to add 3% annually to adjust for price hikes. Drum roll, please... it calculates to about 19.5 years I would have been quit. I wouldn't have smoked over 100,000 cigarettes (yikes! that means I did!!!!), and would have saved around $30,000. That's Canadian dollars, but yowsers, I could have used that.

All righty. I still don't want to smoke any more. Never Take Another Puff. Nope. Thanks Joel. Eye opening as always!

~ Kay ~
100 Days! Woohoo!

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18 Jul 2004, 05:36 #23

Well, I had quit when I was pregnant for my son for about 4 months. If I hadn't of relapsed my stats would say:

I have chosen not to smoke for 3 Years 4 Weeks 1 Day 9 Hours 2 Minutes. Cigarettes not smoked: 11253. Money saved: C$4,642.18.

What they really say is:

Angie- 6 Months 3 Days 23 Hours 31 Minutes 15 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 1487. Money saved: C$595.14.

That's a difference of 9766 cigarettes, and 4047.04. Woah.

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18 Jul 2004, 06:33 #24

By the age of 27 I was smoking and chewing (among other things). I quit both for a period of six months. I am now 36yrs old and have chewed an average of one can of tobacco per day since.
36yrs - 27yrs = 9yrs
9yrs x 365days per year = 3,285
3,285 X $5.00 per can average = $16,425 wasted on nicotine.
If I add only the cost of the chewing for the other 8yrs (not the smoking) at an average of 3.00 per can the estimated grand total that my addiction has cost me is....
$25,185 and that estimate is very conservative. WOW I NEVER KNEW.
Do you think I could get the tobacco companies to give me a refund??
This information is definately something I am going to chew on for a while. It is a great weapon for me to use in the exercise of never taking another dose of nicotine. Thanks Joel and everyone who participates in Freedom and Whyquit.

Still Nic-Free and Luv'n it for 4 Weeks, 1 Day, 20 hours and 17 minutes. I quit chewing tobacco on 6/17/04, have saved $149.22 while expecting to be on earth 2 Days, 1 hour and 40 minutes longer

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13 Sep 2004, 20:07 #25


I smoked since i was 12 and a bit. First time I tried to quit, I was 17. I'm now 28.

so 11 years, aprox. a pack a day (conservative estimation) times 4 EUR.
thats (11*365)*4 = 16060 EURO

and in reality it's probably more...

that's one expensive borrowed sigarette :o

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13 Sep 2004, 22:16 #26

History of my relapse:

Smoked 8 years, then quit July 8, 1981. Smoke free for six months, until January 1982 when found sample packs of cigarettes in cupboard. Smoked them, which led to buying a pack, then another, then back cartons,...

Next quit: 22 1/2 years later - same day - July 8, 2004.

Cost of my relapse, due to those "free" samples:

Smoking 22 years = 264 months + 6 months = 270 months

Average two cartons (20 packs in 2 cartons, 400 cig. per month) = 400 X 270 = 108,000.00 !!! cig.

Cost = don't know. They're $4/pack now. Let's just say $2.50 per pack = 20 packs X 270 months X $2.50 = $13,500.00 financial cost.

Emotional cost = embarrassment and shame that I went though telling people I had started again.

Psychological cost = tormented every year when my "quit date anniversay" of July 8 came around.

Physical cost = Reynauds syndrome, tendon problems due to decreased circulation, stress fracture in foot due to bone problems, chronic post nasal drip, ugly yellow fingernail, finger, and stained teeth, even my thermometer is stained from the smoking!!...probably a few extra face wrinkles...Thankful I quit in time before those ugly ones above your lip.

Until this year, when I successfully quit again on July 8, 2004!!

AnitaMCK - Free and Healing for Two Months, Five Days, 10 Hours and 58 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 3 Days and 11 Hours, by avoiding the use of 997 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $199.92.

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13 Sep 2004, 23:10 #27

Well let's see, my first quit was January of 1991 so that means I smoked for 13 years & 3 months. Which turns out to be, OH MY GOD, I had to go back & check my numbers and unfortunately they were correct. If I had stayed quit in 1991 I would of saved my body from the torture of 72,795 cigarettes which would of saved my wallet $10,919!!!! I'm shocked, even if I took into consideration the 5 year quits in between (which were not supposed to do but I can't help myself) I would end up with 45,345 cigs smoked & $6,801 up in smoke. I can't believe it, what a waste of money not to mention what it did to me physical & physiologically. I don't even want to think about the withdraw systems I had to go through each time I quit. Plus the weeks it took me to retrain my brain to "enjoy" smoking. Man, I don't EVER want to smoke again!

I'm hugging this quit even tighter! Free for 5 months 1 week & 1 day
Saving myself from smoking 2,385 cigs and adding $477 to my not smoking jar.

Joined: 07 Jan 2009, 19:21

14 Sep 2004, 01:23 #28

I'm sorry to report that my 1st attempt to quit smoking was in the summer of 1982. I lasted about 3 months. . ."Ran into a chum with a bottle of rum. . ." and you know the rest.

In any case, had I remained nicotine free since then I would not have smoked 200,750 Marlboro "reds in box." Allowing for price increases, those cigarettes cost me $30,112. A fine investment.

Now: had I bought shares of Microsoft with my smoke money over the same period, my portfolio would be increased by $867,000 (not including dividends paid in cash).

Think I'll call Charles Schwab. . .


I have been (FINALLY) nicotine free for 12 days. I have saved $86.17 by not smoking 313 cigarettes and have recovered 1 Day, 12 hours and 31 minutes of my life.

Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:58

14 Sep 2004, 01:28 #29

Here it goes...

Smoked 11 years. Quit 8 times (for about two or three weeks each time).
Total cigarettes smoked: 64,240
Total cost about $28,000 CAN

Wow... when I put it that way it does sound extreme!!! Didn't realize it was so many ...

Glad I did stop smoking

Agnes - Free and Healing for One Month, Five Days, 13 Hours and 45 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 2 Days and 5 Hours, by avoiding the use of 640 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $262.92.

Joined: 13 Jan 2009, 23:04

14 Sep 2004, 22:55 #30

Lets see...
My first quit was in February 1991 for 3 weeks... about 13 and a half years ago.
Thats about 4930 days.
I probably smoked 20 a day on average over that time...
Thats 98,600 cigarettes.
Average price of a pack of 20 over this period was probably £3.75 or so...
Thats almost £18,500 spent on cigarettes! (about $33,000 US).


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14 Sep 2004, 23:15 #31

I remember my first relapse very well. I was about 15 years old, already smoking a pack a day and having a fight with my mother made me decide to "quit again another time". Not only did I continue to smoke, I gradually smoked more and many more every year...

That cost me the fine amount of 53,781.27 euro's . (I found a site with the cigarette prices in the last three decades that proved me helpful). If cigarettes had cost back then what they cost today I would have spent more than 90,000 euro's. I'm not sure I want to think about that!

But shouldn't we think about the 15-year old that may relapse today for much the same of a non-reason and has to pay today's prices? I haven't quit for very long but I'm increasingly perplexed that it is allowed that so many of our youngsters are lured into addiction every day. I am walking around and start to notice just how many people smoke and wonder how that can be allowed, so many people being crippled and killed and not a voice raised? I am slowly realising how great the impact my smoking has been on my self-esteem and face in disbelief I have never been my true self since the age of 10. And it cost me *how much?* to be a junkie for the best part of my life?

Vonnebeest - Quit for 1 month and 13 days

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24 Apr 2005, 01:17 #32

I wanted to quit when our first child was born, but failed, I never smoked in the house after that, but...

I could have been quit for 16 Years, 10 Months, 2 Weeks, 4 Days, 14 hours and 7 minutes (6,166 days). I could have saved $26,917.15 by not ingesting 110,998 nicotine delivery devices. I could have saved 1 Year, 2 Weeks, 6 Days, 9 hours and 50 minutes of my life. If My Quit Date had been: 6/4/1988 11:00 PM

Had I never taken that first puff some 32 Years ago, I could have saved $51,138.55 and not ingested 210,880 nicotine delivery devices (thats somewhere around 2,108,800 puffs, talk about conditioning).

I have been quit for 3 Weeks, 6 Days, 13 hours and 41 minutes (27 days). I have saved $120.33 by not ingesting 496 nicotine delivery devices. I have saved 1 Day, 17 hours and 20 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/26/2005 11:00 PM and
I am Free...

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13 Jun 2005, 00:31 #33

I lost a 2 year quit in 1997 and never tried again till this one in 2005. Could have saved close to $7K+ if I had not taken that one puff (actually started with chewing but I didnt realize it at that time). but thats past...i've already saved $500 in the last 4 months. Moid Smoke free for Four months, three days, 3 hours, 59 minutes and 29 seconds. 1477 cigarettes not smoked, saving $531.90. Life saved: 5 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes.

Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:00

13 Jun 2005, 01:12 #34

Could have saved close to $7K+ if I had not taken that one puff (actually started with chewing but I didnt realize it at that time). but thats past...i've already saved $500 in the last 4 months.

Hello Mohammed,

You very well may have saved far more than $500 this past four months. You may have just saved your life.


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13 Jun 2005, 05:36 #35

Free for 11567 days. Working on day 11568

I've not smoked 427965 death sticks, and saved $271,558.43.
I've saved 1485 days, 23 hours and 46 minutes of my life.

Smokes were lot cheaper back then so the money saved would change

Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

13 Jun 2005, 20:44 #36

My first relapse was the classic story of rationalization. I was out of town with some buddies. After a few drinks a cigarette couldn't hurt right? Wrong! the first one I practically spat out. It was disgusting. After only six months of not smoking I had forgotten how bad they tasted. Uggh. But, give me another. And another. And another. By the third one I could easily smoke the whole cigarette and the six months that I had already invested just flew by. $10,220 just flew out of my pocket over the next 8 years and who knows how much life I took off choking down those 58,400 cigarettes. There is only way to guarantee success and it is to never take another puff. Take your quit seriously and guard it with your life.

Smoke free for 2 years 6 mos. and 11 days.

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18 Sep 2005, 20:41 #37

I haven't seen this thread before. Yikes.
My first quit was in college. I suppose that I had already smoked 6 or 7 years.
I would have not smoked 146,000 cigarettes. And saved at least $47,000.


Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:06

19 Mar 2006, 06:49 #38

My first quit was in 1985 and lasted 8 weeks, until I had "just one puff." My current quit has last 9 weeks, and I will never take another puff.

I've saved almost $600 and have NOT smoked over 2,000 cigarettes. What a shock that number is!

Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:02

29 Mar 2006, 04:09 #39

I don't know about my first relapse, had too many to recall. But I can calculate the costs of my last (and final) relapse. I had quit for amost 4 years....smoked for 8 months and it cost me......

-my dignity (for knowing after that first nasty one that I was in trouble)
that one ended up being over 5,000 cigarettes in 8 months
Spent about $875.00 on over 240 packs ONE = ALL - ALWAYS!

my circulation decreased
my heart/chest pain increased
my breath stunk, i stunk
my daughter started smoking (arrggghh)
fear of the unknown damage


Marie 1month 3wks 6days 22hrs over 1,230 not smoked

Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:22

12 Aug 2006, 23:00 #40

Had my 1st attempt at the age of 18 and got smoke free for 3 months.

Miguel - Free and Healing for Five Years, Three Months, Twenty Two Days, 4 Hours and 58 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 134 Days and 17 Hours, by avoiding the use of 38804 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me 5.784,55 €.

Geeezzz NTAP

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11 Oct 2006, 10:08 #41

Interesting I've never replied to this one. I guess I know how frustrating and embarassing the numbers will be. You see, I quit for one week while away at summer basketball camp in the summer of 1972. I'd smoked fairly regularly from age 8 in 1964 until that time. Already I was a seasoned nicotine addict at age 16. I'd smoked tobacco for half of my life at that time. That would include Boy Scout summer camp (quite a few of us smoked as did most of the staff). Same goes for family vacations (my parents both were smokers, as were most of my aunt & uncle pairs whom we tended to visit on vacation).

So in the week in 1972 that Hurricane Agnes hit the East Coast I stopped smoking. My buddy JT and I both quit, more out of necessity than choice.
My lungs healed rapidly. I could run for hours. I remember easily running up a steep hill that had been a struggle to walk earlier in the year. An then I took -just one from my buddy John. How could just one hurt?

Here's what that ONE cost in Today's U.S. Dollars, (disregarding the effects of simple interest and compounding):
34 years, 3 months, 23 days, 1 hour, 56 minutes and 50 seconds Ago (12533 days).
Would have Not needed, wanted or missed 250,662 deadly dose delivery devices, and retained $87,667.72.
Could have spent free 870 days, 8 hours and 28 minutes doing anything other than smoking tobacco cigarettes.

My life surely would have been very different. My children would have been attending college for free.

If you are now free stay free by NTAP. If you are not yet free, there is no better time than now to get started by making a personal commitment to never take another puff and take back control of you life.

JoeJ - 21 months actually free of nicotine and grateful for finally finding freedom.

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11 Oct 2006, 11:52 #42

I don't remember when my first quit attempt was. I do remember the first quit that lasted more than half a day. It was in 1993. I quit for 5 months. It's really quite shocking I lasted that long considering the fact that I was bitter that my husband didn't quit with me the entire 5 months.

The longest quit...the one before this one was about 4 years. I quit right before I got pregnant and stayed quit until my son was around 3 1/2.

A year later I'm on my last quit...26 days in.

If I had realized the importance of NTAP back in 1993 I seriously doubt I would now be in the midst of waiting to find out if the prolonged cough my 4 1/2 year old has is the onset of asthma. (can't even begin to tell you how horrified this thought makes me.) There is no amount of money or life saved that could compare to that, but I also would have saved $7,834.14 and 244 days of my life by not smoking 70313 death sticks.

And I was conservative on that estimate.

What the heck, Joel??? Sadist!!

This is a horrible exercise. What was I thinking participating in it???

On the bright side I have been Free and Healing for Twenty Six Days, 16 Hours and 50 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 2 Days and 18 Hours, by avoiding the use of 801 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $116.28.

Oh, and I totally, really, completely, utterly get it now. NTAP. ONE = ALL. It's drug addiction and I am an addict.


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18 Nov 2006, 21:29 #43

I saw earlier in the week where we had a few new members talk about how they had past quits that were lost. I think a good exercise for them and all of our members would be to think back to the first time they tried to quit and relapsed, and now calculate how long ago that was and to now estimate how many cigarettes were consumed since then and approiximately how much money they have spent on those cigarettes. It will be a real eye opener and clearly show the economic impact of them having not known the importance of sticking to a personal commitment to never take another puff.


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30 Jan 2007, 19:45 #44

I quit smoking the first time when I was pregnant with my son. (thank GOODNESS I did that...WHAT was I thinking starting up again after he was born after 9/10 months???DUH!) Anyway, as I was figuring this out..I went 365 X 13 (years) and ended up with 4745 ..I said to myself...I wouldn't have smoked 4745 cigarettes?Then I WAIT...that's only the amount of DAYS...I can multiply that times 20 for a pack a day... I could NOT belive it...I still can't. My numbers are...94,900 cigarettes I could NOT have smoked and could have saved $18, 031 by today's prices. WOW. M.

I have been quit for 1 Week, 22 hours, 59 minutes and 49 seconds (7 days). I have saved $30.62 by not smoking 159 cigarettes. I have saved 13 hours and 15 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 1/22/2007 6:45 AM

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31 Jan 2007, 01:05 #45

I quit smoking for 22 months when I relapsed. I smoked another 4 years and 7 months before I quit again. using an average cost of 28 dollars a carton smoking 25 cigarettes a day for (an estimated) 1,675 days I figure I threw away $5,862.50. That's a good bit of money...