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6:24 AM - Apr 30, 2005 #51

I LOVE THIS WEB SITE ---
I was doing a serious scrubbing of my kitchen ( the kind you do before company arrives) and got hit with this horrendous crave ---- It was bad --- took a few deep breaths and tried to think WHY now??? It's been a pretty good day . So I remembered some of the things that I had read on triggers and realized that this is the first time that I had done this since I quit. Normally I would have taken a butt break (or 2 or 3.....)
Came to the computer instead and found this discussion .. When I read what Amy wrote, I almost fell off the chair. I really love Freedom and the support system that it provides.. Thanks everyone
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10:37 AM - Jul 11, 2005 #52

"It is important to do these things though to break the triggers. Time doesn't teach you how not to smoke, experience does. The more things you experience and the sooner, the more you recognize that there is life after smoking."

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5:19 AM - Feb 01, 2006 #53

Time doesn't teach you how not to smoke, experience does.
The more things you experience and the sooner, the more you recognize that there is life after smoking.

No matter what triggers occur, all that you need to do to overcome it and learn a new experience as an ex-smoker is to Never Take Another Puff!

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8:05 AM - Apr 12, 2006 #54

I had crazy triggers all day today. I was craving like never before. I couldn't understand what was going on. Then I realized. Today was Opening day for Baseball here. I associate baseball season with smoking. I associate everything sports related with smoking.

Because I was educated about such things, I survived. It was tough today, I can't lie and say it wasn't. It was brutal. But I didn't smoke, and I am so happy.

Two weeks, 9 hours, 6 minutes and 27 seconds. 575 cigarettes not smoked, saving $158.17. Life saved: 1 day, 23 hours, 55 minutes.
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9:08 AM - Aug 11, 2006 #55

From above:
It is important to do these things though to break the triggers.

Time doesn't teach you how not to smoke, experience does.

The more things you experience and the sooner, the more you recognize that there is life after smoking.

Don't let it get you down, acknowledge the crave, recognize you don't want to be a smoker and congratulate yourself for overcoming another trigger.

Never take another puff!
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9:31 PM - Aug 23, 2006 #56

A new study was released today from University of Southern Florida that reported that smokers who quit start suffering symptoms of withdrawal within 30 minutes of their last cigarette. I see it in various news releases as if this is ground breaking news, like no one has ever realized this before. I suspect there are a lot of smokers and ex-smokers looking at this report and thinking to themselves, "this is news?"

The results of this study kind of fits into the original post in this string.

It is kind of interesting because the researchers based their conclusions on their observations of 50 one pack a day smokers. I think that the researchers would find a little bit of a different result if they mixed one pack a day smokers with people who smoked half a pack a day or people who smoke two packs a day or more. Then they would see that the onset of symptoms are a tad more variable than they are reporting here, some shorter some longer.

The research went on to say that withdrawal symptoms peaked within 72 hours and could go on to some degree for a couple of weeks.

Then there was of course the conclusions drawn of how NRT can assist smokers during this time period. Instead of getting the message out that these symptoms are temporary, usually minor and ALWAYS non-life threatening, the study is being used as a platform to push the merits of NRT.

The bottom line is when a person stops smoking his or her body will likely start wanting nicotine. If he or she doesn't give in to the desire or perceived need, the body will adjust and in a relatively short time period the body's demand for nicotine will cease. Then for the person to avoid ever having to face these kind of physical symptoms again will be as simple as sticking to a personal commitment to never take another puff.

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1:51 AM - Nov 19, 2006 #57

Audio lesson addressing this issue: Relearning to do things without cigarettes
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11:46 PM - Dec 17, 2006 #58

Avoiding situation where you used to smoke Dial Up
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John (Gold)
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7:37 PM - Mar 26, 2007 #59


Limbic Activation to Cigarette Smoking Cues Independent of Nicotine Withdrawal:
A Perfusion fMRI Study

Neuropsychopharmacology. March 21, 2007 [Epub ahead of print]

Franklin TR, Wang Z, Wang J, Sciortino N, Harper D, Li Y, Ehrman R, Kampman K, O'brien CP, Detre JA, Childress AR. Department of Psychiatry, University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA, USA.

Exposure to cigarette smoking cues can trigger physiological arousal and desire to smoke. The brain substrates of smoking cue-induced craving (CIC) are beginning to be elucidated; however, it has been difficult to study this state independent of the potential contributions of pharmacological withdrawal from nicotine. Pharmacological withdrawal itself may have substantial effects on brain activation to cues, either by obscuring or enhancing it, and as CIC is not reduced by nicotine replacement strategies, its neuro-anatomical substrates may differ. Thus, characterizing CIC is critical for developing effective interventions.

This study used arterial spin-labeled (ASL) perfusion fMRI, and newly developed and highly appetitive, explicit smoking stimuli, to examine neural activity to cigarette CIC in an original experimental design that strongly minimizes contributions from pharmacological withdrawal. Twenty-one smokers (12 females) completed smoking and nonsmoking cue fMRI sessions. Craving self-reports were collected before and after each session. SPM2 software was employed to analyze data.

Blood flow (perfusion) in a priori-selected regions was greater during exposure to smoking stimuli compared to nonsmoking stimuli (p<0.01; corrected) in ventral striatum, amygdala, orbitofrontal cortex, hippocampus, medial thalamus, and left insula. Perfusion positively correlated with intensity of cigarette CIC in both the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (r(2)=0.54) and posterior cingulate (r(2)=0.53).

This pattern of activation that includes the ventral striatum, a critical reward substrate, and the interconnected amygdala, cingulate and OFC, is consistent with decades of animal research on the neural correlates of conditioned drug reward.

PMID: 17375140 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
Online link to this study abstract
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11:01 PM - Oct 20, 2007 #60

From above:
The kind of trigger talked about here is not just when going out to different places though, home based activities will have the same reaction. Any activity that takes over 20 minutes would eventually get tied into smoking. Mowing the lawn, laundry, using the bathroom, paying bills, talking on the phone, basically, anything that took time very likely became a smoking based activity or had built in smoking breaks associated with them. The first time encountering any of these activities after cessation would be a powerful trigger.

But again, the only way to break these associations is by encountering them the first times, and overcoming them. After a few repeated episodes, not smoking will become the habit for the event. Again, not by time passing but rather by repeated experience. But my closing statement above still applies to them. No matter what triggers occur, all that you need to do to overcome it and learn a new experience as an ex-smoker is to Never Take Another Puff!
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8:59 AM - Jan 05, 2008 #61

From  Restoring volume control :
So what do you do, if you are addicted to smoking cigarettes and you want to stop? When use of an addictive drug like nicotine is stopped, the level of signaling along the many affected pathways will change to levels far from normal.

If the drug is not reintroduced, the altered level of signalling will eventually induce the nerve cells to once again make compensatory changes that restore an appropriate balance of activities within the brain.

Over time, receptor numbers, their sensitivity, and patterns of release of neurotransmitters all revert to normal, once again producing normal levels of signalling along the pathways.

There is no way to avoid the down side. The pleasure pathways will not function at normal levels until the number of receptors on the affected nerve cells have time to readjust.
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8:21 AM - Aug 06, 2008 #62

Your brain is healing! Stay smart and let yourself continue to heal through each trigger experienced. The truth is that you will become experienced at living life comfortably without your drug controlling you. Let time and triggers come and go. It is so worth it.

Sal
Five years, six months, three weeks, three days, 18 hours, 20 minutes and 26 seconds. 48786 cigarettes not smoked, saving $9,757.07. Life saved: 24 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 30 minutes.
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7:44 PM - Sep 27, 2008 #63

Obviously, I'm in no position to disagree with someone of Joel's background on a subject like the cause of cravings (!), but when I read this, I wanted to offer up an alternative theory for why this woman encountered a craving in the ice cream isle.

My thought is that ice cream, particularly chocolate ice cream, causes truckloads of endorphins to be released into the system. Many of us have a strong desire to eat ice cream as we walk down the ice cream isle - a result of marketing and the body's own recollection of the endorphin releases from burying a spoonful of chocolatey goodness into one's mouth.

I would suggest, Joel, that it is possible that your friend wanted to buy and eat ice cream, and that the nicotine craving that she had may have been triggered by this having been her first time addressing the fact that she a) wanted an ice cream endorphin boost, b) couldn't have it until she purchased the ice cream and got it home, and therefore c) had the urge to tie herself over with nicotine until she could get to the ice cream.

As to the increased duration of the craving, I would suggest that it is possible that seeing the ice cream, wanting the ice cream, denying herself the ice cream and not being able to smoke her way through it in the store could cause one craving, and that leaving the store (a common trigger on its own) after having suffered through an ordeal inside the store (less common) may have triggered a second craving, as smoking after an ordeal is pretty habitual.

This is an alternate suggestion - might well be wrong :)

John

P.S. I'm hitting five months without nicotine this weekend thanks to this site, this community, Joel's commitment to helping people and my understanding (finally) that the way to beat this addiction is to know that at any given point in time, I may be called upon without warning to go five minutes without allowing nicotine to enter my body. Never take another puff!
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6:07 AM - Sep 28, 2008 #64

Whether the trigger was a response to wanting ice cream or a response to just not having smoked for the time period in which she was shopping is not really that important. What was important was that a thought for a cigarette was now triggered by some affiliation with the isle. By not taking the cigarette, the person started the process of breaking the specific trigger, whatever it may have been. The next time she faced the same situation the response would probably have been less pronounced and after a few times getting through the isle it probably no longer resulted in any smoking thought.

As it says above:

Sometimes the triggers don't make so much sense, at least on the surface. The trick is just to always have your guard up, being prepared daily for anything. For no matter how long you are off smoking, triggers can and will occur.
Sometimes triggers will be obvious and easy to identify, like running into an old friend who is a chain smoker and you always smoked with them in the past. Sometimes they will be less obvious though, like when it is an old friend who has always been a non-smoker. Whenever you were with them in the past, you too would never smoke because they were around. So why would they make you think of a cigarette?

Well, before you would ever go to see them, you would smoke a few extra cigarettes just to be able to stay with them a little longer. Or more likely, the trigger wouldn't happen when you first see them, but rather as soon as they would leave. More accurately, it would hit as soon as you were out of their line of vision. In the past, that is when you would instantly light up. Even though you never smoked in their presence, you were still a smoker when with them. This association will last until these initial first encounters with them breaking the pattern and mindset that you are a smoker in this particular circumstance.

As more and more time passes, experiences like this become more sporadic. But keep focused daily. When you wake up say today is another day you will not smoke. So if these rare occurrences happen, you are ready. And again at the end of the day congratulate yourself for another victorious day without smoking.

Hang in there and don't let the triggers get you. Make each one just another learning experience. The lesson, no matter what triggers a thought, to beat it, Never Take Another Puff!
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6:24 AM - Oct 31, 2008 #65

From  Restoring volume control :
So what do you do, if you are addicted to smoking cigarettes and you want to stop? When use of an addictive drug like nicotine is stopped, the level of signaling along the many affected pathways will change to levels far from normal.

If the drug is not reintroduced, the altered level of signalling will eventually induce the nerve cells to once again make compensatory changes that restore an appropriate balance of activities within the brain.

Over time, receptor numbers, their sensitivity, and patterns of release of neurotransmitters all revert to normal, once again producing normal levels of signalling along the pathways.

There is no way to avoid the down side. The pleasure pathways will not function at normal levels until the number of receptors on the affected nerve cells have time to readjust.
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